Q

[Quyneax]

I know it's tough to do, that's why it's a viable strategy :P. Good luck ;).

[Leon S]

Why Miasmic Blitz instead of Miasmic Barrage? 40 more damage and Blitz spells aren't more accurate than Barrage spells.

[Ambler]

Why Miasmic Blitz instead of Miasmic Barrage? 40 more damage and Blitz spells aren't more accurate than Barrage spells.

Few people have told me blitz is better, dunno why, but I barrage anyway. :lol:

Was doing it with Barrages anyway, person I was fighting was using blitzes, but only 75 def and 99hp/mage. It becomes easier to switch if both people Miasmic'd though.

[Leon S]

Why Miasmic Blitz instead of Miasmic Barrage? 40 more damage and Blitz spells aren't more accurate than Barrage spells.

Few people have told me blitz is better, dunno why, but I barrage anyway. :lol:

Was doing it with Barrages anyway, person I was fighting was using blitzes, but only 75 def and 99hp/mage. It becomes easier to switch if both people Miasmic'd though.

 

I've heard of the theory before that lower level spells are more accurate, but when I tested this with Wind Strike and Fire Surge, both spells had the exact same accuracy.

[Saradomin_Mage]

I got into a thread about Whisper vs Fury on the RSOF, and I seem to recall somewhere that strength bonuses were always superior to attack bonuses, until they became equal at 50% accuracy. This is actually the case, right?

[Saradomin_Mage]

De double post

[Quyneax]

I got into a thread about Whisper vs Fury on the RSOF, and I seem to recall somewhere that strength bonuses were always superior to attack bonuses, until they became equal at 50% accuracy. This is actually the case, right?

Yep, barring rounding/extremely high def:hp ratios (the infamous 10 lp corporeal beast). Whisper has +20 total where fury has +18, and whisper has higher strength, so it always results in better raw damage output. There may be select cases where the +15 def bonus would increase effective dps more because you need to eat less, but that seems extremely unlikely to me.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Is there proof for this somewhere? Someone seems convinced that at low (10%) accuracy it'd be more worthwhile to increase attack bonuses versus strength bonuses, though I thought that even against a monster with infinite defence roll strength = accuracy (at that point).

[Quyneax]

Uh, at 10% accuracy, you probably have other things to worry about, but that aside...

 

It's about % increase afaik, of course +64 attack bonus added to +0 doubles your effective attack roll, where +64 strength bonus on +256 only adds 20%. But in RS, there simply isn't any way to get a difference that big between attack and strength bonus. I think the highest is something like berserker ring, necklace, Pernix etc. but nobody really uses that.

 

Of course if I'm wrong I'm sure Hedgehog will show up with a full explanation in triplicate in impeccable Latin.

[Bxpprod]

Nerds

[Hedgehog]

You need 64 att bonus to double your attack roll. But the amount it takes to double your strength roll is dependent on your effective strength because of this:

 

[Nien]

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, all knowing blog.

 

Does anyone in here flip often?

And if so, what items would best (do you think, or atleast a couple guesses) for flipping with 4-4.5M?

 

I'm currently playing around with bulk items (items that you buy ~25k of and sell for a marginal profit of 5-10 gp) and some pricier items such as Verac's Brassard (which moved out of a good flipping margin, sadly).

Suggestions?

[Ambler]

You can flip pretty much anything, you just have to keep looking till you find something with a decent margin.

[Nien]

You can flip pretty much anything, you just have to keep looking till you find something with a decent margin.

 

Just trying to compile a list of my own and add some items to it that other people have found to be really good items for flipping (whether that be bulk or not).

[Bxpprod]

You can flip pretty much anything, you just have to keep looking till you find something with a decent margin.

 

Flip an elephant.

[Ambler]

You can flip pretty much anything, you just have to keep looking till you find something with a decent margin.

 

Flip an elephant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2vfL-FNeZQ

Someone beat me to it. :/

[Bxpprod]

Elephants are large land mammals in two extant genera of the family Elephantidae: Elephas and Loxodonta,^[1] with the third genus Mammuthus extinct.^[2] Three living species of elephant are recognized: the African bush elephant, the African forest elephant and the Indian or Asian elephant;^[3] although some group the two African species into one^[4] and some researchers also postulate the existence of a fourth species in West Africa

[Ambler]

You asked me to flip an elephant. This is where specifying beforehand becomes useful. :)

[Bxpprod]

And yet, YOU didn't flip it.

[Quyneax]

Actually logged in today, did the new quests. They are fun. With the 1k xp reward total (+ about 50k xp from the spins I got as rewards) I am now closer than ever to maxing! *cough*.

