15-Nov-2011 - Breaking Dicing

[Gradeskip]

A famous dice host (Liked) already invented a new game... with the magic skull... Gambling will still be going for some time sadly.

[Kata_Phfract__the_slayer]

A famous dice host (Liked) already invented a new game... with the magic skull... Gambling will still be going for some time sadly.

saw it coming...

[lordkafei]

A famous dice host (Liked) already invented a new game... with the magic skull... Gambling will still be going for some time sadly.

saw it coming...

 

Perhaps Jagex saw it coming too.

 

But now Jagex has made a rather emphatic public statement about not wanting this sort of behavior in the game, and modified the game to prevent said behavior.

 

So lets say people just switch to flowers / skullballs / etc.

 

But now Jagex has set a precedent about games of chance and might actually be emboldened to wield the banhammer or take away GP in the future.

[Kirschen]

A famous dice host (Liked) already invented a new game... with the magic skull... Gambling will still be going for some time sadly.

saw it coming...

 

Gotta love how creative and craft opportunists are in this game. :rolleyes:

 

Guess Faruq will be removed from the game entirely at this rate.

[Logdotzip]

Can't stop betting, there will always be alternatives. I wonder how much content Jagex is willing to remove to stop dicing, or they could just stop appeasing idiots who don't understand the concept of chance.

[Crossed_Body]

Dicing is worse than the Duel Arena because staking doesn't lure in gullible noobs

Completely wrong. People have been tricked again and again into duels they think they can win. Never seen a low level pure win a duel against a higher level opponent because he was greedy and gullible?

[bladekill133]

I liked dicing because it transferred money from the dumb people to the smart people. Very Darwinian.

[aspeeder]

I liked dicing because it transferred money from the dumb people to the smart people. Very Darwinian.

Or one could say from the dumb people to the already rich people who could afford a rank, in which case it's not very Darwinian.

[Carl]

I liked dicing because it transferred money from the dumb people to the smart people. Very Darwinian.

 

 

...It required a smart person to host? :rolleyes:

[Stev]

I'm waiting for, "OMFG, I got cleaned boxing! Remove staking, Jagex, I quitz0rs!"

 

Just a bunch of stupid [bleep]ing people complaining because they were too dumb and trusted others with huge amounts of money or lacked self control to resist or stop. Now because those idiots ruined the game for themselves, they ruin it for the rest.

 

RuneScape.

[Crossed_Body]

Or one could say from the dumb people to the already rich people who could afford a rank, in which case it's not very Darwinian.

Anyone can host and build reputation. Granted they start slow and earn less, but there are ways to be competitive without being "already rich" or buying a rank.

[Carl]

I'm waiting for, "OMFG, I got cleaned boxing! Remove staking, Jagex, I quitz0rs!"

 

Just a bunch of stupid [bleep]ing people complaining because they were too dumb and trusted others with huge amounts of money or lacked self control to resist or stop. Now because those idiots ruined the game for themselves, they ruin it for the rest.

 

RuneScape.

 

Money's transferred only after a staking match. With Dicing, it's before the game's started. Therefore any Joe can state they are dicing, take money and log out. You can't do that in a Duel. You have hiscores, etc. at your disposal to insure it will be a fair match.

[Kaida23]

You have hiscores, etc. at your disposal to insure it will be a fair match.

Not for long. Not in F2P anyway. <_<

[Carl]

You have hiscores, etc. at your disposal to insure it will be a fair match.

Not for long. Not in F2P anyway. <_<

 

AFAIK you could only stake very small amounts in F2P. I wasn't including F2P in what I said.

[Wantmyar]

you can stake items besides gp....

[Stev]

I'm waiting for, "OMFG, I got cleaned boxing! Remove staking, Jagex, I quitz0rs!"

 

Just a bunch of stupid [bleep]ing people complaining because they were too dumb and trusted others with huge amounts of money or lacked self control to resist or stop. Now because those idiots ruined the game for themselves, they ruin it for the rest.

 

RuneScape.

 

Money's transferred only after a staking match. With Dicing, it's before the game's started. Therefore any Joe can state they are dicing, take money and log out. You can't do that in a Duel. You have hiscores, etc. at your disposal to insure it will be a fair match.

 

So we can stake... But they can't add an option to dice where the host has to pay out because we shouldn't gamble. Awesome logic Jagex. Pure genius on your part.

 

However, my point wasn't about the scamming as much as the gambling. Anyone who gives a massive amount (Compared to their own bank) to some "trusted" dicer is an idiot hands down.

 

Jagex specifically mentioned a reason it being removed was because of the gamble:

What do we mean by “bad use” of dice items? Well, gambling for GP was never the intention of the dice. There is no support for PvP gambling within RuneScape and we do not intent to add any. Gambling is a risky pastime and nobody should ever rely on gambling to make money.

[...]

Don’t gamble!

I'm sure part of the "overwhelming feedback" on the forums was just kids who couldn't stop and who got cleaned [bleep]ing on the forums about how bad and evil dicing is. It's like somebody losing his savings at a Casino and then going on a quest to have Casinos shut down because they're bad evil scams!

[Vann]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

[Tecmaster]

About time they did this. :thumbup:

 

Although I do see the reasons why people could be upset about this, dicing really has created a lot more bad things than good.

[Robert_R]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

What do you use for BBG?

[Formerly_Deathknell]

So if they add gambling can we also they also add some hookers?

 

I'm sorry, I mean "escorts." :mellow:

[4nr]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

What do you use for BBG?

 

Mithril Seeds

[Robert_R]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

What do you use for BBG?

 

Mithril Seeds

Don't they have more colors than that?

[Vann]

[hide=Quote Tree]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

What do you use for BBG?

 

Mithril Seeds

Don't they have more colors than that?

[/hide]

 

We use Skullball on Colours. There are 8 colors so it is 3/8 which is 62.5x2. Best we could come up with on short notice. but it is taking off.

 

peace,

Vann

[Robert_R]

[hide=Quote Tree]

As a rank in Mew2, I will say that we are already back in business. We have a new game to compete with Liked, Win All Day, theMilk, etc.

 

Ours is BBG x2. It is Blue, Black, Green = 2x payout. Other colors are loss for bettor. Almost the same as 60x2.

 

I know all the stuff about scammers, but we push for bettors to bet only on Ranks because no rank in Mew2 has ever scammed and all ranks are insured up to 2B.

 

Not advertising, just saying that there are legit clans out there and you shouldn't automatically get labeled "Scammer" for being a Dicer Skullballer.

 

~Rub one out and hope for the best~

 

peace,

Vann

 

P.S. Update was fun for us trying to figure out what to do, but while we were waiting I went +450M from owning ranks in another trusted cc who were dumb enough to host yes/no x2. Super easy to double. Me and 2 other Mew2 ranks won 1.5b off of them total.

What do you use for BBG?

 

Mithril Seeds

Don't they have more colors than that?

[/hide]

 

We use Skullball on Colours. There are 8 colors so it is 3/8 which is 62.5x2. Best we could come up with on short notice. but it is taking off.

 

peace,

Vann

Oh so if they hit any of those three colors they win. Smart solution to the dicing being removed. Puts the odds more in your favor than dicing.

[Runecrafts]

First bots get broken, now they remove dicing? Kudos to Jagex for stepping it up.

I'm glad they are finally changing things for the better.