silver24-7 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 MAKE THESE ITEMS UNTRADEABLE! Why? No-one has yet posted one single reason as to why they want these items untradeable other than their own irrational fear of someone else getting something that they might want. omg u totally didnt read the post did u ? as u can read even the jagex made book says why it should be untradeable. I'm Finally 99 mage ^^ (and cooking...) :PSilver24-7 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 have you read all the posts? people have made very valiable points (which i agree with) as to why these items should be untradeable. People spend hours and hours training here to save up pazzaz points and get the robes. other people just spend there money and buy them. it just doesnt seem fair. jagex has it all backwards...the holiday items should have been tradeable (they are gone after a few days and then they work up value), the infinity robes should not be tradable (they are here to stay, all the value will do is decrease until everyone has them.) all you rich people need to stop buying your items and maybe acually work for them! so i back making them untradeable totally So "it doesn't seem fair" is what you'd call a valid argument then? I get more logical and rational arguments from my three-year-old. Did it not once occur to you that the people who save up the money to buy something have actually earned it? Just because they click on this pixel rather than that pixel doesn't mean they haven't put the same sort of effort into the game. Let me ask you, did you build your computer, or just pay money for it? Why should you be allowed to just go out and buy a computer instead of having to build one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_dark_jedi Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 everything you've said is valid except for the part i've emboldened (i love that word). the high level people have already worked plenty to get the skills that they have, probably much harder than anyone will have to now, since they had to endure endless boring hours of alcing or teleporting (unless they autoed), while this area is comparable to what the agility area in brimhaven did for agility. it's definitely a much more entertaining way to level up magic (i've already gotten from 91 to 92 there already without really paying attention, woot). but what's unfair is if someone barely has the magic level to wear the things and has bought them for some enormous sum of money without earning it. The part that you had emboldened (hmmm i kinda like that word too =) ) says "all you RICH people" not HIGH LVL. there are plenty of low lvls out there with $$$. that statement was more directed at them than the high lvls. BUT if there are high lvls out there looking for infinity robes, they have spent countless hours training mage already...whats a few more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 omg u totally didnt read the post did u ? That's right, I have nothing better to do than post in threads I haven't read. Uncanny really how I managed to be on topic without reading it. as u can read even the jagex made book says why it should be untradeable. The book doesn't say that at all. You're construing something that isn't there. I'm not sure what school of logic you adhere to to get "should be untradeable" out of "By earning points for performing the tasks in the four areas, the mage proves their adeptness at the different skill groups and hence can claim items to display their skill." but I think if anyone needs to read, it might be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiddendeath9 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 If a person spends all that time, getting the points, he/she should be able to sell it if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffman Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 have you read all the posts? people have made very valiable points (which i agree with) as to why these items should be untradeable. People spend hours and hours training here to save up pazzaz points and get the robes. other people just spend there money and buy them. it just doesnt seem fair. jagex has it all backwards...the holiday items should have been tradeable (they are gone after a few days and then they work up value), the infinity robes should not be tradable (they are here to stay, all the value will do is decrease until everyone has them.) all you rich people need to stop buying your items and maybe acually work for them! so i back making them untradeable totally So "it doesn't seem fair" is what you'd call a valid argument then? I get more logical and rational arguments from my three-year-old. Did it not once occur to you that the people who save up the money to buy something have actually earned it? Just because they click on this pixel rather than that pixel doesn't mean they haven't put the same sort of effort into the game. Let me ask you, did you build your computer, or just pay money for it? Why should you be allowed to just go out and buy a computer instead of having to build one? har har har, you owned him with a textile beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Mage Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I do not think that they should be untradable (keep em tradeable). Multiple people have been comparing these to cw, well you can really do that. The two are completely different. Castle wars does not give you good armor for one its just a symbol, the new mage robes will actually give bonuses. If you are to compare the points you get from the new mage area to anythign it would be to tokul (can never spell that right). They are very much the same are they not? you do minigames to earn points/tokul and then you trade them in for armor and weapons. However i think it is a good idea to have maby 1 or 2 items untradeable kind of like the fire-cape. But i feel that they should make 2 aditional things for this like a stronger mage amulet or somethign of the like, and that you do not get it for trading in points, but instead for a cumunative amount of like 100k maby? I dont understand why no one realy complained about the obby and onyx stuff but are about this. There isnt much difference except from melee to magic. They might even be planning something for rangers. High level people and people that don't get to play much would never get them because they dont have the time or arnt so excited about a little more exp? I sounds to me that most of you are just jelous and don't want to see rich players getting them and you working hard. The rich people have earned their money and earned the right to buy the items. Don't let jealosy and selfishness over the items cause them to become the hardest items to obtain in the game. The mage area was made as a new way to raise magic, the wands, book, robes, etc. were a bonus. You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I do not think that they should be untradable (keep em tradeable). Multiple people have been comparing these to cw, well you can really do that. The two are completely different. Castle wars does not give you good armor for one its just a symbol, the new mage robes will actually give bonuses. If you are to compare the points you get from the new mage area to anythign it would be to tokul (can never spell that right). They are very much the same are they not? you do minigames to earn points/tokul and then you trade them in for armor and weapons. However i think it is a good idea to have maby 1 or 2 items untradeable kind of like the fire-cape. But i feel that they should make 2 aditional things for this like a stronger mage amulet or somethign of the like, and that you do not get it for trading in points, but instead for a cumunative amount of like 100k maby? I dont understand why no one realy complained about the obby and onyx stuff but are about this. There isnt much difference except from melee to magic. They might even be planning something for rangers. High level people and people that don't get to play much would never get them because they dont have the time or arnt so excited about a little more exp? I sounds to me that most of you are just jelous and don't want to see rich players getting them and you working hard. The rich people have earned their money and earned the right to buy the items. Don't let jealosy and selfishness over the items cause them to become the hardest items to obtain in the game. The mage area was made as a new way to raise magic, the wands, book, robes, etc. were a bonus. A lot of these rich players "earned" there money by scamming friends, using key loggers, macroing, picking up party hats off the ground 3 years ago, bug abused in the duel arena ect. Hows that earning it, as for the new mage items i could care less, i have mine, and i dont have to sell it so it doesnt affect me either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_dark_jedi Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 have you read all the posts? people have made very valiable points (which i agree with) as to why these items should be untradeable. People spend hours and hours training here to save up pazzaz points and get the robes. other people just spend there money and buy them. it just doesnt seem fair. jagex has it all backwards...the holiday items should have been tradeable (they are gone after a few days and then they work up value), the infinity robes should not be tradable (they are here to stay, all the value will do is decrease until everyone has them.) all you rich people need to stop buying your items and maybe acually work for them! so i back making them untradeable totally So "it doesn't seem fair" is what you'd call a valid argument then? I get more logical and rational arguments from my three-year-old. Did it not once occur to you that the people who save up the money to buy something have actually earned it? Just because they click on this pixel rather than that pixel doesn't mean they haven't put the same sort of effort into the game. Let me ask you, did you build your computer, or just pay money for it? Why should you be allowed to just go out and buy a computer instead of having to build one? lmao! funny you should use that example becuase, believe me or not, i actually DID build my computer! i bought all the alienware parts and put it together myself. which, in turn, would be like buying runes and training mage to get your own robes..... pwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzzamorak_ Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Maybe Jagex should have made them untradeable in the first place, but they didn't. Those who want Jagex to make them untradeable now should realize that this can't be done. The reason is simple: dueling. I'm sure some players allready have some infinity items on noob accounts, accounts they could make 50 mage and 25 def just to be able to wear the infinity robes. If the items suddenly turn untradeable, these accounts would have a really unfair advantage in dueling, since people no longer would be able to get full inifinity on a low level (getting the points for full infinity takes you well over 50 mage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwtKittN Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I think they should of have not been made tradable but oh well :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_bandyt Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 