 

Also traded in my Bandos, Glaivens, Ragefires and some cash in for Virtus top and Subjugation boots. Can't be bothered getting the rest of that set because come EoC Virtus will be better anyway, and 1300+ lp is pretty nice. But the boots are actually 3m cheaper which is just about the cash I have left now :P.

[Quyneax]

OK bit late but worth mentioning the bonus xp got me 98 agility yesterday, and I used an instakill dart each on the QBD and Sunfreet (because I cba thinking about them), going to use the next two at Nex.

[Ambler]

You could easily do QBD... This is shameful.

 

I got my boxing sim working, attack & defense rolls are 8+(Bonus+64)/64, correct? I also need strength's rolls, Rapier and then custom sim, WITH ATTACK SPEEDS coming up sometime, I'm finding this fun. :)

[Hedgehog]

You could easily do QBD... This is shameful.

 

I got my boxing sim working, attack & defense rolls are 8+(Bonus+64)/64, correct? I also need strength's rolls, Rapier and then custom sim, WITH ATTACK SPEEDS coming up sometime, I'm finding this fun. :)

 

I think we have posts about this in way too many blogs, but whatever. Here's a php version. I tried to make a C++ one but declaring data types gets annoying.

 

 

 

<?php

$iterations = 10;

$Player1["Attack level"] = 125;
$Player1["Strength level"] = 125;
$Player1["Defense level"] = 125;
$Player1["Prayer"] = "Turmoil";
$Player1["Style"] = "Aggressive";
$Player1["Void robes"] = false;
$Player1["Attack bonus"] = 200;
$Player1["Strength bonus"] = 180;
$Player1["Defense bonus"] = 200;
$Player1["Lifepoints"] = 990;


$Player2["Attack level"] = 125;
$Player2["Strength level"] = 125;
$Player2["Defense level"] = 125;
$Player2["Prayer"] = "Turmoil";
$Player2["Style"] = "Aggressive";
$Player2["Void robes"] = false;
$Player2["Attack bonus"] = 200;
$Player2["Strength bonus"] = 180;
$Player2["Defense bonus"] = 200;
$Player2["Lifepoints"] = 990;

$prayerBonus1 = getprayerBonus($Player1["Prayer"]);
$prayerBonus2 = getprayerBonus($Player2["Prayer"]);

$voidRobes1 = getvoid($Player1["Void robes"]);
$voidRobes2 = getvoid($Player2["Void robes"]);

$Turmoil1 = getturmoilbonus($prayerBonus1["Turmoil"]);
$Turmoil2 = getturmoilbonus($prayerBonus2["Turmoil"]);

$style1 = getstyle($Player1["Style"]);
$style2 = getstyle($Player2["Style"]);

$lp1 = $Player1["Lifepoints"];
$lp2 = $Player2["Lifepoints"];

$Player1["Effective attack"] = floor($voidRobes1["Attack"] * floor($Player1["Attack level"] * $prayerBonus1["Attack"])) + $Turmoil1["Turm attack"] + $Style1["Attack"] + 8;
$Player2["Effective attack"] = floor($voidRobes2["Attack"] * floor($Player2["Attack level"] * $prayerBonus2["Attack"])) + $Turmoil2["Turm attack"] + $Style2["Attack"] + 8;
$Player1["MAR"] = floor($Player1["Effective attack"] * (1 + $Player1["Attack bonus"]/64) * 10);
$Player2["MAR"] = floor($Player2["Effective attack"] * (1 + $Player2["Attack bonus"]/64) * 10);

$Player1["Effective defense"] = floor($voidRobes1["Defense"] * floor($Player1["Defense level"] * $prayerBonus1["Defense"])) + $Turmoil1["Turm defense"] + $Style1["Defense"] + 8;
$Player2["Effective defense"] = floor($voidRobes2["Defense"] * floor($Player2["Defense level"] * $prayerBonus2["Defense"])) + $Turmoil2["Turm defense"] + $Style2["Defense"] + 8;
$Player1["MDR"] = floor($Player1["Effective defense"] * (1 + $Player1["Defense bonus"]/64) * 10);
$Player2["MDR"] = floor($Player2["Effective defense"] * (1 + $Player2["Defense bonus"]/64) * 10);

