Poet Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Hello. Today i lost my santa hat as a guy named : [name] Trust traded me hes santa hat and asked me to lend him myne for 1 hour. I traded him my santa for 1h , I DID LEND , NOT NORMAL TRADE! After like 5 mins i just realised that my santa is not in the lent out box! Its gone forever! Than i tryed to lend out another item until logout to a friend and i got it back! What the hell is happening?! Some1 could rollback my account with like 10H to get it back for me? PLEASE! Edited December 26, 2011 by Quyneax Removed name, no need to name names ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It's a scam as far as I know. did he offer to give you a santa, then ask for it back? I almost lost my Ags to something like this, he actually declined the trade, not actually accepting, so you ended up giving him YOUR santa, and not his. :wall:Also, Jagex will not roll back accounts, sadly. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 We never declined trade , have all on vid , its a [bleep]ing glich! And also , why not? Jagex could just roll me back and than i would have my santa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 They do not roll back personal accounts because they were scammed. I'd like to see this video though [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haimonek Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 A friend of mine lost his bcp like this. Best explanation I could come with was what Ambler said. But my friend who got scammed says that in the chatbox it said that the trade was accepted. Tbh, I have no idea what's going on but you're not the first. All I can say for now is to be careful what and who you lend to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 If you can help than you can see it , if not than why would i let you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It would give an insight as to what happened, and whether what Ambler suggested is what happens. I don't really understand why you got so defensive when we are trying to figure out for you what happened and with a video this can help us further? :L [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The video WILL help us explain it to you, though I have to say you were probably scammed with the method I descibed above. Also, rolling back a single account is near impossible, due tothe amount of interactionwith other accounts, and those accounts may have interactd with OTHER accounts.... ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The best thing they can do is fix the glitch that caused this scam and ban those accounts who used this to scam other people. Your santa however is lost, they do not do roll backs unless it was something really significant like server-wide glitch or a really really big one like duplicating or something. Trust trades, in contrast to its name, is NEVER trust worthy, let it be them asking you to do the trust trade, or they offer to the trust trade to you. The only thing I can say is this, to put it bluntly, Get over it. It was partly your fault for falling to the scam, even if you were completely oblivious. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The main thing that occurs to me with this: If he had a Santa and you had a Santa why, oh why on earth was he trust trading you his and you lending him yours? That sounds like the most moronically pointless thing ever; what is it even meant to achieve borrowing the same item off each other at the same time? But yeah as other people covered ain't gonna get rolled back and the video would be helpful to see wtf happened, though tbh the sheer fact you have it on video sounds odd to me. Why would you be videoing everyday goings on in the first place? But yeah the video would be helpful. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The main thing that occurs to me with this: If he had a Santa and you had a Santa why, oh why on earth was he trust trading you his and you lending him yours? That sounds like the most moronically pointless thing ever; what is it even meant to achieve borrowing the same item off each other at the same time? But yeah as other people covered ain't gonna get rolled back and the video would be helpful to see wtf happened, though tbh the sheer fact you have it on video sounds odd to me. Why would you be videoing everyday goings on in the first place? But yeah the video would be helpful.I'd personally record a santa trust trade too. (Well i wouldn't be dumb enough to do a 'trust trade' but you get the idea.) As for the scam glitch, i'm calling BS till we see video proof. As far as i know, the lending system hasn't been changed in months, so it's highly unlikely theres a glitch that no one has stumbled upon by this time. More likely you just traded the wrong santa, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ^ doh yeah. So didn't think of that angle. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helm_Lardar Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 No vid, no proof. You're not really explaining what happened, and you won't let anyone see a video, so there's no way we can help you or even sympathise. I'm not an efficienado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTheCop Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 What happened was he declined the trade then said okay give me my santa back, assuming he accepted the trade and your santa was lent out you give him YOUR santa and he got a scammed santa, someone tried to get my ags that way last night. "Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances."Benjamin Franklin "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRambo Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Actually this happened to someone I know .. they lent a dragon platebody but weren't able to get it back again afterwards. :angry: "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." "An imperfect man can do great deeds, and a great man imperfect ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deletion Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It's a scam not a Glitch. He got you to lend him YOUR Santa then traded you and offered up HIS santa. He then declines this trade and uses YOUR santa back on you to give it back, making it looks like the trade went through successfully. You then gave him 'back' YOUR santa via trade. You never had his Santa, and you gave yours away without realising. Jagex will never roll back personal accounts because of a scam, sorry for your loss :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It's a scam not a Glitch. He got you to lend him YOUR Santa then traded you and offered up HIS santa. He then declines this trade and uses YOUR santa back on you to give it back, making it looks like the trade went through successfully. You then gave him 'back' YOUR santa via trade. You never had his Santa, and you gave yours away without realising. Jagex will never roll back personal accounts because of a scam, sorry for your loss :( How very clever.... this seems most likely (I still don't see why you agreed to this and so happened to be vidding... something funny about this whole mess imo)But yeah it's your fault and Jagex won't do a thing about it. Sucks... Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It's a scam not a Glitch. He got you to lend him YOUR Santa then traded you and offered up HIS santa. He then declines this trade and uses YOUR santa back on you to give it back, making it looks like the trade went through successfully. You then gave him 'back' YOUR santa via trade. You never had his Santa, and you gave yours away without realising. Jagex will never roll back personal accounts because of a scam, sorry for your loss :(Hah. The very way this scam functions only works on the gulliable and kind hearted. This is the type of thing that destroys someones trust forever, it's like it was created by the devil or something. I love it. Edit: Explanation for why i say that. First of all you must find someone is willing to trade you and hold onto your santa. Most would just assume it was some sort of scam and ignore the person. And then, your victim must be willing to give you 'your' santa BACK. You are punished for your kindness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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