Solvent abuse

[Danabis]

 

 

Adrenaline is something that gets pumped through your blood when something is happening like being chaced it will make you run faster when you got the adrenaline pumping :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm aware of that, but it's a chemical being pumped into your blood nonetheless. Too much of anything can kill you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/me hides chocolate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No need to hide it. Eating enough grass could probably kill you.

[Lionheart_0]

 

 

Adrenaline is something that gets pumped through your blood when something is happening like being chaced it will make you run faster when you got the adrenaline pumping :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm aware of that, but it's a chemical being pumped into your blood nonetheless. Too much of anything can kill you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/me hides chocolate

 

 

 

*does same with tea and coffee*

[runesmithie]

 

 

 

Adrenaline is something that gets pumped through your blood when something is happening like being chaced it will make you run faster when you got the adrenaline pumping :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm aware of that, but it's a chemical being pumped into your blood nonetheless. Too much of anything can kill you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/me hides chocolate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No need to hide it. Eating enough grass could probably kill you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me of one of the bullets in a Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide pamphlet the SADD club put up around the school :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Deadly if inhaled

[knives669]

I know alot of people who do it. :x I think it's just really really stupid. I remember a guy I kinda know bought air duster... (the stuff you use to clean your keyboard) while we were on a school field trip. We went to a mall and we were all eating in a small pizza place when I saw him inhale a rather large amount of it. He started coughing really bad and he just passed out, his face landing right in his pizza. Everyone got really scared, mall security came down, and when he came to, his face was burned from the pizza. :P

[Mercifull]

yeh knives, quite a few ppl have been killed by "dust-off" in the last year from huffing.

[knives669]

yeh knives, quite a few ppl have been killed by "dust-off" in the last year from huffing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's just so stupid... It kinda strikes me as very very... desperate.

[stan18]

some people were sniffing hexane while we were doing a lab at school. They were a bit dozy afterwards :?

[Alduron]

 

If you are a user stop now while you can... before the drug stops you.

^^ Right from an 80's school educational video :D

 

 

 

*thinks back to the PSA he saw as a kid...*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shows egg at the camera...

 

 

 

"This is your brain"

 

 

 

Cracks egg into frying pan...

 

 

 

*this is your brain on drugs"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Classic... but a load of rubbish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps people that know more than you on this subject came up with quotes like that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How many times have you investigated a suspicious death in front of parents that just lost a child to drug use?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have investigated a few hundred violent/suspicious deaths and I can assure you that I have a better first hand account on the effects of drugs on the user and those around him/her than the average person that has posted on this thread especially the wiseguys that think this is all a big game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I have posted is based on personal knowledge and experience and I stand by what I said no matter how much it sounds like an 80s educational video :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

[Hannibal]

How many times have you investigated a suspicious death in front of parents that just lost a child to drug use?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How many people do you know who have used drugs and have no problems whatsoever?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know at least 20 such people, and I can assure you, they have better first-hand knowledge of what drugs can and can't do with you, and what you can and can't do with drugs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the record:

 

 

 

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  [*:oo8xashm]I don't do drugs myself.
   
   
   
  [*:oo8xashm]Whatever you do, don't try to get high on solvents. If you have to, then go to a clinic and use government-distributed stuff, and, especially if it's the first time you do drugs, use it in the neighbourhood of people who know what they're doing and when things are going wrong. That does not include your classmates.

[Rizla]

How many people do you know who have used drugs and have no problems whatsoever?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see one every time i look in the mirror, and i can honestly say the only "suspicious death" i have a chance of being involved in is from over indulging on chocolate based snacks after smoking a joint.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm well aware of the risks involved with smoking cannabis - i'm not going to argue against those facts - but i will say i disagree with the label of "drug user". People seem to have a tendency to lump in your once-weekly weed smoker with a smack head, with the reasoning "but it's all illegal, and a drug is a drug". Yes, a drug is a drug, but cannabis isn't in the same league as anything like coke, pills, speed, crack or heroin.

