Jump to content

Welcome to Rune Tips, the first ever RuneScape help site. We aim to offer skill guides, quest guides, maps, calculators, informative databases, tips, and much more to help you get the most from the Massive Online Adventure Game, RuneScape, by Jagex Ltd © 2009.

Report Ad

Welcome to Forum.Tip.It
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

dual, 2h, range and mage setup for max dps

Advice

  • Please log in to reply
49 replies to this topic

#1
khandajatt
[ Display Name History ]

khandajatt

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,121 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  • Joined:12 December 2008
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:iyaari
  • Clan:Rift
I have nvr tried eoc properly just messing around here and there nvr actually got a hang of it and imo dont really know much abt it either other than mobs weakness and stuff...so I was wondering if any of u can guide me on the setups of the above classes for best dps...I wanna know the armour setup and wat abilities I shuld use. Ill just test myself after n make a rotation if I can share with you all if needed. Also keep in mind money isnt a problem for me to get stuff but still give me alternatives to them if possible. Thanks for your help :)

Iyaari.png

comp-regular.png


#2
Quyneax
[ Display Name History ]

Quyneax

    Aes Sedai

  • Members
  • 11,297 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 November 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Mierin
Max dps: void, max crit bonus, Nex boots+gloves.

For ranged, dual ccbow or 2h zaryte. Murmur amulet, pernix boots+gloves, comp cape (or ava's alerter), imbued archer's ring.
For mage, dual virtus (wand+book) and 2h cstaff. Arcstream, virtus boots+gloves, comp cape (or mage arena cape), imbued seer's ring.

If you can't get imbued rings, get regular or 6th age circuit.
If you can't get Nex boots/gloves, any will do.
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

#3
MotherBrainII
[ Display Name History ]

MotherBrainII

    Bear Fur

  • Members
  • 260 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:18 December 2006
  • RuneScape Status:Retired
  • RSN:Ekarderif

2h zaryte


IIRC, the Royal Crossbow is just as good and costs about 3% of the price of a Zaryte.

#4
Quyneax
[ Display Name History ]

Quyneax

    Aes Sedai

  • Members
  • 11,297 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 November 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Mierin
Royal crossbow was a little worse last I checked, it is also more expensive to use. The difference is small, but the op did ask for highest dps.
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

#5
khandajatt
[ Display Name History ]

khandajatt

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,121 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  • Joined:12 December 2008
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:iyaari
  • Clan:Rift
Also I would like to know the abilities I shuld use for each class and im guess whisper is the best ammy for hightest meele crit bonus?

Iyaari.png

comp-regular.png


#6
Th e Doctor
[ Display Name History ]

Th e Doctor

    Demon Vanquisher

  • Members
  • 2,081 posts
  • Joined:25 October 2010

Also I would like to know the abilities I shuld use for each class and im guess whisper is the best ammy for hightest meele crit bonus?


Yes about the ammy, for range it's the murmur I believe, for mage its still the arcane stream. (4.4%, 4.4%, and 4.9% crit respectively)


Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3

Nex : 1 Zaryte Bow

Kalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword


#7
khandajatt
[ Display Name History ]

khandajatt

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,121 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  • Joined:12 December 2008
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:iyaari
  • Clan:Rift
Hmm wasnt there an ammy from sara for mage as well?

Iyaari.png

comp-regular.png


#8
xpx
[ Display Name History ]

xpx

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Estonia
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:xpx

Hmm wasnt there an ammy from sara for mage as well?

Yes and it's rubbish.

First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.

First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.

First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.


#9
khandajatt
[ Display Name History ]

khandajatt

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,121 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  • Joined:12 December 2008
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:iyaari
  • Clan:Rift
Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Iyaari.png

comp-regular.png


#10
xpx
[ Display Name History ]

xpx

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Estonia
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:xpx

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.

First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.

First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.


#11
jayc3399
[ Display Name History ]

jayc3399

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,618 posts


Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.


Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Archermanme.png
Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007

Iron_Archer.png

Items Acquired

Crystal Pick and Hatchet

Berzerker Ring x 3

3/28 Barrows Items


#12
xpx
[ Display Name History ]

xpx

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Estonia
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:xpx



Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.


Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).

First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.

First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.

First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.


#13
jayc3399
[ Display Name History ]

jayc3399

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,618 posts




Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.


Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).


DPS neglects attack speed so AA dmg is irrelevant. I don't remember what thread it was in but I'm pretty sure Quy proved the long& rapier are better.

For the accuracy I'd have to agree on that, although I thought it was in the update teasers thread of the screen shots of the HLF where they said the accuracy thing.

Archermanme.png
Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007

Iron_Archer.png

Items Acquired

Crystal Pick and Hatchet

Berzerker Ring x 3

3/28 Barrows Items


#14
Quest_Cape_K
[ Display Name History ]

Quest_Cape_K

    Scorpion Pit

  • Members
  • 528 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Joined:12 August 2009
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Quest Cape K
  • Clan:PvmDG




Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.


Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).

QBD has like 1 def, terrible to compare accuracy of items on her.


#15
Quyneax
[ Display Name History ]

Quyneax

    Aes Sedai

  • Members
  • 11,297 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 November 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Mierin
I don't recall proving that rapier and long are better. But they might be, idk, I don't remember everything (:().

Autattack damage is definitely not affected by speed though (not normalized like ability damage), and when you start attacking, you get a quick combo of auto > ability without the 1.8s global cooldown, so a stronger, slower weapon would be better (because you get those attacks 'free', one tick tops no matter your speed).

@QBD point: You can't really prove that the formula is wrong if you didn't log hits and misses (oh and mh separately) for a lot more weapons. The QBD may technically be without weakness, but that could as easily be wrong as the formula.
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

#16
xpx
[ Display Name History ]

xpx

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Estonia
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:xpx
Tested drygore mace along with off-hand bronze dagger. Noticed no difference in accuracy and the kill times were consistent with the loss of damage from off-hand. So yeah, i'm 90% sure it's only the main hand weapon that affects accuracy for abilities, thus rendering off-hand drygores little more than cosmetic items.

As for the damage part, fastest weapons have a chance of doing 2 auto-attacks when engaging into combat. Also, if you are really good at using abilities, 2.4 second weapons are fast enough to utilize auto-attacks for extra damage. And again, all the armor damage boosts(not void) give a larger increase for faster weapons.

QBD has like 1 def, terrible to compare accuracy of items on her.

You have gotten too used to drygore-scape. Both chaotic staff and royal crossbow miss quite alot on her.

First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.

First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.

First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.


#17
chenw
[ Display Name History ]

chenw

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,953 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Putting the Fiyr on the Pyre
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Tim ChenW2

Max dps: void, max crit bonus, Nex boots+gloves.

For ranged, dual ccbow or 2h zaryte. Murmur amulet, pernix boots+gloves, comp cape (or ava's alerter), imbued archer's ring.
For mage, dual virtus (wand+book) and 2h cstaff. Arcstream, virtus boots+gloves, comp cape (or mage arena cape), imbued seer's ring.

If you can't get imbued rings, get regular or 6th age circuit.
If you can't get Nex boots/gloves, any will do.


I thought you needed Void gloves for the void effect, or did I miss something very important along the way?

tim_chenw2.png
6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 Divination

Kiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)
Obby set renewed post update #2: 0

QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 Kits

Max Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd)

 

Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills.

 

Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h)


#18
khandajatt
[ Display Name History ]

khandajatt

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,121 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
  • Joined:12 December 2008
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:iyaari
  • Clan:Rift
Hmm I thought the same abt void...isnt it a FULL set effect?

Iyaari.png

comp-regular.png


#19
xpx
[ Display Name History ]

xpx

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Estonia
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:xpx
I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the infallible Q has faltered. She promises to be better next time, though.

First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.

First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.

First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015.


#20
Quyneax
[ Display Name History ]

Quyneax

    Aes Sedai

  • Members
  • 11,297 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 November 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Mierin
Right, my apologies :P. GWD chestplate and deflector for 1h max dps, not gloves.
Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions
99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)
99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)
99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)
99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)
99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)
Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring
Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace
30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Advice

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users