Hi there,

 

 

I'm wondering more and more: how do people get the money to chin/cannon? I hear "boss" or other things constantly. But then for bosses you need maxed stats, to get maxed stats before I'm 80 years old I need to cannon and to cannon I need more cash?

 

How come some people apparently have cash out of thin air?

Other (non-combat) skills, Hunter and Farming are great examples. I also hear green dragons are skill 'okay' money, but don't quote me on that. Barrows can be profitable as well.

Flipping is good too, if you've got an okay cashpile to begin with.

Other (non-combat) skills, Hunter and Farming are great examples. I also hear green dragons are skill 'okay' money, but don't quote me on that. Barrows can be profitable as well.

Well those are good for "standard" things, to gain an outfit of like 30m..

 

However considering I need to buy (for slayer) around 200M on cannonballs. - Or for ranging, 100M+ in chinchompas. With an income of around 1M at barrows that would take me more than 2 years..

I hear farming torstol is around ~500k-1m per run, and you could probably do multiple runs a day. But you wont earn 200m any time soon using the methods I said, but they are a stable income and I prefer them over the more risky methods of earning money. But have you ever considered trying the 'fast methods'? I don't really have enough experience with any of the other 'fast methods' of earning money to advise them to you (staking, gambling, etc). But your luck might be better than mine.

 

That's all I have, maybe somebody else could be more help to you. Good luck. :thumbsup:

I hear farming torstol is around ~500k-1m per run, and you could probably do multiple runs a day. But you wont earn 200m any time soon using the methods I said, but they are a stable income and I prefer them over the more risky methods of earning money. But have you ever considered trying the 'fast methods'? I don't really have enough experience with any of the other 'fast methods' of earning money to advise them to you (staking, gambling, etc). But your luck might be better than mine.

 

That's all I have, maybe somebody else could be more help to you. Good luck. :thumbsup:

Well I "know" a few them alright:

 

dks > need 96 summoning

tds > need turmoil/extremes to not get crashed

glacors > similar to tds

nex > need maxed stats

armadyl > need maxed ranging

corp > need overloads

 

But as you can see, I honestly have no idea how to jump the barrier between "basic outfit" and "95 pray, herblore & summoning". Actually, once I'd have jumped that gab you hardly NEED cash anymore - you can do just everything already, maybe 99 summoning might be a goal then, so that really made me wondering: why do people require those things in guides? Isn't that kind of silly, require things to have which you wish to earn through that?

Since I am not aware of your username or your stats, it is difficult for me to give you much in terms of advice. If you've got Elite Void gear, a reasonable Summoning level, and some reasonable combat abilities, you can melee/range Black Demons.

 

The benefits of doing so are such that, if you bank the ashes, youd be able to cover you costs AND train Range, Summoning (crimson charms) and Melee all at the same time. On top of that, youd be getting regular effigy drops which would result in your training additional skills

 

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Since I am not aware of your username or your stats, it is difficult for me to give you much in terms of advice. If you've got Elite Void gear, a reasonable Summoning level, and some reasonable combat abilities, you can melee/range Black Demons.

 

The benefits of doing so are such that, if you bank the ashes, you’d be able to cover you costs AND train Range, Summoning (crimson charms) and Melee all at the same time. On top of that, you’d be getting regular effigy drops which would result in your training additional skills …

 

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Well my stats are all around 80, melee 90-95, range 91.. Then the "buyables" which are around 70.

You can't get crashed at Glacors... and you only need 95 magic. Glacors, in my humble opinion, are the best boss for lower levels. I get 36 kills per hour on average, which adds up to about 3m-3.6m gp/hr (to be honest, I have had 7 boot drops with a total profit of ~150m in about 1800 kills) gross profit. I lure the Glacytes and so on. Gear I use?

 

• Ahrim's (3m)
  
• Infinity boots (1m)
  
• Illuminated unholy book (cost me less than 1m, should've been preemptive in purchasing the best offhand offensive item of the time!)
  
• Polypore staff (900k or so for 3,000 charges)
  
• Ring of wealth, Barrow gloves, Arcane necklace, Soul Wars cape
  

 

Yea, I use overloads, but again, that cost me less than 75m from whatever level I was before. Agreeably that's a while at green dragons, but overall, it's only a few weeks of playtime if you do herb runs, MTK, other dailies, and some moneymaking.

... and how many quest points do you have? :unsure:

 

Do you have Elite Void at this moment in time?

You can't get crashed at Glacors... and you only need 95 magic. Glacors, in my humble opinion, are the best boss for lower levels. I get 36 kills per hour on average, which adds up to about 3m-3.6m gp/hr (to be honest, I have had 7 boot drops with a total profit of ~150m in about 1800 kills) gross profit. I lure the Glacytes and so on. Gear I use?

 

• Ahrim's (3m)
  
• Infinity boots (1m)
  
• Illuminated unholy book (cost me less than 1m, should've been preemptive in purchasing the best offhand offensive item of the time!)
  