[Alduron]

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FYI - the term YOU is meant as a general toward anyone that uses drugs or feels drug use is ok... not just at the authors of the last two messages.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

**Warning Graphic Content**

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you are unlucky, you will have someone like me come to your home, or your friends place or some rundown alley where you tried to score a hit, and take pictures of your remains. Dying from an overdose is not a pretty picture (and from training I am told its not a pleasant experience)... dying from getting gunned down, or stabbed from a drug deal gone bad is not either...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will have a bunch of officers and crime lab folks stand over you, taking photographs (your 15 mins of fame I suppose :roll: ), collecting evidence, taking your fingerprints, placing you in a body bag and taking you down to the morque. For us, parts is parts...you are no longer a person you become an item... a nice way to end isnt it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the meantime some poor detective has to go tell your next of kin (usually mom/dad/spouse) that you were involved in an incident and did not survive. Ever think about how your drug use can affect those around you? You don't care you say, well that is a sign right there that the drug has started to consume you, because sane/non-users care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's an officers worst job to notify of a death, the family falls apart and starts to blame themselves after the denial period...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But what happens to you at the morque ... well we get to take more pictures of you, blood will be drawn, so will samples of urine, and stomach contents. You will be unclothed, washed and prepped for the autopsy. There will be people around wondering why you ended up like this while others will be happy that another one is off the streets... mind you while doing drugs does provide people like myself job security, we have plenty of things to keep us busy ;).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There will be lame jokes, talk about things that are still happening in the real world ... you know the ones you will no longer enjoy... and then there will be business as the Y incision is made, photographs need to be taken at every step of the way. The doctor will announce in a monotone fashion for the recording all the technical details of your body, ie weight of lungs, heart, brain, liver etc. Slicing and dicing is what we call it... small slivers or organs are preserved in vials for future toxicology examinations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then finally after cause of death is determined, all your organs which are now in a plastic bag will be dropped back into your open torso cavity (heck its not like you need em anymore...) the assistant will then do a rough sewing job to close of the Y incision and send you on your way to the funeral home...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we don't know who you are or if we need fingerprints for reference then I get to break your fingers to get my prints, palm and fingerprints (mind you that not all cases require me to break bones, but there are some that do)... depending on the condition of the body I may even have to cut off the hand to reconstruct it... anything for a print...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drugs consume you and destroy you on so many levels ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you grow up... this too will make sense to you...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

[Rizla]

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you deal with a lot of marijuana overdoses in your job?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, and just so you know, i'm perfectly "grown up" thanks. I live in a house of my own, drive my own car to work every day, pay my own bills, cook my own food and make my own decisions.

 

 

 

Aside from that, i don't live in a ghetto, which means my likeliness of getting 'capped' is pretty low. Also, seeing as my older brother is the person i buy my weed from, i'd say i don't really need to lose any sleep about him shooting me for the price of an 8th.

 

 

 

Your post sounds like the usual propaganda - that or a badly scripted episode of CSI.

 

 

 

Believe what you want, but not every person who smokes a spliff once a week is going to end up getting shot by a dealer when they're "scoring their next hit" as you put it. The more i read it the more it really does sound like a bad hollywood movie.

[Mercifull]

My friend OD'd on bog standard home pain killers.

 

 

 

Id like to know more stats on marijuana overdoses in comparison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drugs are obviously a problem and yes they can kill. But the term "drugs" is like an umbrella of so much other things. They vary from potent chemical toxins to a few sprigs of dried leaf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course I would say to people to stay away from drugs but im not going to lie to them. Generally you are NOT going to OD on weed for example so im not going to tell people that if they do much as toke on a joint being passed at a party that they are gonna die because thats just a lie. On the other hand i STRONGLY advise against drugs such as heronine, cocaine and solvent abuse because they can kill instantly as well as causing an addiction.

[Guest GhostRanger]

 

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you deal with a lot of marijuana overdoses in your job?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, and just so you know, i'm perfectly "grown up" thanks. I live in a house of my own, drive my own car to work every day, pay my own bills, cook my own food and make my own decisions.

 

 

 

Aside from that, i don't live in a ghetto, which means my likeliness of getting 'capped' is pretty low. Also, seeing as my older brother is the person i buy my weed from, i'd say i don't really need to lose any sleep about him shooting me for the price of an 8th.

 

 

 

Your post sounds like the usual propaganda - that or a badly scripted episode of CSI.

 

 

 

Believe what you want, but not every person who smokes a spliff once a week is going to end up getting shot by a dealer when they're "scoring their next hit" as you put it. The more i read it the more it really does sound like a bad hollywood movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My father has spent more than half of his life dealing with marijuana addicts as part of his job. I didn't read his post because that was small but I do know that marijuana causes a lot of harm to your body physically. You're an adult and you make your own decisions so I'm not going to lecture you or demean you in any way...but there are dangers to using marijuana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Merc: If you are serious about wanting statistics abuot marijuana OD'ing and such then I believe I can get some for you. (I don't know what they are...but I know that my father has them.)

