Corvus Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Great, now this has descended into a discussion of powergaming tactics... Well, I guess its a time to add another item to my list of pathfinder rules glitches, since you can get listed benefits from getting your animal companion to 3 int when getting it to 3 int makes it no longer able to be an animal companion(in addition to a whole complicated set of issues in running the barely magical beast). My character is a Tengu Rogue who knows way too many languages Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Wyvren are you serious? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Great, now this has descended into a discussion of powergaming tactics... Well, I guess its a time to add another item to my list of pathfinder rules glitches, since you can get listed benefits from getting your animal companion to 3 int when getting it to 3 int makes it no longer able to be an animal companion(in addition to a whole complicated set of issues in running the barely magical beast). My character is a Tengu Rogue who knows way too many languages Where does it say that? If I can't get proficiency, it'll still have +8 to attack, so still be fine. Do creatures usually get simple weapon profiency? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 When a creature hits Int 3, it becomes a magical beast which causes all sorts of insane things to happen in the rules, such as it becomes an NPC as a result of becoming sentient and what not, so you end up having to use diplomacy and such in order to get it to do things it doesn't want, and you have to make it happy so it doesn't just leave. Creatures only have proficency with their natural weapons or the weapons they are listed with in the bestiary Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Okay, Bobo is now an intelligence 2 animal companion. It doesn't have proficiency with weapons, but it can still use them! Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Wait so I could use diplomacy to make Bobo not attack me, and attack Retech? Cause I have a bunch of levels in handle animal (Could that be used to soothe the beast if she puts him at to 2 int?) It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Wait so I could use diplomacy to make Bobo not attack me, and attack Retech? Bobo is now intelligence 2 Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Duel you again once you sort bobo out? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Don't you take a pretty hefty negative modifier if you aren't proficient with weapons. Also, for gods sake stop dueling. It encourages you to powergame so that you can wave your.... character at other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 -4 And it means we wont do it in the actual game, and it also means we figure out if our characters are breaking the rules. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Oh, no, I was wondering if I had any extra GP. Was going to have my character own a Cold Iron Sai or something. Usefull if we do need it. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 :rolleyes: I might make my wolf sentient, just so there's someone in the party to talk to. It would also free up Handle Animal. :) Either way, I think I'll just keep what I have. I don't need him to be powerful, just to be there for me. *sniffle* 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Being intelligent =/= able to talk. Something about voiceboxes... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Oh, and I'd really like to duel someone. I don't care about getting that much more powerful, Natural Attacks are a bit less than optimized anyways, I just want to see Dyeedi in action. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 77.101.120.20 no password http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Also: /join #stealthspeak http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Quick question; can I use the Improved Unarmed Strikes tree with claws? It seems to be essentially the only place where the more player-used Unarmed Strike can be adapted to Natural Weapons, which have less depth. Also, I reeeeally like the Changeling, but could I pooooossibly switch out the Wisdom bonus for Dexterity? :-# It's that, or otherwise ruin the character somehow to improve survivability. Also, I might be multiclassing in Monk. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 So Nex, you basically want to keep the flavor of the changeling without all the mechanics? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I suppose just a little. It's perfect except for kinda gimping me in terms of ability scores. Actually... With a bit of modification and equal distribution between Monk and Ranger, this is much better... 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm playing a warforged. It has a net -2, and a +2 to con, which is a useless stat to me. I think you'll live with having a +2 to wisdom instead of dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm sure you can make it work. Perhaps it doesn't allow a specific kind of idea, but a little of tweaking can always make it work. A small kobold with -4 to str is never going to be a melee heavy hitter, for example. You know that the monk bonuses to AC only apply when you're unarmored, right? ------- Hey guys, what should our party's flag be? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Quick question; can I use the Improved Unarmed Strikes tree with claws? It seems to be essentially the only place where the more player-used Unarmed Strike can be adapted to Natural Weapons, which have less depth. Also, I reeeeally like the Changeling, but could I pooooossibly switch out the Wisdom bonus for Dexterity? :-# It's that, or otherwise ruin the character somehow to improve survivability. Also, I might be multiclassing in Monk. Some of the feats can be used, if their effects do not require you to use Unarmed Strike, as you would not get any Unarmed Strike bonuses. (you would still need to take improved unarmed strike unless Grim allowed you to skip it)I Very much doubt you will get Grim to let you move fixed stat bonuses around, as restricted stat bonuses is an expense you pay for taking unusual races as opposed to the core races and 2 dexterity points is not going to get your character killed. For once can we please bring down the degree to which quite a few of you are being such excessive Powergamers, as this is getting to be extremely annoying. (I really dont want to have to bring out my skill at Theoretical and practical optimization [i dont really like doing so when there are other options, and I am a follower of the The Ten Commandments of Practical Optimization when I do], and I Really dont want Grim to have to resort to 'Rock falls, Everyone dies') Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Got it. :thumbup: What would people say that the symbol of the tavern is? And could you explain said commandments of practical optimization? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Also on another note what it this that I have been hearing about someone having the horrible idea of giving an animal companion an intelligent weapon? Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Not only that, Wyvren, the weapon is Neutral and only has Empathy. And yeah, my character isn't perfect and doesn't have the best stuff as is, but it just feels right now. I'm going to stick with it! :D Just a few mods here and there to adjust it... Almost there! 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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