• Polypore staff (900k or so for 3,000 charges)
  
• Ring of wealth, Barrow gloves, Arcane necklace, Soul Wars cape
  

 

Yea, I use overloads, but again, that cost me less than 75m from whatever level I was before. Agreeably that's a while at green dragons, but overall, it's only a few weeks of playtime if you do herb runs, MTK, other dailies, and some moneymaking.

Well I can only play during the weekends, or offweeks (and then only like 2 hours in total each day) as I'm terribly busy with my study these days. And last time I checked (september/october last year) farming snapdragons wasn't all that profitable anymore :/, I'll recalculate it soon. But I'm currently 85 magic, 95 is quite a long run :P. How is that "lower levels" though? Lower is 60ish?

 

But what's more frightening: consider someone was new to rs, they'd have no manner to catch up soon anymore, there seems to be a growing gab between "lower lvl money earners" and "higher level".

 

I've been playing from rsc btw, just never ever bothered with earning money and just always went castlewars, stealing creation, dungeoneering, questing, barbarian assault..

If you've only a couple of hours a day, I'd suggest you train using the "Effigyscape" set up at Black Demons:

 

Equipment:

 

Elite Void Torso

Elite Void Robe

Void Helm

Void Gloves (RFD Gloves if you have the Void Deflector)

Void Deflector>Dragon Defender>Obby Shield

Chaotic Rapier>Vine Whip>Abbysal Whip

Soul Wars Cape>Fire Cape>Skill Cape>Obby Cape

Steadfast Boots>Dragon Boots>Rune Boots

Pack Yak>Tortoise>T-Bird

Reverence Aura+

 

Cannon + Cannonballs

 

Fallador Teleport

Prayer Pots

Summoning Pots (if Yakking)

Yak Scrolls (if Yakking)

Super/Extreme/OVLs are optional but recommended (faster kills)

Holy Wrench (if you dont have Reverence, or if it runs out, or dont have the SW cape)

Alking Runes for items

DG Gem Bag (optional)

EE/EEE (just in case)

 

The Elite Void and Soul Wars cape will give you a sweet prayer bonus. Combined with Reverence, you're prayer pots will last you a fairly long time.

 

Obviously, your Summoning level and choice of BoB will determine how long you can stay at the Black Demons until you need to bank. Set up your cannon at the North end of the Black Demon lair in the Taverley Dungeon just South of the pillar is a great spot. Load it and fire it. Pray defence against melee constantly while in the lair. Melee the Black Demons.

 

Collect the ashes and Red Crimsons. And the effigies. Alk everything else. Store dropped gems in the gem bag. Teleport to Fallador after each full Load. Leave your cannon firing while you go if you like.

 

Two hours a night is two Yaks or three Tortoises a night ...

 

Banked ashes will cover the cost of the pots, cannon and cannonballs.

I made money for turmoil with farming (snapdragons, before scroll of life and juju). Same deal for overloads, but torstol. Then I went for 99 summoning/steel titan, which was funded by farming again (+2 claw drops iirc).

 

Basically, you need 200m worth of cannonballs to powerslay to max, but you'll also get drops. I rarely had more than 10k cannonballs at the time when I went for 99 slayer, because I didn't have that much cash, but with farming I never had trouble buying enough (+ I used steel titan scrolls a lot, that cost extra). A single sol drop will buy you 3-4k cannonballs or something. One task's worth of dragon bones is 1k cannonballs (and you don't cannon irons/steels/miths).

Trust me there are people like me, who have most have the stats required for most boss hunting but do quite have the aptitude to do so. I have got ovls + Turm + all dung rewards + unicorn and my best drop thus far has been a 5 way tasset split. Now I am currently working my way up to a yak, currently have the charms for 95 Summoning. Every single step have taken to upgrade my stats has let me down. I got Turmoil but I was still pretty bad at boss hunting. I went and got ovls, when that didnt help I got all the dungoneering rewards I could get. Eventually I realized that I am just not good at it, I still try it now and again but I still haven't gotten the hang of a single boss monster.

I hear farming torstol is around ~500k-1m per run, and you could probably do multiple runs a day.

 

Torstol is awful to farm now, even with jujus and scroll of life. Snaps are the way to go right now imo.

I think what you're lacking is a lot of content. It isn't stats that enable someone to cannon or chin, it's content. With content, you make more money more efficiently, and the cannon is the ultimate sacrifice of money for efficiency.

 

I would also like to disabuse you of the notion that cannoning is "worth it". I like to think of the cannon as an end-content item. You need all those things you listed, money, and more. The cannon is a symbol of a point where your time is suddenly worth more than your money because you have no more use for money. The problem with your situation is that you're rushing ahead for no reason. There is zero reason why you need or should want a cannon. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you will be able to afford to cannon.