[Danabis]

 

 

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you deal with a lot of marijuana overdoses in your job?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, and just so you know, i'm perfectly "grown up" thanks. I live in a house of my own, drive my own car to work every day, pay my own bills, cook my own food and make my own decisions.

 

 

 

Aside from that, i don't live in a ghetto, which means my likeliness of getting 'capped' is pretty low. Also, seeing as my older brother is the person i buy my weed from, i'd say i don't really need to lose any sleep about him shooting me for the price of an 8th.

 

 

 

Your post sounds like the usual propaganda - that or a badly scripted episode of CSI.

 

 

 

Believe what you want, but not every person who smokes a spliff once a week is going to end up getting shot by a dealer when they're "scoring their next hit" as you put it. The more i read it the more it really does sound like a bad hollywood movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My father has spent more than half of his life dealing with marijuana addicts as part of his job. I didn't read his post because that was small but I do know that marijuana causes a lot of harm to your body physically. You're an adult and you make your own decisions so I'm not going to lecture you or demean you in any way...but there are dangers to using marijuana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Merc: If you are serious about wanting statistics abuot marijuana OD'ing and such then I believe I can get some for you. (I don't know what they are...but I know that my father has them.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to see you get ANY statistics on a cannabis related death. I think there's maybe one case of it, and it's under dispute anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chucking a whitey != OD'ing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Info from http://www.erowid.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contraindications:

 

 

 

Avoid Driving - While there has been little formal study into the effects of cannabis on driving, it is generally a good idea to avoid driving while under the influence of any psychoactive or intoxicating substance. Several studies have shown that drivers who use alcohol and cannabis in combination are far less capable than when taking either substance alone. Some studies have shown that cannabis causes impairment in driving performance, but that users often are aware of the impairment and compensate by driving more carefully.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Addiction Potential:

 

 

 

Regular use of cannabis can lead to psychological habituation for some people making it difficult for them to quit. Studies have estimated that between 5 and 10% of those who try smoking cannabis will become daily users sometime during their life, but most of these smokers will have given up the habit by age 30 and few remain daily smokers after age 40. Most people do not experience signs of physical addiction, but with regular daily use use, mild to medium withdrawal symptoms usually occur for less than a week, but can extend for as long as 6 weeks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Long Term Health Problems:

 

 

 

The most common negative health impact of regular cannabis smoking are lung and throat problems including: coughing, increased frequency of throat and lung infections, and reduced lung capacity. There are concerns about possible long term carcinogenic (cancer causing) effects of cannabis smoking, but the results are still somewhat controversial. It can be safely said, however, that health risks increase with frequency and duration of smoking anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Poisoning:

 

 

 

There are no confirmed, published deaths from cannabis-only poisoning. There are a small number of people who report serious cannabis allergies which cause unexpectedly intense reactions, throat & lung irritation, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heart Issues:

 

 

 

Because cannabis increases heart rate, it could potentially increase risks of heart problems in those at risk of heart disease. One study found that cannabis use increased the risk of heart attack in men over 40, but its findings were weak and based on a very small number of individuals. In a large study of 65,000 individuals in California by Sidney et al in 1997, cannabis was not found to increase mortality rates among users under 50.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mental Illness:

 

 

 

Several studies have indicated that cannabis use (like many other strong psychoactives) can precipitate neuroses or psychoses in those who are already at risk. Studies have also shown that cannabis use does not appear to increase the risk of psychosis in otherwise healthy individuals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, there's a downside, and I'm not saying it is healthy. But you can guarantee I'm not going to die from smoking a spliff, with a smoking gun in my hand because I've shot my dealer to get my fix.

[Guest GhostRanger]

 

 

 

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you deal with a lot of marijuana overdoses in your job?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, and just so you know, i'm perfectly "grown up" thanks. I live in a house of my own, drive my own car to work every day, pay my own bills, cook my own food and make my own decisions.

 

 

 

Aside from that, i don't live in a ghetto, which means my likeliness of getting 'capped' is pretty low. Also, seeing as my older brother is the person i buy my weed from, i'd say i don't really need to lose any sleep about him shooting me for the price of an 8th.

