RoW Question.

[SpikeStr1ke]

Ok well here's my question, i was wondering if anyone knew the approximate percent that the ring of wealth activates? is it based upon the monster your fighting? or is it just absolutely random? I havent had a lot of time to test it myself as i've been fairly busy but i used it at barrows and it activated on every chest (as i thought it would) but i was wondering on just general monster killing how much of a chance is there for it to activate. Also is it still the same as far as only working on general items not items like whips,visage,dark bow, ect.?

[brad1431]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

[SpikeStr1ke]

I mainly only use Slayer and Kura rings depending on where i am, i cant afford zerker ring at the moment and i could but a warrior ring but at 97 attack it seems like a useless waste of a bankspot because i probably would never use it.

[Nomrombom]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

Attaway to take a good sample size and do even the slightest amount of research.

[CharlieBrown]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

The ring of wealth INCREASES your likelyhood of getting a drop.

Just because it activated, DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD GET A DROP.

Learn the difference.

 

To answer the question, i am not aware of any extensive RoW studies ongoing and/or any which have been completed.

[Th e Doctor]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

Attaway to take a good sample size and do even the slightest amount of research.

 

Many sample sizes have been taken already so that we don't have to waste our time to figure out that the RoW is never worth using over a berserker ring with the exception of if you think that its fun to do less damage over a given period of time in exchange for drops that arent worth a significant amount of money.

[CharlieBrown]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

Attaway to take a good sample size and do even the slightest amount of research.

 

Many sample sizes have been taken already so that we don't have to waste our time to figure out that the RoW is never worth using over a berserker ring with the exception of if you think that its fun to do less damage over a given period of time in exchange for drops that arent worth a significant amount of money.

 

Show proof that the re-vamped RoW does not significantly up your chance of recieving a "rare" drop.

[SpikeStr1ke]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

Attaway to take a good sample size and do even the slightest amount of research.

 

Many sample sizes have been taken already so that we don't have to waste our time to figure out that the RoW is never worth using over a berserker ring with the exception of if you think that its fun to do less damage over a given period of time in exchange for drops that arent worth a significant amount of money.

 

But for someone who cant afford a zerker ring and only uses slayer/kura ring would the row be useful?

[Kimberly]

Show proof that the re-vamped RoW does not significantly up your chance of recieving a "rare" drop.

 

Renderer123 I think is actually doing a study to see if the RoW triples your chances for a dchain, if that's what you're asking. From that research maybe compared to another monster with a rare drop of equal sample size maybe you can get the proof you want. But as far as I know though, it doesn't exist.

[CharlieBrown]

Show proof that the re-vamped RoW does not significantly up your chance of recieving a "rare" drop.

 

Renderer123 I think is actually doing a study to see if the RoW triples your chances for a dchain, if that's what you're asking. From that research maybe compared to another monster with a rare drop of equal sample size maybe you can get the proof you want. But as far as I know though, it doesn't exist.

 

Yeah, i don't think any extensive studies exist as of now. I would be interested in seeing them when/if they are published, however.

[Th e Doctor]

for me, it activated and the drop was worthless, so I went back to using my zerker ring instead.

 

 

Attaway to take a good sample size and do even the slightest amount of research.

 

Many sample sizes have been taken already so that we don't have to waste our time to figure out that the RoW is never worth using over a berserker ring with the exception of if you think that its fun to do less damage over a given period of time in exchange for drops that arent worth a significant amount of money.

 

But for someone who cant afford a zerker ring and only uses slayer/kura ring would the row be useful?

 

Nope. Zerker rings are what now, 4.5 mil? Herb farming is average 100 k per run (350 k with snaps) and can be done at least 6 times a day for 600 k (2.1 mil). Dailies are around 400 k- 1 mil a day. MTK is at least 200 k a day. Add in any other money maker and youre only like 2 hours from it.

[Stallone]

Hi.

 

For certain slayer tasks where you can get a unique item for a specific monster (ie Focus sight from Desert Strykewyrms) the ROW shines every kill. However, i do not know if this was intended or if it is a glitch that jagex is going to fix.

 

When it comes to monster killing, it does have an effect on the drops but again it is on a small scale. You are NEVER :shame: guarenteed a good drop if your ROW shines.

 

For those people who do Barrows or monster killing, try this. Use your Ferocious/Zerker/or any other ring for killing the Barrows bro's/monster, and then switch to the ROW when you are looking the chest at barrows, or just before you kill a monster. This way you get the positive effects of both rings.

 

:thumbsup:

[Th e Doctor]

Hi.

 

For certain slayer tasks where you can get a unique item for a specific monster (ie Focus sight from Desert Strykewyrms) the ROW shines every kill. However, i do not know if this was intended or if it is a glitch that jagex is going to fix.

 

When it comes to monster killing, it does have an effect on the drops but again it is on a small scale. You are NEVER :shame: guarenteed a good drop if your ROW shines.

 

For those people who do Barrows or monster killing, try this. Use your Ferocious/Zerker/or any other ring for killing the Barrows bro's/monster, and then switch to the ROW when you are looking the chest at barrows, or just before you kill a monster. This way you get the positive effects of both rings.

 

:thumbsup:

 

Using the ring for opening barrows chests/TT's may be the only real use for this ring.

[Riqualyn]

Using the ring for opening barrows chests/TT's may be the only real use for this ring.

 

Bereserker ring (i) is maxed about a 22-23 damage increase, which works out to just below 5% if you hit the max possible. In reality it is less since you don't always hit max, and for mobs you can easily hit it does significantly less if it doesn't actually decrease the hits to kill the monster.

