Video Ads.

[Chameela]

As a F2Per I'm really annoyed by this, I make my money by mining Runite in the wild So I have to hop worlds, and every time I get a 20-30 Second video ad, What do you guys think about this?

 

- When was this added aswell, I haven't been active in a long time.

[Mercifull]

I thought MMG got rid of all the video ads when he became CEO? Not seen any myself thankfully. Video ads are the worst kinds of online advert.

Protip: Disable flash when playing RS.

[Chameela]

^ That's actually a Wonderful idea. I'm guessing it's because I'm F2P and your P2P so you're basically paying for the game and wouldn't recieve a Video ad, Thanks for the tip :)

[Jonanananas]

Does it stop the timer for hopping worlds? If yes, I can see how annoying it would be if not...what's the big deal?

 

I remember reading about maybe a month or 2 past, so it's not been around for too long.

[Arceus]

I have not observed such video ads in their natural habitat. I am playing on the official RuneScape client and have not modified anything.

 

Disabling Flash would be an extremely bad idea because it is (quasi-)against the rules, specifically "Advert Blocking."

 

And I won't object to video ads if free players are, to put it bluntly, treated like real people! When they were originally removed I was too new to be properly paying attention, but I don't think I would have wasted my time lobbying for that versus the other issues on the table.

[stevensda]

ive never seen video adds. but when i do swap worlds and am waiting for the timer this really loud really shitty music plays.

[Arceus]

You can turn the music off in the settings if it bothers you.

[Riptide Mage]

I have not observed such video ads in their natural habitat. I am playing on the official RuneScape client and have not modified anything.

 

Disabling Flash would be an extremely bad idea because it is (quasi-)against the rules, specifically "Advert Blocking."

 

And I won't object to video ads if free players are, to put it bluntly, treated like real people! When they were originally removed I was too new to be properly paying attention, but I don't think I would have wasted my time lobbying for that versus the other issues on the table.

 

In this day and age it is a terrible idea NOT to have flash disabled by default, whitelisting players as needed.

[Thus]

Ad block plus

 

I'm p2p anyway so whatever :/

[Mercifull]

Disabling flash (not adblock) would simply load a GIF advert in its place not against the rules

[Lukeaxx]

I actually agree with all ads (except pop-ups) for free to play users. Jagex is a company and they need to make money, they offer their F2P services free of charge for you, all you have to do is sit through this short video. Would you rather that or the entire game being a P2P game?

 

They need to make money somehow as a lot of money goes into server costs and maintenence, with free worlds being some of the highest used servers. They need to pay for these servers somehow, and because they aren't charging you a fee for using them, they make the money to maintain the servers (and back-up servers) through advertisement.

 

It's perfectly fair in my honest opinion.

[sees_all1]

Video ads while hopping worlds (and you're locked out of the game anyway) don't bother me. In fact, I'd love it if Jamflex got more money from my game play.

 

I'd just wish they'd advertise their game elsewhere, get more noobs in F2P.

[L2Pullout]

From what I've seen the ad actually locks you out of the game for a couple extra seconds (about 10) when you would have already been in.

[Lukeaxx]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

[sees_all1]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

Could just as easily be complaining about JaGEx going back on their word, or hypocrisy.

[Cow]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

From what I understand much of the annoyance at video ads stems from mod gerhard (paraphrasing) promising ftp no more video ads, as they were (are) really annoying and don't raise much revenue. Whatever happened to him..

I honestly have a hard time being outraged at this. If it plays while the world is changing, big deal, but if it plays after the countdown ends I can see why its frustrating. I might or might not use an adblocker on my ftp character.

[Lukeaxx]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

From what I understand much of the annoyance at video ads stems from mod gerhard (paraphrasing) promising ftp no more video ads, as they were (are) really annoying and don't raise much revenue. Whatever happened to him..

I honestly have a hard time being outraged at this. If it plays while the world is changing, big deal, but if it plays after the countdown ends I can see why its frustrating. I might or might not use an adblocker on my ftp character.

 

I do understand it's annoying, but I'm currently studying a degree in Video Game development, and part of that involves doing a business module to better understanding of the actual Video Game industry.

 

The main problem with MMOs is cost - Servers can be very expensive to run, and due to large quantity of active Runescape players they have large servers, with back-up servers to match. Advertisement is the only free for the user way to gain any revenue whatsoever from free to play games (for the purpose of this discussion it is best to class F2P as a seperate game as it requires servers of it's own). The only other ways utilised by MMOs are in game stores, such as selling items for real world money. I'm sure you'd prefer video ads to rich kids being able to kick everyones ass just because they can pay for it.

 

Mod MMG may have made a statement saying he planned to remove video ads, but how do we not know their accounts department worked out it would minimise profits. We need to remember that Video Games companies are much the same as all other companies, they must make profit, otherwise they will go bankrupt. To offer F2P without adverts or any other form of revenue would be financial suicide for Jagex, the only other alternative would be an in game market or to remove F2P, neither of these are a valid option and i'm sure when considering the alternatives, everyone would prefer Video Ads.

 

Ads, by single click or view ratio may not seem like much revenue but when thousands of people are seeing these adverts a day, the money that is made from them is a substantial amount - enough to allow Jagex to still make a profit and keep the business running, as well as paying staff, servers, licenses, technologies, overtimes, utilities and all the other costs with running a large scale MMO.

 

Yes, they are annoying - but they are an annoying nessecity in my eyes, and much better than any alternatives available. Jagex makes it clear that if you want to get rid of Ads, members do not recieve such ads and therefore you can subscribe to get rid of them, if you want to stick to F2p you should be more thankful they provide this service than compaining about the way they make their profits from it. After all, they do need to make a profit, otherwise they will go bankrupt, meaning no more runescape, and a lot of people out of work.

[Arceus]

Considering that I remember reading in Jagex's own words that the video advertisements bring in substantially more money, one begins to wonder at what stage all the ad revenue we bring it begins to merit more of a voice.

[EFG]

I honestly don't understand how someone can complain about being given the privelege of playing a game at no expense of their own.

[Chameela]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

 

 

*Facepalm*

 

Firstly noone is complaining. I simply stated that I found it to be Annoying, the Ads do pay for the F2Per's but it isn't needed since they have other Ads all around there Website. Oh and they aren't 10 Seconds, they range from 20 - 40 Seconds per World hop. Uhm yeah I for sure would Complain and I bet you would aswell. Also no need to write a novel about how much you agree with the Ads, Thanks.

[Reztral]

They should just stick with the banner ads.

[Hedgehog]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

 

 

*Facepalm*

 

Firstly noone is complaining. I simply stated that I found it to be Annoying, the Ads do pay for the F2Per's but it isn't needed since they have other Ads all around there Website. Oh and they aren't 10 Seconds, they range from 20 - 40 Seconds per World hop. Uhm yeah I for sure would Complain and I bet you would aswell. Also no need to write a novel about how much you agree with the Ads, Thanks.

Today my sister called me up because she needed help with her Spanish homework. The worksheet required her to fill in the missing part of a sentence using a hint. For one particular question, the hint was decir lo que te molesta (to say what bothers you). The answer, of course, was quejarse, or to complain.

 

So if you "stated that I found it to be Annoying", then you complained, because, well, that's what complaining is.

[EFG]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

 

 

*Facepalm*

 

Firstly noone is complaining. I simply stated that I found it to be Annoying, the Ads do pay for the F2Per's but it isn't needed since they have other Ads all around there Website. Oh and they aren't 10 Seconds, they range from 20 - 40 Seconds per World hop. Uhm yeah I for sure would Complain and I bet you would aswell. Also no need to write a novel about how much you agree with the Ads, Thanks.

Today my sister called me up because she needed help with her Spanish homework. The worksheet required her to fill in the missing part of a sentence using a hint. For one particular question, the hint was decir lo que te molesta (to say what bothers you). The answer, of course, was quejarse, or to complain.

 

So if you "stated that I found it to be Annoying", then you complained, because, well, that's what complaining is.

+10 internets to you.

[Lukeaxx]

So you all are complaining about an extra 10 seconds of waiting, which is what is providing you with free play?

 

If you don't like it, pay for it, but Jagex needs the money to pay for servers, staff and license - and people need to realise there is no such thing as a free game of this magnitude, there is always some form of payment. Wether it be having to look at adverts, or an actual monetary payment.

 

Stop complaining, you are getting F2P free of charge, all you need to do is watch an advert so Jagex can continue to afford servers, licenses, technology, staff etc.. (do you actually know the national average wage of a software programmer, particularly in a specialist role such as Video Game programming? It's a lot).

 

Remember Jagex is a business, and like all businesses the aim is to make a profit, without advertisements on free to play, they would have to cancel the service, otherwise it would cause them to lose profit and become bankrupt - it's expensive stuff running an MMORPG company y'know?

 

 

*Facepalm*

 

Firstly noone is complaining. I simply stated that I found it to be Annoying, the Ads do pay for the F2Per's but it isn't needed since they have other Ads all around there Website. Oh and they aren't 10 Seconds, they range from 20 - 40 Seconds per World hop. Uhm yeah I for sure would Complain and I bet you would aswell. Also no need to write a novel about how much you agree with the Ads, Thanks.

 

*Returned Facepalm*

 

1. Everybody is complaining, you are complaining about it being annoying, as is a lot of the people on this thread. I'm not going to write as much in this post as it is as simple as this - you are all compaining about given a game for no expense of your own.

 

2. The ads on the website do help play, but the video ads are there as they are the best form of revenue in advertisement. If you don't want to see ads, pay for the game - Jagex is a business and needs to make money. If they took ads out of the game, and provided a purely F2P without ads, they would go bankrupt and then you'd have no game whatsoever.

 

3. Yes the videos are 20-40 seconds per World Hop... but when hopping worlds, no matter if you are F2P or P2P you need to wait 20 seconds anyway, so therefore it is just an added 10-20 seconds. Those 10-20 seconds are your payment, as you have chosen that you do not want to pay in money.

 

4. I didn't write a novel, I wrote my points. Sorry for actually having a discussion and including meaningful points. I agree with the Ads because i'd rather there were Ads in F2P than no game at all.

 

 

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what I say or what you say. If you want to play F2P you have to live with Ads, if you can't possibly do that either buy membership or don't play.

[Den]

Soon there will be a new tick in the membership benefits page.

 

- No advertisements between changing worlds.

 

 

Doesn't effect me, but 10 seconds extra for players who don't pay doesn't bother me. They could make the ads last say 30 seconds max I guess. Up to them either way.