 

I say give up on cannoning. I tried to cannon too, i used 500 cannonballs and I gave up on it...

That's an interestingly incorrect interpretation of efficiency. It has nothing to do with how much money you currently have, but rather your capacity to earn money. If the time you save cannoning is greater than the time you lose making money for cannonballs, then it's efficient to cannon.

I hear farming torstol is around ~500k-1m per run, and you could probably do multiple runs a day. But you wont earn 200m any time soon using the methods I said, but they are a stable income and I prefer them over the more risky methods of earning money. But have you ever considered trying the 'fast methods'? I don't really have enough experience with any of the other 'fast methods' of earning money to advise them to you (staking, gambling, etc). But your luck might be better than mine.

 

That's all I have, maybe somebody else could be more help to you. Good luck. :thumbsup:

Well I "know" a few them alright:

 

dks > need 96 summoning

tds > need turmoil/extremes to not get crashed

glacors > similar to tds

nex > need maxed stats

armadyl > need maxed ranging

corp > need overloads

 

But as you can see, I honestly have no idea how to jump the barrier between "basic outfit" and "95 pray, herblore & summoning". Actually, once I'd have jumped that gab you hardly NEED cash anymore - you can do just everything already, maybe 99 summoning might be a goal then, so that really made me wondering: why do people require those things in guides? Isn't that kind of silly, require things to have which you wish to earn through that?

 

If it helps in compassion, im in the EXACT same boat.

That's an interestingly incorrect interpretation of efficiency. It has nothing to do with how much money you currently have, but rather your capacity to earn money. If the time you save cannoning is greater than the time you lose making money for cannonballs, then it's efficient to cannon.

Problem is: the longer I play rs, the further (in time) I get from high slay/herb/prayer.. It seems the current pace simply isn't followable by a casual gamer anymore, and either I have to keep doing the same boring things untill I'm maxed or well.... little options if bones grow faster in price than I can earn money.

MMOs generally aren't the sort of games for 'casual gamers' because of how work-intensive they are. And it takes people a while sometimes to realize mmo's aren't their thing.

That's a weird and debateable statement you make there? Why can't an MMO aim for casual gamers? I by no means have any reason to go "fast" through everything, just as fast as possible but with my own playtime. By providing support for a stable growth you would have a great market of players who just like to see something build up over the years.

 

Actually I dare say that a game which deliberatelly focus on keeping people playing for as long as possible in a short period of time is unhealthy, and should be frowned upon. Instead I see MMO's as exactly the type of game which can activelly support long-staying players, who just wish to play every once in a while and slowly progress. Especially runescape, where you don't have to train fulltime to be "good".

What is entailed by 'casual gamer' in this case?

 

Time spent? Skill? Devotion? Or a mix of all three?

Especially runescape, where you don't have to train fulltime to be "good".

 

If that was the case, you wouldn't be having such an issue right now I'm guessing. You're complaining about repetitive tasks. Grinding. Do you know of any big-name mmorpg's that lack this element?

 

You're turning this into a philosophical debate and it's completely unnecessary. You've got your answer, the best ways to get cash for your level, the best ways to go about things. How to make cash with virtually no effort. There's not much else to tell you, especially if these methods provided to you upset you.

What people don't seem to realize it that at lower levels its supposed to take longer to make money. Don't think that it should just be given to you; you need to work for it. I worked for it back in the day, and honestly my methods of making money don't apply now. I did slayer, gathered sellable shit, a bunch of stuff that really doesn't work now. Hell I camped blue dragons for days on end in the Hero's guild basement. Obviously that doesn't work anymore. Life for mid/low high levels is tough right now, 'cause anything that's made specifically for them can easily be used by the high level players. In other words, good luck.

 

I'll throw out two things:

 

Dailies: Such as battlestaffs, unfinished broad arrows, and runes.

 

Rune runs as in going to the mages guild and buying fires, earths, and deaths. I also go to the pest control and buy those (1.3m/hr as of yesterday) and the mage bank thing in the wild (2.1m/hr as of yesterday). Note that the profit will fluctuate incredibly, but it should always be a profit, and it only takes like 3 minutes to do both of those shops.

 

Herb runs: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculators/Farming_herbs Use that to find the best profit and mix with xp.

Luck based:

Corp can be quite profitable in a mass CS or LS

Look on runescape's forums under "Teamwork" to find a clan that allows low levels.

I started off at 110 combat/super pots/piety corping in a mass and in a matter of months I had overloads/turmoil/bandos/arma/ect.

 

Solid constant income:

- You can also try training skills such as runecrafting, ATM Rcing natures can be up to 500k p/h if you use the graahk method at 44 rc.

- Hunting red chin's are extremely profitable now days because there is no bots and 1 red chin sells for up to 2k in the GE.

- My fav money making method is slayer & farming herbs every 70 mins.

 

If you have any questions about other methods of money making / Training / Boss hunting, ect. PM me and im sure we can work something out (: