Unafraid to bot

[Dire_Wolf]

@Dire_Wolf

 

Do you understand what the word complete means?

 

 

Calm dude its the internet lol.... its called completetionist cape for a reason, not all things combat cape... quit crying. You want the thing your gonna have to skill. end of that story.

I am calm :shades: I was just joking with you because you thought i didn¨t know what the word completionist means. And i am not crying. But the fact that this "Completionist cape" has combat stats is a problem. Because fact is: most people want that cape for it¨s stats.

 

So why not make a "Completionist cape" that gives stats but also 3 emotes (among them Dragon emote), and a "Combat cape" where you get the current stats of Comp cape.

 

Completionist players get emotes + stats. Combat players gets only stats.

That way the Completionist players can feel "Special" and have a "Exclusive cape"

And Combat players will have the stats of the cape that Comp players have.

[Fire_Hawk154]

I don't really care if mains use bots. When they get banned, they usually quit (good ridance).

But when lvl 3s bot, it's annoying. When they get banned, they create a new account :thumbdown:.

[Hazezor]

I quit in September 2009, just recently started playing.

I was shocked to see how many people actually use a bot, I don't get it, so many things have changed and like you mentioned, people used to get a perm ban for macroing once!

 

If you think about it, the more bots there are, the more money Jagex gets from membership payments... In my opinion that part of the game is ruined, you see tons of skillcapes now, which I believe a lot of them are achieved by using macro programs. I miss the good old days, where people would follow you saying: omg nice skill cape :P!

It wont stop me from playing now, but if things do get worse, Jagex's gonna find theirselves cutting down on their profit.

[Crossed_Body]

I am calm :shades: I was just joking with you because you thought i didn¨t know what the word completionist means. And i am not crying. But the fact that this "Completionist cape" has combat stats is a problem. Because fact is: most people want that cape for it¨s stats.

You are looking it the wrong way. The completionist cape has combat stats, yes, but that's not where it goes wrong. It should also give skilling boosts, due to requiring non-combat skills to obtain.

 

I'll leave the "skilling boosts" to your fabulous imagination.

[Derrick44444]

@Dire_Wolf

 

Do you understand what the word complete means?

 

Calm dude its the internet lol.... its called completetionist cape for a reason, not all things combat cape... quit crying. You want the thing your gonna have to skill. end of that story.

 

Because you wouldn't have completed the game if you only had combat stats or vice versa

[Silvertaler]

Let's try to steer away from spamville, kthxbai.

 

I'm sticking by my belief that bots are symptomatic of a system which has neglected to make content that is both fun AND rewarding and/or refuses to change their system beyond a few cosmetic tweaks to EXISTING infrastructure in fear that they would appear to be inconsistent when all they are showing us is that they can't make a difference when they need to.

 

The way they handle things, after releasing any kind of content, they always leave it alone afterwards, except for the occasional single set of tweaks (which usually makes things slightly worse), and then forge ahead without any kind of further quality control post release. Jagex is always working off of some kind of patchwork knowledge of what actually goes on in their game because of it and nobody learns a thing worth a damn.

 

A year or so later, they admit that they need to change it, but by then, NOBODY CARES and everybody complains that they spend too much time on these fixes that seem unnecessary at that point since everybody else assumed they were supposed to move on and never took another glance at it again.

 

Meanwhile, we hear complaints of people being constantly bored, yet there's so many years' worth of content that goes wasted because nobody wants to use it!

 

I still don't understand why it would be so bad if our fun content was more rewarding than our stupid mindnumbing content which nobody actually ENJOYS doing, because there was only a few days worth of effort spent into making it so that you can stand at an ugly tree that looks like the fifty trees next to it and bang your head against it for hours, yet we have all these other areas with so much programming going into them that they thought would be convenient for the people playing there, and all this fancy graphical retooling that makes it a unique place to visit, and nobody's there because YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING OF WORTH FROM SPENDING ANY TIME THERE.

 

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH BEING A PEST CONTROL PRODUCT? At least there were actual goals, strategy, teamwork, and fighting monsters that were endangering lives, and always being on the edge of danger and so on, even if there wasn't a risk of actually dying (let's face it that's not really a risk anymore). If anything, their experiences were probably more meaningful than those of a "slayer" that uses his immense knowledge of dangerous beasts to...do exactly the same thing as he was doing before, but with a piece of "special equipment" he happens to be carrying at the time. And then he clicks on the monster and beats it to death without any superficially imposed penalties.

