TheLad1 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 TheLad1, that is alot of data, I'd like a chance to look at it and see if we can use it. Could you send it to me at [email protected]? No problem, I'll e-mail the spreadsheet. A word of warning thought - the Black Dragon data will be slightly flawed as sometimes I do KBD's for the task, I haven't differentiated for this in the spreadsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Also, in this case you'll have to adjust your test to the data available. What do you mean?If there is no data on no block task lists, don't research them - there being no data means there are not a lot of people using such lists, which means any data will have limited application anyway. Better to research a common task list such as max effigies. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It's going to be a few weeks before I slay for 99 Summoning, however, I'll log exp/hr, effigies and other drops, as well as summoning charms. I'll be using the fastest setup(might not use overloads, but I'm getting 96 herb and 95 prayer at least, as well as all three chaotic melee weapons if possible.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Just curious. Is any of the data collected for Vex' spreadsheet of use to you. I've recorded around 100 tasks on that, but for skipped tasks, I don't have the number assigned(Although I still have my last 50 or so tasks in my notepad, with assigned). Also, I have no charm data. Some other discrepancies are that all of my Dagannoth tasks are marked as skipped, as well as a couple black dragon tasks because I always DK for my tasks, and occasionally do KBD. This could be fairly easily fixed, because I did still record a lot of that data, and kept in my notepad.Also, I recorded no charm data. Take a look at my spreadsheet, as well as my notepad, and let me know if it's any use. If it is, I will move it all into your slayer log and start recording data there.https://spreadsheets1.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CLb18v0L&key=0ApczY2eyCbT4dGpzMjFjREdUb2QtaG9NY1JlRkVraHc&hl=en_US&authkey=CLb18v0L#gid=0 Data:205 Nechryael - 1 Effigy215 Dark Beasts - 1 Dark Bow175 Bloodveld - No unique136 Blue Dragons - No unique96 Iron Dragons - No unique46 Skeletal Wyverns - Skipped169 Abbysal Demons - Skipped176 Waterfiends - Skipped173 Hellhounds - No unique152 Greater Demons - Skipped170 Kalphites - Skipped152 Hellhounds - skipped230 Black Demons - Skipped169 Abbysal Demons - Skipped68 Terror Dogs - Skipped152 Living Rock Creatures - Skipped150 Abberant Spectres - No unique1 Jad 136 Ice Strykewyrms - 1 Effigy250 Mutated Bloodveld - No unique217 Dark beasts - 2 Effigy, 1 Dark Bow223 Warped Torts - Skipped215 Mutated Bloodvelds - No unique220 Black Demons - No unique69 Terrordogs - Skipped228 Dagannoth - (Skipped)Jad 152 Nechryael - Skipped124 Blue Dragons - No Unique170 Abberant Spectres - Effigy154 Abbysal Demons - 1 Whip53 Black Dragons - No Unique233 Bloodveld - No Unique230 Black Demons - No unique151 Dark Beasts - No unique225 Dagannoths - (Skipped)205 Hellhounds - No unique202 Dagannoths - (Skipped)200 Spirit Mages - Skipped183 Waterfiends - Skipped57 Skeletal Wyverns - No unique170 Dark Beasts - 2x Effigy221 Dagannoth - (Skipped)167 Spirit Mages - Skipped181 Dagannoth - (Skipped)82 Skeletal Wyverns - No unique55 Steel Dragons - Effigy188 Greater Demons - No unique185 Abberant Spectres - No unique148 Hellhounds - No unique197 Spirit Mages - Skipped102 Iron Dragons - Dragon skirt233 Warped Tortoises - Skipped187 Dust Devils - Skipped224 Dark Beasts - Effigy242 Greater Demons - Skipped181 Spirit Mages - Skipped195 Aberrant Spectres - Effigy168 Hellhounds - Effigy56 Suqah - No unique241 Bloodveld - No unique124 LRC - Skipped207 Dark Beasts - Dark Bow, Effigy216 Abyssal Demons - No unique124 ISW's - Staff of light134 LRC - Skipped154 Hellhounds - Effigy153 Aberrant Spectre - No unique4 Mithril Dragons - No unique59 Steel Dragons - No unique179 Spirit Mages - SkippedJad - No Unique73 Steel Dragons - Dragon skirt172 Dust Devils - Skipped63 Suqahs - No unique164 Spirit Mages - Skipped188 ISW's - No unique102 Iron Dragons - No unique76 Black Dragons - Effigy186 Spirit Mages - Skipped55 Suqahs - No unique219 Bloodveld - No unique170 Spirit Mages - Skipped46 Steel Dragons - No unique151 LRC - Skipped106 Iron Dragons - Effigy216 Spirit Mages - Skipped176 Warped Torts - Skipped210 Black Demons - No unique154 Blue Dragons - No unique65 Terror Dogs - Skipped153 Hellhounds - 2 Effigy168 Nechryael - No unique157 LRC - SkippedJad - Skipped205 Greater Demons - No unique9 Mithril Dragons - No unique88 Steel Dragons - No unique167 Ice Strykes - Skipped211 Dark Beasts - No unique199 Ice Strykes - Skipped181 Hellhounds - 2 Effigies202 Dagannoth - (Skipped)86 Black Dragon - (Skipped)166 Mutated Jadinkos - Skipped233 Black Demons - No unique213 Nechryael - No unique46 Black Dragons - No unique222 Waterfiends - No unique184 Bloodveld - No unique155 Abyssal Demons - 1 Whip89 Suqahs - Skipped197 Warped Torts - Skipped249 Dusties - Skipped61 Terror Dogs - Skipped159 Aberrant Spectres - No unique205 Waterfiends - Skipped106 Ice Strykewyrms - Staff of Light77 Suqah - Skipped215 Warped Torts - Skipped167 ISW - Skipped5 Mithril Dragons - No unique105 Iron Dragons - No unique188 Warped Torts - Skipped225 Bloodveld - No unique170 Dust Devils - Skipped178 Dagannoth - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I talked to Vex and he has no interest in helping with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 @Jiji, I would appreciate any data you are able to collect, and thank you for your help. @Brainy, I will transfer the data over and use as much of it as I can, thank you for contributing. If you'd like to keep helping it would be awesome if you could use the new format. @Muuu I wasn't so much look for help as I was looking for access to what he may or may not have. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Mmk so now that you have that data, I should just start my new sheet fresh, without any of that data? Also, do you have any plans of implementing a Form into your sheet that inputs data automatically. That's what Vex has in his and it makes it a lot easier to input data and ensures that everyone types their data in the same way, making it much easier to mass export data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 @Jiji, I would appreciate any data you are able to collect, and thank you for your help. @Brainy, I will transfer the data over and use as much of it as I can, thank you for contributing. If you'd like to keep helping it would be awesome if you could use the new format. @Muuu I wasn't so much look for help as I was looking for access to what he may or may not have.By saying he had no interest in helping he meant he had no interest in sharing any data he may or may not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 @Muuu, thank you for talking to Vex. @ Brainy, please use the new sheets without the old data. I will spend some time this week and try to learn how to write forms and see if I can come up with something similar to Vex's. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 If you want, I can probably write a form. I got partially into it, but it takes a lot of time because you have to have the first page of the form be to choose the assigned task, and then have that direct you to the next page, which is different for each task, to choose the task type. Then once that is complete, have it move to the last page, where all the other data is entered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 if its of any interest, I have a few 100 tasks logged in my blog (blog section, not blogscape), has charms+effigies, skipped tasks, but I dont remember my block list. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 @ Aiel. I will take a look and see if I can find it, it would be awesome if you could check you block list for me at some point. @Brainy and everyone -- I've added a form to the spread sheet. If you would like to have access to it, you will need to copy the sheet again to create a new copy. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Might wanna change the Task skipped to Multiple choice rather than checkboxes. Also, having your sample "Dust Devils" in there messes up the data a bit if people don't delete it, and if they do, it seems to mess with the formatting a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 I've removed the sample and changed the option. Thanks Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'm curious. How do you plan on using data that have different block lists? PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2011 The first thing I'm going to look for is distribution in each log to see if there is a relationship between the tasks you do get and how often they occur. With a big enough sample size to have valid data with different sets, I *should* be able to come up with fairly accurate numbers. Now one thing I am concerned about is that the tasks you may receive could be effected by the Combat level of the person, IE) Someone who is 120 combat, may have a different distribution of tasks then that of someone who is 138. With that I need to eliminate some variables or assume Ceteris Paribus. I have the feeling some things may need to change but until I get some data to look at I can't validate those assumptions. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 First gather lots of data, then see if some things stand out :). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2011 First gather lots of data, then see if some things stand out :). Exactly what I was thinking. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerri Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I'm a Slayer noob. This sounds like a perfect excuse to feed my Slayer addiction (as opposed to, say, skilling.). Count me in. ... one can dream, right? ... See my blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Now one thing I am concerned about is that the tasks you may receive could be effected by the Combat level of the person, IE) Someone who is 120 combat, may have a different distribution of tasks then that of someone who is 138. With that I need to eliminate some variables or assume Ceteris Paribus. I assume the best way to figure this one out would be to separate data by various combat and slayer levels. The rule of Ceteris Paribus is useful, but only once you've got a pretty good idea of what factors effect the task frequencies. If you eliminate factors beforehand, there is a high chance that your going to find an incorrect causation. If you can get a few maxed players(combat/slayer/gear wise) and use their data to form a baseline, then compare it to data from various combat/slayer levels, it should be pretty easy. This assumes, of course, that the data samples are large enough(ie: I've got fifty tasks where a vast majority were the same monster[though they may have fixed this awhile back], however these fifty tasks didn't represent my overall ratio of tasks.) I'm not sure what a good sample size is, and it would be hard to calculate lower level players task frequencies because the individual sample size at each level is going to be small [because of level gains]. It's also going to be skewed based on what players block/skip, though if everyone uses the most efficient task lists, this could be worked around without issue. The study will take a good while, and I plan to start tracking my data when I return to the skill in a few weeks, but it should give some interesting information that could be rather useful. ie: If we know the frequency of tasks, we'd know the chances of skipping a task only to get another equally bad task [which is useful when your low on points]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieMonsta Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The link to my log can be found HERE if you would like to check on it at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 Thank you everyone for helping out, for this to work I need tonnes of data. So every little bit helps. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Muto Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I've been logging my tasks for the past 4M Exp or so. All I've been keeping track of is Effigies/Bows/Whips/Staffs. http://pastebin.com/hg4bPGzC Feel free to use the rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 I've been logging my tasks for the past 4M Exp or so. All I've been keeping track of is Effigies/Bows/Whips/Staffs. http://pastebin.com/hg4bPGzC Feel free to use the rates.Would you mind telling me what your block list is? Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Muto Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Warped Tortoises, Blue Dragons, Living Rock Creatures, Desert Strykewyrms, and the last one slipped my mind, I'll edit it after I'm done with this task. EDIT: Waterfiends was the other task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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