Saradomin bow

[tuuskukk14]

Ever since summoning and the EE/EEE food as such has been used less and less. Even guthan is suggested in various guides here on tif but I have never seen anyone mentioning the Saradomin bow (special: The special attack drains 55% of the special attack bar, deals damage and heals you for double the amount of damage dealt. This healing is applied over a short period of time. ).

 

So has anyone looked into this or done any research, at first this seems to be a good alternative for some or have I missed some important thingy that makes this inefficient.? although the bow itself is 3.4m.

 

(edit, had a typo)

[Hegelstad]

Doesn't boost defense like EE/EEE does. Other than that, I could see it fit as a good replacement if you don't want to skill to get EE/EEE.

[Frede173]

People aren't aware of its existence and prefer more 'offensive' weapons such as dragon claws or dds. And if they have soul split as well they'd probablt get healed for the same amount (if not more?) than the sara bow would.

[Jeff Delu]

If you use this as a spec weapon for slayer or something you probably want to bring d hide to switch into for the spec. Also it might be worth range potting.

[tuuskukk14]

I don't have the bow nor am I planning to purchase it, I just started to wonder why hasn't this been mentioned anywhere since it atleast seems to be a good alternative for people without EE/EEE, or even beat it in some cases since it only uses 55% of the special attack bar and the potential of healing nearly 500 if used with prayers and/or FSH. The maxiumum hit with 99 range, sara arrows, FSH, Rigour and extreme ranged is 360 (tipit calc) healing for 720 which would be epic imo.

 

Edit. The main field this should be used would be slayer or something similar. Against bosses and high leveled mosters as the high defence will be hard to hit though

Edited August 7, 2011 by tuuskukk14

[pulli23]

the market is really a nice market:

 

-EE beats it in convenience

-SGS is better if you're rich but don't like doing the diaries

-soul split is better

 

It'll be hard to find someone who hasn't got one of the above.

[Quyneax]

Niche* market.

 

It's good for range tanks without ee/eee, and would be a decent special for, say, Armadyl god wars if you don't have ee/eee (using it on the minions after Kree is dead).

[Octarine]

Assuming 99 range, rigour, ex range, this cones to a max hit of 303, and say accuracy on minions at arma is 90% (which I think it's fairly reasonable)

 

Then we get an average damage per spec of about 135

So 270 healing per spec, and hence 450 healing per spec bar assuming you use it as much as possible

 

Which is most definately better than the standard EE and perhaps better than an EEE, although consistency is one of the best things about the EEE

 

 

And also, Excalibur wouldn't score a hit, whereas the bow would. Ofc obvious downsides are more invent spaces used for Sara bow, and I guess you could still use it mid-kill, if you were to target a minion for the shot

 

Edit: 268 is the max for standard range pot, eagle eye (I.e. Most probably the situation where you would have EE but not EEE)

thus would give about 438 healed per bar, making it most definately the better option :o

Of course, for lower range levels this is going to drop off quite fast, down to lower max hit and lower accuracy also

 

(Feel free to correct any of the maths if this is wrong btw)

 

On second thoughts, an 80% accuracy is probably much more likely. Sara bow is still better than the respective tier excaliburs assuming this in te past two examples though... If you're willing to take te gamble for healing that is ;)

 

And for rangeslay this is great, but then again, who needs food nowadays? :P

[NoHopeLeft]

EEE is better at Arma, you use it right as you Overload and rely on the fact it will always heal you.

[tuuskukk14]

EEE is better at Arma, you use it right as you Overload and rely on the fact it will always heal you.

Like he said, regular ranged pot. no overload. The point is that the bow is an alternative for those who haven't 'unlocked' EEE or EE

[Octarine]

EEE is better at Arma, you use it right as you Overload and rely on the fact it will always heal you.

 

I usually use my EEE right at the start of a kill and use it to sit through most of the kill without the need for healing, and peaches+maybe one brew for healing the ovl damage

Guess it's just a matter of preference really

 

Also EEE has a few other downsides at arma, missing a combat turn and sometimes causing the minis to de-spawn (though that might just be a glitch) whereas the bow wouldn't suffer from that

[Nifflin]

Offensive specials increase kills per hour, exp per hour.

 

Defensive specials don't do anything that a bunyip, uni, SS, brews or sharks wouldn't already do.

 

EEE is the only useful defensive special and the only places where it is good are arma gdw, WFS and for skilling. Arma GDW becuase the only damaging spec that would be viable is handcannon and that would take up a lot of inventory. WFS because there are no offensive specs that have higher DPS then zammy spear, sara aword or chaotic maul. Skilling because you don't need offensive specs anyways so it's nice to get HP back at agility courses and LRC.

 

I wouldn't bring the bow + arrows to arma GDW because it would take an extra inventory spot. Also, if you're not using overloads there then it's probably not going to be a good moneymaker.

 

That being said I would recommend getting EEE for the situations where it is best. Also OP if you need healing I would recommend a long term investment into 95 prayer. Soul split is amazing and frost bones are at a record low.

[Quyneax]

Waterfiends do have worthwhile specials against them, which is to say, Korasi's sword is great on Ancient Cavern fiends and dragon claws are good at high attack levels on any waterfiends.

 

At Armadyl god wars, the dark bow spec has higher dps than a handcannon, as your average spec hits around 500 in 4.8 seconds (with rigour) whereas the average handcannon spec hits half that in 3 seconds not even including accuracy. Neither is used much of course, as healing specials are superior due to the slow killcount.

 

EEE is great for DKS because it dramatically reduces the number of brews you need. It closes the small damage gap left after you've used ss and food drops.

 

Octarine is otherwise correct in that it heals pretty well, but it's actually a bad thing that the bow scores a hit because EE/EEE do not take attack turns to use, and crossbows tend to have higher dps than the god bows.

[Kirbyallstar]

the market is really a nice market:

 

-EE beats it in convenience

-SGS is better if you're rich but don't like doing the diaries

-soul split is better

 

It'll be hard to find someone who hasn't got one of the above.

 

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But anyways, I agree with what a lot of people are saying in this thread. EEE is so much better than the sara bow. Although I have the bow, if I could use the EE or the EEE I definitely would over the bow. I rather get healed for a consistent 400 lp every 5 mins than an unreliable heal every 2-3 minutes. Since the sara bow is an attack spec, it ranges from 0 to whatever the max is. Many times I use the spec I get frustrated when it hits a 0 or like a 50, because I use it when I need to be healed the most. The only places I use it at are slayer tasks and easy bosses like the KBD. It's probably more use to a ranger than a meleer because melee has so much better choices for healing. If anyone wants to test the bow for themselves, feel free to let me know.