Formerly_Deathknell Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Jagex should be responsible for what happens on their game, not in real life. In a perfect world filled with rational-thinking people, yes. But if that held true, then an entire community focused around Runescape wouldn't have been shunned and dealt a damaging blow because of the 14-yr old mistakes of the distant site owner. Fair enough. I didn't like the way the site was shunned afterwards. Community might be a little grandiose term for the 12 people still left at RV. :unsure: Was Deathknell, but the password recovery never worked for me. So I'm this now. Whatever. Someone get me some damn fried chicken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demby123 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 These are the kind of things that disgust me.... It will happen again soon with some other item or feature. Hand holding never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 These are the kind of things that disgust me.... It will happen again soon with some other item or feature. Hand holding never works. Return of the flower game, I have seen at least one "horse game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Horse game seems really common actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quitthegame Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Jagex really is in a tough position here. It will be a long time before they remove every possible method of RNG to break conventional gambling. After every possible thing is gone (say within the next year or so) lvl 3 boxing accounts will catch on. Especially with the high score update showing all members even if they lvl 34 total lvl You gain zero combat xp while dueling? they could just add in very small xp gains while dueling to break that :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Jagex really is in a tough position here. It will be a long time before they remove every possible method of RNG to break conventional gambling. I'm sure it's been mentioned before (probably in big letters), but the only real way to do that would be to go back to trade restrictions of some kind. Interactions with the game are random enough that, with time, so-called "dicers" will permeate into every imaginable random activity and seek to exploit players from it. I'm actually pleased and a bit confused with this change. On the one hand, it's good that they're [finally] taking a stand against this sort of behavior in the game. On the other, wouldn't they have known that virtual dice and virtual coins would create a virtual gambling ring? Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Jagex really is in a tough position here. It will be a long time before they remove every possible method of RNG to break conventional gambling. I'm sure it's been mentioned before (probably in big letters), but the only real way to do that would be to go back to trade restrictions of some kind. Interactions with the game are random enough that, with time, so-called "dicers" will permeate into every imaginable random activity and seek to exploit players from it. I'm actually pleased and a bit confused with this change. On the one hand, it's good that they're [finally] taking a stand against this sort of behavior in the game. On the other, wouldn't they have known that virtual dice and virtual coins would create a virtual gambling ring? But at some point convincing people that they have a chance at winning becomes more and more difficult. Especially because with dicing, the host can set the odds of winning, but with dueling the odds are (hopefully) even so there is no "house". Dicers did it because they could make it 55% chance to win for them. This means that over time they always make more money. Other methods don't draw as many customers. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixfd64 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 From what I remember, dueling always gave XP. Was this changed recently? ARENAscape: Baratus [AS] max hit: 166 with Moon Battle Hammer ixfd64 [AS] max hit: 116 with (untitled spell #2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 But at some point convincing people that they have a chance at winning becomes more and more difficult. Especially because with dicing, the host can set the odds of winning, but with dueling the odds are (hopefully) even so there is no "house". Dicers did it because they could make it 55% chance to win for them. This means that over time they always make more money. Other methods don't draw as many customers. This is true. Eventually the "trust" will break down within these groups. But, it won't really stop them from trying in the meantime, especially with updates that add chance to an event occurring. Good ol' junk trading and merch clans back again. I dont see how dicing is a big enough problem to justify bringing that back to everyone. If you dont like it dont dice. That said Jagex response to it is a legal one not a moral one. Well of course not. Dicing wasn't a big enough problem to resort to something so drastic. However I do disagree about the legal response; I genuinely get the feeling that this is them not wanting their game to get notoriety for gambling of that sort. I would have said any sort, but if you can wager on Conquest games....well... Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaida23 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 From what I remember, dueling always gave XP. Was this changed recently?No, it still gives Xp. Check out my blog to read the Adventures of a Big Damn (F2P) Hero. THE place for all free players to connect, hang out and talk about how awesome it is to be F2P. So, Kaida is the real version of every fictional science-badass? That explains a lot, actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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