$Player1["Effective strength"] = floor($voidRobes1["Strength"] * floor($Player1["Strength level"] * $prayerBonus1["Strength"])) + $Turmoil1["Turm strength"] + $Style1["Strength"] + 8;
$Player2["Effective strength"] = floor($voidRobes2["Strength"] * floor($Player2["Strength level"] * $prayerBonus2["Strength"])) + $Turmoil2["Turm strength"] + $Style2["Strength"] + 8;
$Player1["MSR"] = floor($Player1["Effective strength"] * (1 + $Player1["Strength bonus"]/64) + 5);
$Player2["MSR"] = floor($Player2["Effective strength"] * (1 + $Player2["Strength bonus"]/64) + 5);

for($i = 1 ; $i <= $iterations ; $i++){

$Player1["Lifepoints"] = $lp1;
$Player2["Lifepoints"] = $lp2;

while($Player2["Lifepoints"] > 0 && $Player1["Lifepoints"] > 0 ){
	$Player1["Attack roll"] = rand(0,$Player1["MAR"]);
	$Player2["Defense roll"] = rand(0,$Player2["MDR"]);
	if ($Player1["Attack roll"] > $Player2["Defense roll"]){
		$Player1["Strength roll"] = rand(0,$Player1["MSR"]);
		$Player2["Lifepoints"] -= $Player1["Strength roll"];
		echo ("Player 1 has hit Player 2 for " . $Player1["Strength roll"] . " damage.\n");
		if ($Player2["Lifepoints"] <= 0){
			echo ("Player 2 has died!\n\n");
			continue;
		}
	}
	else{
		echo ("Player 1 missed Player 2 and hit 0 damage\n");
	}

	$Player2["Attack roll"] = rand(0,$Player2["MAR"]);
	$Player1["Defense roll"] = rand(0,$Player1["MDR"]);
	if ($Player2["Attack roll"] > $Player1["Defense roll"]){
		$Player2["Strength roll"] = rand(0,$Player2["MSR"]);
		$Player1["Lifepoints"] -= $Player2["Strength roll"];
		echo ("Player 2 has hit Player 1 for " . $Player2["Strength roll"] . " damage.\n");
		if ($Player1["Lifepoints"] <= 0){
			echo ("Player 1 has died!\n\n");
			continue;
		}
	}
	else{
		echo ("Player 2 missed Player 1 and hit 0 damage\n");
	}
}
}

function getprayerBonus($prayer){
if ($prayer != "Turmoil" && $prayer != "Piety" && $prayer != "None"){
	die("Prayer must be Turmoil, Piety, or None");
}
if ($prayer === "Turmoil"){
	$prayerBonus["Attack"] = 1.15;
	$prayerBonus["Defense"] = 1.15;
	$prayerBonus["Strength"] = 1.23;
	$prayerBonus["Turmoil"] = true;
}
elseif ($prayer === "Piety"){
	$prayerBonus["Attack"] = 1.20;
	$prayerBonus["Defense"] = 1.25;
	$prayerBonus["Strength"] = 1.23;
	$prayerBonus["Turmoil"] = false;
}
elseif ($prayer === "None"){
	$prayerBonus["Attack"] = 1.00;
	$prayerBonus["Defense"] = 1.00;
	$prayerBonus["Strength"] = 1.00;
	$prayerBonus["Turmoil"] = false;
}
return $prayerBonus;
}

function getturmoilbonus($turmoil){
if($turmoil){
	$Turmoil["Turm attack"] = floor($Player2["Attack level"]*0.15);
	$Turmoil["Turm strength"] = floor($Player2["Strength level"]*0.10);
	$Turmoil["Turm defense"] = floor($Player2["Defense level"]*0.15);
}
else{
	$Turmoil["Turm attack"] = 0;
	$Turmoil["Turm strength"] = 0;
	$Turmoil["Turm defense"] = 0;
}
return $Turmoil;
}

function getvoid($voidrobes){
if ($voidrobes){
	$voidbonus["Attack"] = 1.1;
	$voidbonus["Strength"] = 1.1;
	$voidbonus["Defense"] = 1.0;
}
else{
	$voidbonus["Attack"] = 1.0;
	$voidbonus["Strength"] = 1.0;
	$voidbonus["Defense"] = 1.0;
}
return $voidbonus;
}

function getstyle($style){
if ($style != "Accurate" && $style != "Aggressive" && $style != "Defensive" && $style != "Controlled"){
	die("Invalid attack style");
}
elseif($style === "Accurate"){
	$style["Attack"] = 3;
	$style["Strength"] = 0;
	$style["Defense"] = 0;
}
elseif($style === "Aggressive"){
	$style["Attack"] = 0;
	$style["Strength"] = 3;
	$style["Defense"] = 0;
}
elseif($style === "Controlled"){
	$style["Attack"] = 1;
	$style["Strength"] = 1;
	$style["Defense"] = 1;
}
elseif($style === "Defensive"){
	$style["Attack"] = 0;
	$style["Strength"] = 0;
	$style["Defense"] = 3;
}
return $style;
}

?>

 

 

[I_am_Not]

hi ;P

[Quyneax]

hi ;P

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