i agree that it shouldnt be tradeable. just like castlewars armor or ghostly robes, or the fire cape, or the many other quest items and minigame items, it should not be tradeable because it would be a sign that the wear had the skill and patience to get the item themselves, and earned it a very good example is the fire cape. the only way to get one is to complete the fight caves minigame. very few people can do it, and nobody can own one of those capes unless they got it themselves. otherwise people would buy it for mega millions i guess jagex is thinking that there will be a steady flow of these items coming into the game, like barrows items. so i guess for the next few weeks, whoever gets the robes first might make a fat paycheck, but after a while the price will stabalize down as more robes hit the market in a sense, high level mages who have nothing to gain from mage training would be interested in paying cash to get the robes, while mid-levels who need the training could use the cash to buy more runes and visit the arena again. most likely this will mean that the price of laws, nats, and cosmics will [bleep]e up soon after these robes get on the market Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creaphis Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Making these items untradable would hurt every type of player, not just rich people who would rather buy the items than get points to buy them. Suppose you want to use this new arena to train magic. You don't have a lot of money, but you get enough runes to get a good start on your goal, through making money and runecrafting. You train and train, gain many levels, and finally you have enough points for a piece of infinity. Here's your chance to sell robes so you can buy way more runes! Oh wait, now you can't. See, the arena is meant for magic training, and being able to sell these items helps people train magic. This arena is not meant as just an elaborate way to get these items, the items are the bonus and not the goal. Players who are rich have earned it, it doesn't matter if they're low level or not. People who have scammed for their wealth and are still around are a very small minority. Getting a money making skill like 85 slayer takes at least as much time as earning the points to buy everything in that shop. Thank goodness Jagex never listens to these rants. Democracy wouldn't work in Runescape. Besides, if you asked random Runescapers instead of this biased sample, tradability would most likely win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 if they would be untradeable NOONE would ever do those [cabbage] minigames....you link it to cw- but in cw you get ADDY- you get something just worthless- so have you seen many ppl with the armor? no...jagex doesnt want this happening to this minigame-so theres no other choice...otherwise the arena would be like the boardgames arena First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_bandyt Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 if they would be untradeable NOONE would ever do those cabbage minigames....you link it to cw- but in cw you get ADDY- you get something just worthless- so have you seen many ppl with the armor? no...jagex doesnt want this happening to this minigame-so theres no other choice...otherwise the arena would be like the boardgames arena wrong. the fire cape is the best cape in the game, and untradeable, yet everyday dozens of the games best players visit the fight caves to see if they can kill the 702 and get one. the ring of charos is untradeable, but because its so useful lots of people do the necessary quests to get it. same thing for gauntlets from family crest. what about ghostly robes. very cool look, non-tradeable, yet the more you see it in game the more people want to get it just because something is untradeable doesnt mean t isnt cool or that nobody will want it. i for one will gladly work for my robes even if they were untradeable. Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headnazgul Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I live for untradable rares, they're the best kind in my opinion because only dedicated players can get them. I agree though, it's too late to change now. But they should've been untradable from the start. Due to the cost and time taken to collect this set however, I fear that there won't be a continuous flow of these items into rs. The top piece of the set is already dropping fast. It's barely better than mystic. Most people will just buy ahrims instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 if they would be untradeable NOONE would ever do those cabbage minigames....you link it to cw- but in cw you get ADDY- you get something just worthless- so have you seen many ppl with the armor? no...jagex doesnt want this happening to this minigame-so theres no other choice...otherwise the arena would be like the boardgames arena wrong. the fire cape is the best cape in the game, and untradeable, yet everyday dozens of the games best players visit the fight caves to see if they can kill the 702 and get one. the ring of charos is untradeable, but because its so useful lots of people do the necessary quests to get it. same thing for gauntlets from family crest. what about ghostly robes. very cool look, non-tradeable, yet the more you see it in game the more people want to get it just because something is untradeable doesnt mean t isnt cool or that nobody will want it. i for one will gladly work for my robes even if they were untradeable. but fire cape is an USELESS item for pking- USELESS- also its so much better than any other cape- but whywould you work hard for getting items that suck?90% less ppl would do the mage things if