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[Lord Paul]

Lol on taking over Q's blog...

 

Here, Bruno.

[Quyneax]

Nice one Bruno!

 

Got 92 agility. I didn't answer someones question 'Lev?' because I thought it was stupid. I reported the guy for offensive language when he called me a bot :).

 

Edit: Only need hunter, smithing and farming rocks to finish Shattered Heart.

 

Edit2: Got hunter rocks.

[brunokiller]

Lol on taking over Q's blog...

 

 

wait, what's this blog for then?

[Quyneax]

Farm runs today were 63, 71+1, 51, 60+2. Around 3m profit :D. Also got most rocks, only 3 more to go. Fight Kiln tomorrow/tuesday!

[Quyneax]

412 adamant platebodies (4 sc hammers exactly), only one smithing rock. 250kish xp though.

[Ambler]

How long does it take to get all rocks-roughly? Might start collecting in case I ever want comp cape. :lol:

Also, best ways for each one?

[Quyneax]

http://forum.tip.it/topic/299446-q/page__view__findpost__p__5054965

 

Probably a couple of hundred hours in all but the amount of xp is huge, so maybe 10 hrs lost on the way to max.

 

 

Only need to wait now and it'll be done :). Also almost 280m total xp.

[Lord Paul]

:thumbsup: Congrats on finishing that frustrating D&D!

[Saradomin_Mage]

Well done, Quyneax =D>

[Bxpprod]

:D

[Quyneax]

Thanks guys :).

 

Celebratory corp (not really), loot:

First ffa split drops 1m+, but I got too many kills (dreadnips + goliaths, not the 29 bolts split though). Then cs, and in cs bolts aren't split, so another 175 :P. Variously 3-6 people, mostly 5. Invid died only about 10 times. Charms are only from the last 1.25 overload cs trip, I had 39 blues and 13 crims more I think.

[Bxpprod]

D:

[Quyneax]

I'm taking a break from RS due to the effigy nerf. Quest is fairly unspectacular.

 

To clarify: this is the first update I'm considering quitting over, as effigies in their past form are crucial to my goal. I do not see myself hunting penguins for 99 runecrafting.

[Sir_Squab]

Wow. WTF.

 

Personally, I think effigyscape shouldn't exist in the first place. However, Jagex should have addressed effigy scape by making it obsolete, not by destroying effigies. If jagex is worried about exp/day, then make it so you can only open so many a day.

 

I was gonna write a huge post on the RSOF about it, but I ran outta space. And [bleep], I don't even PLAY anymore. Effigies were, honestly, a band-aid solution to the problem that is maxing in RuneScape. You are now rewarded for maxing, yet so many skills are useless, and some skills are just too slow without effigies. If Jagex nerfed RC and Slayer, like severely to make training at higher levels not such abysmal exp, it wouldn't be so bad.

 

Ultimately, many of the flaws of RS come from the fact that the early stages of the game were poorly designed because it wasn't supposed to do extremely well. It was supposed to have a life-time of under a year, maybe a casual game people play. When Jagex first made the level system, 99 was supposed to be a level that was almost impossible to achieve. Now people try to max out and get the Maxed cape.

 

Many flaws can be found in the early game. Why was firemaking a skill? Even before banks it was useless; the purpose of firemaking was to cook food whereever you were, but since lvl 1 trees are the most common it's not terribly useful. Another thing was the production skills. In RSC, armour had no lvl req; the best armour, Rune, required 99 smithing to make. However, when upgraded to RS2, Rune had a lvl 40 def req to wear. This is wrong; something that takes lvl 99 smith to make should require lvl 99 defense to wear.

 

Many of the skills suffered problems and eventually went obsolete, in large part I think because tasks were split up between skills. Crafting for ranged armour. Fletching for ammunition. Woodcutting to get wood for fletching/firemaking.

 

Ultimately, there are too many crafting skills. You should only need one crafting skill to turn an unfinished product into a finished product. Not everything should have required skill levels.

 

Bla. Dat rant.

[Quyneax]

Meh RS is not well-designed at all because it has grown so much over the years. It needs fixing, but it doesn't need a nuke of what has become an integral part of the game after 1.5 years. It's like nerfing chaotics down to the power of whips and godsword, but worse.

 

I admit I did log on to try the Kiln after posting that, but after a lot of false starts I kinda gave up on that (goliaths nearly degraded, forgot space for crystals, yak not full timer anymore etc.). I'm going to defeat Russia in Civilization V now, and leave them with a nice little island which just about holds a city (they have a 1 hex island up in the arctic, only Guthix knows why they settled there) and use Great Artists to culture bomb them down to 1 hex then nuke them -.-.

 

My advice for the kiln:

 

First and foremost, spend money.

Secondly, bring ganodermic/virtus, max mage with Ardougne cloak 4, Storm of Armadyl and lots of casts, goliath gloves! (important). Also rapier, fury, defender, torva (or Bandos or something). EEE spec, pickaxe!.

4 overload, 4 renewal, 4 sup restore, 8 super prayer, arma runes, uni scrolls, uni pouch, switches and rest brews (including yak & that's all flasks (6) of course). Approximately. You can restore prayer while in there as well so you may need less prayer.

Melee the first waves, praying ss. Only ranged + melee attacks. They hit a tiny bit through prot range.

You'll get some mages at some point, pray mage, no big deal. Also some ket-dill thingies, pickaxe them and crush with goliath gloves.

Wave 10 is Jad with a few rangers, pray switch and deal with rangers before dealing with Jad in a regular fashion (I never got this far so...).

Not sure past this but at some point something may be worth using SoA on either because of the range it has, the dps it has or the defence of the enemy.

Wave 20 and 30 are Jads too.

Last wave but two and three both have Jad, last wave but one is two Jads according to rswiki. That's 7 Jads total.

Big boss: melee tentacles mage big head? No clue.

[Sir_Squab]

Honestly, I often think that Jagex should just make RS3 as a do-over. Once (if) they realize many of the flaws in RS.

[I_am_Not]

could alternatively actually runecraft!!!!!!

[Lord Paul]

Quick, pass on your H&A knowledge to me!

 

Seriously, hope you come back soon. :cry:

[Lose No Hope]

Seriously, hope you come back soon. :cry:

 

 

I understand completely with how much this messes up the goal of maxing (it screws up my plan, too). I hope you return. Dgs and tif wouldn't be the same without you.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Please don't go.

Please.

 

I don't know what else to say.

But you know how I feel about this :(

[Bxpprod]

 

or,

 

you decide

[Quyneax]

I'm touched guys, appreciate it <3:. I'm definitely not focusing on maxing anymore, but maybe I'll come back to dg a bit, later. I'm still very annoyed at Jagex and I can't look at the RS homepage without raging atm.

 

Jagex is closed, untransparent and lacks a global vision. They do not understand their own game, they do not know what they want it to be in a year and they do not tell anyone what they are doing. The Q&A posted about the effigy nuke contains a sentence (I paraphrase): "We didn't expect this many effigies to enter the game." and "Telling people about this nerf beforehand would only make it worse.". That shows that Jagex is unable to work out the effigy rate from the formula (which they designed themselves!) and the kill rate on any monster (which they control, by updating spawn rates, monster defence etc.). It also shows they do not at all care for efficiency or the 'saving' aspect of effigies to gain a greater reward from them. However, despite them being caught off-guard and disliking effigyscape, it took them some 1.5 years to figure this out and 'fix' it, and it came as a complete surprise. Power creep naturally make it easier to obtain effigies, but the main boosts (overload, turmoil, steel titan, cannon) were already around at the release, and power creep in skilling xp rates (urns anyone?) should compensate for that. Previous updates have favoured effigies - no sign Jagex wanted to make them less common. New releases like glacors, ganodermics and Storm of Armadyl made it easier to obtain effigies. But now, they have to be clumsily nuked because Mod Mark can't compete at crawlers <_<.

 

tl;dr Jagex isn't very good at this game.

 

The good news is Russia is totally trashed :thumbup:. Moving up a difficulty level now (I'm not very far yet but getting there).

[Troll Bomber]

It seems as though you hop around a lot in terms of training different skills, doing different activities, killing TDs, ect., so how does the effigy nerf put that big of a dent in maxing for you?

 

You're already pretty close, and you've got most of the levels to open almost any stage on your own, so it seems as though the only downfall is the fact that the rates have been reduced, which sucks for everyone though.

 

You can still get level 99 effigycrafting, you just won't be able to hoard effigies like you might have done previously and get all the levels at once (if that was even your plan), but the xp will be gained the same way in the end. You'll just have to open them on the spot now.

[Quyneax]

I only did random skilling for strange rocks, I was hugely looking forward to only having to hunt tds and dungeoneering and do pengs/troll invasion etc. to level RC to the point I would be willing to lamp it. Now that I get to the point that it's all only fun stuff, the fun stuff gets nerfed into oblivion.

[Leik]

Pff, at least you have a bunch of skills left to level. I only have (had) Slayer and DG left in this game to enjoy. But since Jagex brutally murdered the Slayer part, I only have DG. And that does get a bit annoying and repetitive at times. I know I won't be Slaying for the next few weeks at least.

 

But oh well, at least you're not completely quitting, which is good. :)