 

For someone who kills 1,000 mobs with a RoW, you could kill 1,050 with berserker (i). Let's say that was someone killing green dragons to collect bones and make some money. The berserker ring wearer has come out with an extra ~280k from those 50 extra kills

 

The extra drop table rate is where the difference could be. The average minimum drop for loot on that table, is currently ~485k. Depending on how much of an increase RoW actually gives, it could definitely be worth using.

[transcript80]

I use it when I slay Bork.

 

Guaranteed better drops!

 

For the rest, when I can use Kuradals ring, i use it, else RoW.

 

I'm not an effecianado....

[Quyneax]

Using the ring for opening barrows chests/TT's may be the only real use for this ring.

 

Bereserker ring (i) is maxed about a 22-23 damage increase, which works out to just below 5% if you hit the max possible. In reality it is less since you don't always hit max, and for mobs you can easily hit it does significantly less if it doesn't actually decrease the hits to kill the monster.

 

For someone who kills 1,000 mobs with a RoW, you could kill 1,050 with berserker (i). Let's say that was someone killing green dragons to collect bones and make some money. The berserker ring wearer has come out with an extra ~280k from those 50 extra kills

 

The extra drop table rate is where the difference could be. The average minimum drop for loot on that table, is currently ~485k. Depending on how much of an increase RoW actually gives, it could definitely be worth using.

Berserker (i) maxes at 8/64 * effective strength level * 1.1 damage increase, or up to 28. On task it is up to 25. Which is around 4% more dps (max hit of 650).

 

You are right in that in reality it is slightly less but it is not because you don't always hit your max, it is because you don't always need your max, because your opponent is at low health already.

[Soma2035]

Hi.

 

For certain slayer tasks where you can get a unique item for a specific monster (ie Focus sight from Desert Strykewyrms) the ROW shines every kill. However, i do not know if this was intended or if it is a glitch that jagex is going to fix.

 

When it comes to monster killing, it does have an effect on the drops but again it is on a small scale. You are NEVER :shame: guarenteed a good drop if your ROW shines.

 

For those people who do Barrows or monster killing, try this. Use your Ferocious/Zerker/or any other ring for killing the Barrows bro's/monster, and then switch to the ROW when you are looking the chest at barrows, or just before you kill a monster. This way you get the positive effects of both rings.

 

:thumbsup:

 

This is not a bug. The Ring of wealth shines when it has affected the table from which your drop came from. It is not shining because it thinks the drop you got is good.

 

Let's say, hypothetically, a Steel Dragon has the following drop table:

 

Runite limbs (20%)

Rune javelins (20%)

Runite bolts (20%)

Blood runes (20%)

Dragon platelegs (5%)

Dragon plateskirt (5%)

Draconic visage (5%)

Rare (5%)

 

Whenever you kill a steel dragon, you get one of the drops. If the game decides it's a rare drop, it goes to the rare drop table instead. Let's assume it looks something like:

 

Uncut sapphire (30%)

Uncut emerald (20%)

Uncut ruby (10%)

Uncut diamond (5%)

Half of a key (5%)

Dragon spear (5%)

Nothing (25%)

 

The Ring of wealth modifies this table. The exact % isn't known obviously, but the effect was described as filling in the "nothing" slots. For instance, maybe Nothing becomes 5%, and each gem has a drop rate 5 percentage points higher.

 

Your Ring of wealth will then shine whenever the drop you receive is from a modified table. In the case of Steel dragons, it will shine every time you get an uncut gem or a half key. However, it will not shine when you get Dragon platelegs, because Dragon platelegs are on the normal table, which in this case, isn't affected.

 

For some monsters, the Ring of wealth will shine every kill. This is because for that monster specifically, the Ring of wealth affects the normal drop table. For instance, a Divine sigil is on the Corporeal beast's normal drop table (say, 0.05% drop rate). While wearing the ring of wealth, the table is adjusted and this rate becomes, say, 0.055% instead. Of course this would impact other drops on the table (albeit slightly). Maybe this reduces the likelihood of Adamant arrows from 10% to 9.95%. In any case, every time you kill the Corporeal beast now, the table from which your drop comes is modified by the Ring, and therefore it will shine.

 

Spirit shield sigils are the only confirmed items to be influenced, to my knowledge, but for slayer monsters with specialized drops and a lot of bosses (God wars bosses, Dagannoth kings, Nex, etc), it also shines every time. This implies that items like Abyssal whip, Dragon boots, Granite maul, Dragon hatchet, Torva platebody, etc, have been influenced.

 

In answer to the TC's questions, there is no "chance" for the Ring of wealth to activate. The ring will always take effect, the question is whether that drop table is being used or not. We do not know the amount by which drop rates are improved by, either.

[pulli23]

During special slayer monsters (which require slayer levels) it shines every kill, and it seems to "double" the amount of slayer-equipment (metal boots, granite mauls etc) I get.

 

Putted double between quotes since it's untested, but there was a very, very noticeable difference now between with & without (pre-updates), doubling is a bit too much I think, but 1.5 times as many slayer items seems even on the low side.

 

This is tested over a 20-ish tasks, so again not really accurate but it shows it does have an effect.

[Kimberly]

Whether or not the ring had an effect though was never the question though, it's whether or not it's wise to slow down killing times for minimal increase in drop wealth :P The general consensus still seems to be that it isn't, because there is no research to prove otherwise (yet).