the rewards were changed untradeable- jagex doesnt want that- but you guys are too dumb to realize... ring of charos- useless pice of junk....ghostly robes- they look cool? i laugh at ppl who wear them because they look gai and cheap...gaunts are a quest item- and you can get as many as you want them for free so makeing them tradeable would be a joke....you can work for your robes- do so- ill just get 300k cash and buy a full mystic and laugh at your efforts. you guys are sayting those things because your poor and cheap...and you HAVE TO work hard to get em- and cry when others get em with less work.....dont you guys understand that all things mussnt be untradeable- if you have moeny you have the privileges....just like in rl- life isnt fair First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 MAKE THESE ITEMS UNTRADEABLE! Why? No-one has yet posted one single reason as to why they want these items untradeable other than their own irrational fear of someone else getting something that they might want. have you read all the posts? people have made very valiable points (which i agree with) as to why these items should be untradeable. People spend hours and hours training here to save up pazzaz points and get the robes. other people just spend there money and buy them. it just doesnt seem fair. jagex has it all backwards...the holiday items should have been tradeable (they are gone after a few days and then they work up value), the infinity robes should not be tradable (they are here to stay, all the value will do is decrease until everyone has them.) all you rich people need to stop buying your items and maybe acually work for them! so i back making them untradeable totally Other people got their money from the tree and bought everything? do you realise you have to work for money? dont? im not suprised- i dont understand you newbs- you dont want to make barrows armors untradeable and want these items to be untradeable??? whats wrong with you people I do not think that they should be untradable (keep em tradeable). Multiple people have been comparing these to cw, well you can really do that. The two are completely different. Castle wars does not give you good armor for one its just a symbol, the new mage robes will actually give bonuses. If you are to compare the points you get from the new mage area to anythign it would be to tokul (can never spell that right). They are very much the same are they not? you do minigames to earn points/tokul and then you trade them in for armor and weapons. However i think it is a good idea to have maby 1 or 2 items untradeable kind of like the fire-cape. But i feel that they should make 2 aditional things for this like a stronger mage amulet or somethign of the like, and that you do not get it for trading in points, but instead for a cumunative amount of like 100k maby? I dont understand why no one realy complained about the obby and onyx stuff but are about this. There isnt much difference except from melee to magic. They might even be planning something for rangers. High level people and people that don't get to play much would never get them because they dont have the time or arnt so excited about a little more exp? I sounds to me that most of you are just jelous and don't want to see rich players getting them and you working hard. The rich people have earned their money and earned the right to buy the items. Don't let jealosy and selfishness over the items cause them to become the hardest items to obtain in the game. The mage area was made as a new way to raise magic, the wands, book, robes, etc. were a bonus. A lot of these rich players "earned" there money by scamming friends, using key loggers, macroing, picking up party hats off the ground 3 years ago, bug abused in the duel arena ect. Hows that earning it, as for the new mage items i could care less, i have mine, and i dont have to sell it so it doesnt affect me either way. You lost your mind? scammers dont play the game for playing it- they play it to sell the cash in rl- why would they want pixels....also we are talking about 0.0001% of the rs population here....so you cnt say alot....alot would mean 40% of rich ppl....and if that would be true....that cant be true...you are another 10 year old jelous little kid who cant make money and whines cause others can....jagex have made the game very very secure now- so if ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâôanyone gets hacked of scammed- its their own fault. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 lmao! funny you should use that example becuase, believe me or not, i actually DID build my computer! i bought all the alienware parts and put it together myself. which, in turn, would be like buying runes and training mage to get your own robes..... pwned Not quite sparky, being able to screw some pre-fab parts together does not equal "building your own computer". Basically you did exactly what anyone buying the robes is doing... you did something else to gain money, used that money to buy a case, motherboard, hard-disk, monitor, gfx card etc and put it together to make a set. Just like someone mining coal in runescape to go buy the hat, robe, top etc and get the set of infinity robes. I believe the expression these days to be "pwned" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 MAKE THESE ITEMS UNTRADEABLE! Why? No-one has yet posted one single reason as to why they want these items untradeable other than their own irrational fear of someone else getting something that they might want. have you read all the posts? people have made very valiable points (which i agree with) as to why these items should be untradeable. People spend hours and hours training here to save up pazzaz