 

Scintillating.

 

Do you know why people make fun of this game despite the fact that there are so many things in it that we can study and appreciate? Why most people are ashamed to even discuss it in chat or admit that they play it? It's because they don't actually see that stuff! All they see is a bunch of morons stuck in the stone age doing incredibly boring things so that they can make more money. All of the fancy content, with the interesting things, hardly anybody touches that stuff. Let's all go run back and forth between a bank and the feeding pen like zoo animals.

 

wait, this isn't the rants board, my bad

 

Anyway, my point is that people consider that to be the work of a bot rather than anything capable of independent thought

Reading 5 paragraphs of posh english makes my head hurt, but if what you're saying is that people care about skills too much in this game then I agree. There's so much content, much superior in quality to skills, that people just don't explore because there are no "rewards". I wonder where such people find their definition of "reward". The best reward from a game is fun, not some pixel coins. I always supported the idea that quests were the best aspect of this game. Nobody still cares, which results in new quests sucking, and grinding getting encouraged, which then leads to botting.

 

Aside from that. You know what people, in a few years companies will finally realize how pointless it is to fight bots in a MMORPG. It's pretty plausible they'll just distribute their own bots to make themselves more money and to make the game more interesting. Some of them have already started. Bots are a consequence of grinding, and most of these games have got way too much grinding involved. You can't just make a game that takes 10 years to finish, and expect people won't bot it, that's ridiculous. It's inevitable. Jagex may not be willing to raise the EXP rates by something like 100x, but botters are even less willing to stop botting.

 

Probably a few typos out there but yeah whatever, I'm tired.

[Heisenberg]

 

I'm sticking by my belief that bots are symptomatic of a system which has neglected to make content that is both fun AND rewarding and/or refuses to change their system beyond a few cosmetic tweaks to EXISTING infrastructure in fear that they would appear to be inconsistent when all they are showing us is that they can't make a difference when they need to.

 

Guild wars has no grind whatsoever (Besides titles which do nothing at all). It is a game built around competitive/fun play; money has no real value, items have no real value, you can get maxed weaponry for free.

 

Yet people still bot. Don't delude yourself into thinking Jagex is the reason runescape has bots.

[curtis95112]

 

I'm sticking by my belief that bots are symptomatic of a system which has neglected to make content that is both fun AND rewarding and/or refuses to change their system beyond a few cosmetic tweaks to EXISTING infrastructure in fear that they would appear to be inconsistent when all they are showing us is that they can't make a difference when they need to.

 

Guild wars has no grind whatsoever (Besides titles which do nothing at all). It is a game built around competitive/fun play; money has no real value, items have no real value, you can get maxed weaponry for free.

 

Yet people still bot. Don't delude yourself into thinking Jagex is the reason runescape has bots.

 

What are the motivations behind botting in Guild Wars? I've never played it before.

[Heisenberg]

 

I'm sticking by my belief that bots are symptomatic of a system which has neglected to make content that is both fun AND rewarding and/or refuses to change their system beyond a few cosmetic tweaks to EXISTING infrastructure in fear that they would appear to be inconsistent when all they are showing us is that they can't make a difference when they need to.

 

Guild wars has no grind whatsoever (Besides titles which do nothing at all). It is a game built around competitive/fun play; money has no real value, items have no real value, you can get maxed weaponry for free.

 

Yet people still bot. Don't delude yourself into thinking Jagex is the reason runescape has bots.

 

What are the motivations behind botting in Guild Wars? I've never played it before.

 

Money. As value-less as it is to any gameplay plats are still worth decent usd.

[Stev]

I will repeat my view on this subject. I do not believe the problem is individuals who bot. You can't blame them. It's the companies with thousands of them running at a time.

 

I don't think there's enough individual players who bot that really make an effect.

[Silvertaler]

I will repeat my view on this subject. I do not believe the problem is individuals who bot. You can't blame them. It's the companies with thousands of them running at a time.

 

I don't think there's enough individual players who bot that really make an effect.

Yeah, individual botters generally aren't a problem. Maybe sometimes they KS you, but they could have been a real player doing the same thing. Gold bots however, crowd the game and corrupt the economy. Why is it that nobody here knows the difference between bots and gold bots? That's one term I rarely get to see on Runescape, yet there's so many of them out there.