 

 

 

Your post sounds like the usual propaganda - that or a badly scripted episode of CSI.

 

 

 

Believe what you want, but not every person who smokes a spliff once a week is going to end up getting shot by a dealer when they're "scoring their next hit" as you put it. The more i read it the more it really does sound like a bad hollywood movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My father has spent more than half of his life dealing with marijuana addicts as part of his job. I didn't read his post because that was small but I do know that marijuana causes a lot of harm to your body physically. You're an adult and you make your own decisions so I'm not going to lecture you or demean you in any way...but there are dangers to using marijuana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Merc: If you are serious about wanting statistics abuot marijuana OD'ing and such then I believe I can get some for you. (I don't know what they are...but I know that my father has them.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to see you get ANY statistics on a cannabis related death. I think there's maybe one case of it, and it's under dispute anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well I never said anything about death...but if you are curious there is a reason there are no cases of death caused by marijuana: it doesn't kill you. It does however completely destroy your immune system making other sicknesses much more dangerous than normal. I dno't have any statistics from where I'm at right now, but I will get you the information if you want it.

[Alduron]

 

*Looks up* Keep telling yourself you are fine and should you live another 5 years or so... think about what I wrote and I guarantee you, you will wish things were different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you deal with a lot of marijuana overdoses in your job?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, and just so you know, i'm perfectly "grown up" thanks. I live in a house of my own, drive my own car to work every day, pay my own bills, cook my own food and make my own decisions.

 

 

 

Aside from that, i don't live in a ghetto, which means my likeliness of getting 'capped' is pretty low. Also, seeing as my older brother is the person i buy my weed from, i'd say i don't really need to lose any sleep about him shooting me for the price of an 8th.

 

 

 

Your post sounds like the usual propaganda - that or a badly scripted episode of CSI.

 

 

 

Believe what you want, but not every person who smokes a spliff once a week is going to end up getting shot by a dealer when they're "scoring their next hit" as you put it. The more i read it the more it really does sound like a bad hollywood movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No the above does not sound like a badly scripted episode of CSI it is called "LIFE" and yes I have dealt with a lot of Marijuana related deaths in fact I would say most of my caseload is Marijuana based because it is a drug of choice and people have a lot of misconceptions about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The term drugs for the purpose of my use is any substance that is used to gain a euphoric feeling... from solvents, to prescription drugs cocaine etc. and while you may not immediately feel or become aware of negative effects of use all longterm use will damage and result in death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But aside from that there are so many ways in which you can harm yourself/result in a drug related death. Drug use is irresponsible behavior you can easily harm someone and just because you are a "adult" who has a home, does not exclude you from this. There are a lot of upper middle class people that do marijuana whose lifes/family are falling appart, who are faced with adverse health conditions due to their use or who are behind bars for causing the death of another due to their use and those are the lucky ones?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have worked a number of suicide cases where people leave notes explaining that they cannot go on, that life is beyond their control and they cannot hide from it... some of them kids whose parent tell us they never knew that there was a problem and had no idea their child used marijuana... so quit fooling yourself... quit buying into the few stories your friends may tell you... and listen to people like Ghost Rangers father.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have numbers for you, as its not what I deal with but I am sure our detectives have something I could get my hands on... I just know facts and that is just like the commercials say "drugs kill" it is said for a reason...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

[Danabis]

 

 

 

No the above does not sound like a badly scripted episode of CSI it is called "LIFE"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How inspirational. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who blames their death on cannabis is an idiot. If you're a responsible person you can enjoy it safely, it's just like alcohol. If you're an idiot it will affect and ruin your life, but just as well I'm not an idiot then isn't it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you compare the ED50 (amount of drug usually taken) to the LD50 (lethal dosage of a drug) of cannabis, it's one of the safest therapeutically active substances there is.

[Anesthesia]

I'd just like to add that wikipedia shows that there have been ZERO proven cases of cannabis causing death. There has been something like 2 disputed ones. The world over.

[rocketman089]

I'd just like to add that wikipedia shows that there have been ZERO proven cases of cannabis causing death. There has been something like 2 disputed ones. The world over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then you go and look at the cigarette related deaths from cancer (or is it cancer related from cigarettes? Oh well, you get it).

[Anesthesia]

Also I should add that when marijuana has been cited as a carcinogen and causing lung problems it is just as likely that tobacco has caused the problems as marijuana is generally mixed with tobacco for smoking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To say that marijuana CAUSED the death of the people you have 'investigated' is silly. Chemically you would have you be REALLY trying to die from it, much like dying from drinking too much water. If it's psychologically then its obviously not the sole cause.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't use it, by the way.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Also I should add that when marijuana has been cited as a carcinogen and causing lung problems it is just as likely that tobacco has caused the problems as marijuana is generally mixed with tobacco for smoking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To say that marijuana CAUSED the death of the people you have 'investigated' is silly. Chemically you would have you be REALLY trying to die from it, much like dying from drinking too much water. If it's psychologically then its obviously not the sole cause.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't use it, by the way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Still where I cannot access specific information, this is from the top of my head.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Smoking marijuana deposits 3-5 more tar in your lungs than smoking cigarettes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana takes approximately 30 days to leave your system...by then you've usually had another joint, so affects of withdrawl are rare.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like said before, marijuana does not directly cause your death. But neither does cigarettes. Marijuana does several things such as despositing tar in your lungs and breaking down your immune system. If your immune system is destroyed by marijuana, its not marijuana that kills you, its something like the flu.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is an interesting fact straight from my father's mouth. Take it however you will. In his 25+ years of working with addicts and such, he has never had a patient who will accept the dangers of using marijuana until they have been clean for at least four months. He said that being on the drug causes a 'marijuana fog' that makes your brain unwilling to accept what its doing to you. Once again, I don't really care if you believe that or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not chastising anyone for using marijuana, nor am I trying to preach about its dangers. But if there are going to be disputes about it, I figured I might as well post some facts I have. Don't flame me because I could care less if you want to tell me that my facts are "wrong."

[Anesthesia]

This is an interesting fact straight from my father's mouth. Take it however you will. In his 25+ years of working with addicts and such, he has never had a patient who will accept the dangers of using marijuana until they have been clean for at least four months. He said that being on the drug causes a 'marijuana fog' that makes your brain unwilling to accept what its doing to you. Once again, I don't really care if you believe that or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't use it, so my vision is not clouded by that fog. That's why I'm bothering to speak up, because I know I have a neutral point of view.

[knives669]

The only thing I really warn people about marijuana use is smoking it long term can cause many lung, mouth, and throat problems, and I really think it has different effects for everyone. The marijuana high is good and everything, but I quit smoking it because after the high, I would get terribly, terribly depressed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know alot of people who smoke marijuana. The school I go to has a HUGE drug problem. (School officials perform random drug testing to 30 random people four times each year.) Of that, 50% of the people I know who have smoked it have become addicted to it, and use it everyday. Most of this 50% have dropped out of school for fear of being drug tested, or have just lost all ambition to go to school. On the other hand, 50% of the users I know, are just fine, make good grades in school, and get along with everyone. But, I believe they smoke about once a week, if that much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana is addictive, but I think that the strength of that addiction depends on the person using it. I know people who have quit and struggled to remain clean, and I know people who had absolutely no problem quitting. In my case, quitting smoking was pretty difficult, mainly because at the time I was depressed and just wanted to get high to forget some of my problems. It got a bit easier after about a month, and I can say that I feel physically and mentally better having quit. I was not an everyday user. I probably smoked about once a week.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that if you smoke marijuana just to forget your problems, you run a bigger risk of becoming addicted, or running into other problems, such as mood swings, alienation from your friends, and loss of ambition. I personally believe that marijuana and depression are a bad combination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as other people smoking it, I don't care, as long as they are aware of the risks involved and know the facts. However, here in the US, marijuana use is illegal and I will not let a friend bring some weed into my car. I'm not willing to go to jail for someone else. :wink:

[Guest GhostRanger]

 

This is an interesting fact straight from my father's mouth. Take it however you will. In his 25+ years of working with addicts and such, he has never had a patient who will accept the dangers of using marijuana until they have been clean for at least four months. He said that being on the drug causes a 'marijuana fog' that makes your brain unwilling to accept what its doing to you. Once again, I don't really care if you believe that or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't use it, so my vision is not clouded by that fog. That's why I'm bothering to speak up, because I know I have a neutral point of view.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which is why your above point agrees with mine. I don't think marijuana can actually kill someone, but it can physically harm your body to let other things kill you. Also, I don't know what your point was, but marijuana does cause lung problems as it deposits more tar in your lungs than cigarettes.