points and get the robes. other people just spend there money and buy them. it just doesnt seem fair. jagex has it all backwards...the holiday items should have been tradeable (they are gone after a few days and then they work up value), the infinity robes should not be tradable (they are here to stay, all the value will do is decrease until everyone has them.) all you rich people need to stop buying your items and maybe acually work for them! so i back making them untradeable totally Other people got their money from the tree and bought everything? do you realise you have to work for money? dont? im not suprised- i dont understand you newbs- you dont want to make barrows armors untradeable and want these items to be untradeable??? whats wrong with you people I do not think that they should be untradable (keep em tradeable). Multiple people have been comparing these to cw, well you can really do that. The two are completely different. Castle wars does not give you good armor for one its just a symbol, the new mage robes will actually give bonuses. If you are to compare the points you get from the new mage area to anythign it would be to tokul (can never spell that right). They are very much the same are they not? you do minigames to earn points/tokul and then you trade them in for armor and weapons. However i think it is a good idea to have maby 1 or 2 items untradeable kind of like the fire-cape. But i feel that they should make 2 aditional things for this like a stronger mage amulet or somethign of the like, and that you do not get it for trading in points, but instead for a cumunative amount of like 100k maby? I dont understand why no one realy complained about the obby and onyx stuff but are about this. There isnt much difference except from melee to magic. They might even be planning something for rangers. High level people and people that don't get to play much would never get them because they dont have the time or arnt so excited about a little more exp? I sounds to me that most of you are just jelous and don't want to see rich players getting them and you working hard. The rich people have earned their money and earned the right to buy the items. Don't let jealosy and selfishness over the items cause them to become the hardest items to obtain in the game. The mage area was made as a new way to raise magic, the wands, book, robes, etc. were a bonus. A lot of these rich players "earned" there money by scamming friends, using key loggers, macroing, picking up party hats off the ground 3 years ago, bug abused in the duel arena ect. Hows that earning it, as for the new mage items i could care less, i have mine, and i dont have to sell it so it doesnt affect me either way. You lost your mind? scammers dont play the game for playing it- they play it to sell the cash in rl- why would they want pixels....also we are talking about 0.0001% of the rs population here....so you cnt say alot....alot would mean 40% of rich ppl....and if that would be true....that cant be true...you are another 10 year old jelous little kid who cant make money and whines cause others can....jagex have made the game very very secure now- so if ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâôanyone gets hacked of scammed- its their own fault. Actually i know plenty of rich scammers and lately autoers who play the game not just sell the items. Im 20 years old and i have plenty of pixels on this game, i just pointed out that a LOT of these richer players didnt earn there money, go to the fishing guild some time, check out 10 chars with the same name auto fishing shark, you think that guy works for his money? :roll: Look at onestrike the guy ran a trojan website for 2 years and never got cought, he doesnt sell his pixels. Robin hood... he has maybe a billion in scammed/keylogged gold and items, he doesnt sell his items.. Charlie before he got banned had a lot of scammed gold and items, he never sold it.. Zaelon 22 stole a blue and white party hat off thingy, did he go sell it on ebay? nope. These are just the big names that every one knows for every 1 thats known there is 100 that arnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotsol Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 i think it should be just like castlewars, hard to get not something everyone can just merchant. But jagex made the choice and i dont think it will change. *curses* RSN: 1 day late | Private chat: On | 60 ATTACK | 81 STRENGTH | 72 HITPOINTS | | 80 MAGIC | 13 PRAYER | 1 DEFENSE | 65 COMBAT | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukerwood Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 i think they should be like the toy thinggys cos everyone only got one colour and some people would rather have money and other a full set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Solution...make certain items tradable. And those items should be teachers wand and lower wands, infinity top, and infinity bottom. I agree, let some things tradable, some things non tradable. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkULLEDPK3R Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dude quit being a pain in the [wagon]. Anyway you are still paying for it the same. Its the buyers fault if they are missing out on the xp so mind ur own business noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahlachi Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Agreed......Allowing the items to be tradable Is hurting the market and allowing rich people to be lazy. *Pulls out HIs Quail pen and signs His approval* Adios Amigos, Mahlachi Thank You Jagex, The New Bank system Is here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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