25-Mar-2013 - Wilderness Warbands

[Sylpheed]

I'm not even close to being maxed and I think the experience is rediculous. Whenever I'm on I do my daily bands with the 1% risk of being PKed.

 

The experience is great but it is quite obviously too much, and anyone who disagrees is quite frankly deluded.

[Bxpprod]

I'm not even close to being maxed and I think the experience is rediculous. Whenever I'm on I do my daily bands with the 1% risk of being PKed.

 

The experience is great but it is quite obviously too much, and anyone who disagrees is quite frankly deluded.

 

It is a reflection of a new-wave of Scapers who want xp over grind (whom Jagex will feed because player #s = money). It's also not one of the targeted ideas that were talked about in the original Botnuke era to address player centric (rather than Goldfarming) botting - which was often focused on the grind.

 

I'd go on to say that calling them delusional is a bit excessive. But that's another line of argument.

[Bxpprod]

I should add on though, this will eventually be cut down. Maybe not in the short term as has been "discussed" and "leaked", but eventually. The reasoning will be the same as we saw with effigies, "we don't want them [effigies/warbands/god knows what other stupid shit next] to be a better way to train the skill than doing the skill itself". But hey, if Jagex wants to give me a potential windfall of 132.8m xp/year for doing very little, then that's pretty ok with me.

[Fallstar]

As Jagex have shown time and time again, they have no concept of balance at all. Things get left for months/years in a ridiculously OP state and then nerfed into oblivion. Warbands will be the same. Even if the xp/hr @ 99 was reduced to around 300k, they would still be worth doing for skills like mining/smithing and possibly others, depending on your income/hr.

 

But no, our only choice is the current 900k-1.2M/hr ish rate, or the post nerf rate - which going by prior form, will give an entire experience point per warband.

 

As for people saying that those complaining are 'whining' well maybe they are. But aside from glitches, this is the single most lucrative increase in a skill's xp/hr ever. Mining went up by around 1100%. People [bleep]ed about effigies and they were less than 100% faster than the next best training method for RC. So we're literally an entire order of magnitude up in terms of how OP this is.

 

Someone should point out that warbands are faster xp/hr than buying spins. Should get them nerfed ASAP.

[kamil1210]

http://gyazo.com/2cc...148bae7fbbc0ebb

 

So, this is new pest control but for all skils. WarBand products!

 

BTW: It took 2 years to nerf pest control.

[Fallstar]

Warbands is for mining/smith/herb/cons/farm, not all skills.

[Bxpprod]

Warband PK's tracker website is down, so all their worlds are Cape ON. Should make it that tad bit safer for you unable to get into FCs but still able to follow people around.

 

And it's back

[Reliable]

 

Obviously not an exact confirmation, as we all know that "Dust Devils don't drop Dragon Chainbodies" (confirmed by numerous Jmods), but still interesting.

 

Also could be typical Jagex trickery where they don't lower the exp, just the frequency.

[Ammako]

10 days to go before 99 Herblore.

[Fallstar]

I wish they'd just decide whether they're going to nerf it or not. And if not, make a post somewhere saying "OK guys we decided not to nerf it". Would be nice to just know.

[Bxpprod]

I wish they'd just decide whether they're going to nerf it or not. And if not, make a post somewhere saying "OK guys we decided not to nerf it". Would be nice to just know.

 

Then, down the track, when they do nerf it because they realise - after 6-18 months of incredibly high xp - that it is in fact, somewhat overpowered, people will turn around and say:-

 

BUT YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T

W67 Fally Sq Riot

We pay we say we pay we say

They'll never win. I understand the issue of it being "in the air" (allegedly), but probably easier for them to deal with any potential fallout this way.

[aspeeder]

I'm not digging how the different chats set up by warband pk is making people who should be cooperating turn against eachother. Case in point, I was running back from ELM share and switched to the next world. Then, as I was approaching Edgeville attempting to get into the fc, someone clearly in that chat pked me. Also the pkers have gotten more brazen as the anti-pkers have grown too thin across multiple chats.

[Byzantus]

I'm not digging how the different chats set up by warband pk is making people who should be cooperating turn against eachother. Case in point, I was running back from ELM share and switched to the next world. Then, as I was approaching Edgeville attempting to get into the fc, someone clearly in that chat pked me. Also the pkers have gotten more brazen as the anti-pkers have grown too thin across multiple chats.

Their policy is 'kill all white dots', so it's kinda logical. Besides, it's the wilderniss, there will always be people trying to kill you, even if you're in the same chat :|

It sucks when it happens to you, but the xp is so huge because it was meant to be hard to get due to the pk'ers.

it still needs to be nerfed though.

[Quest_Cape_K]

I'm not digging how the different chats set up by warband pk is making people who should be cooperating turn against eachother. Case in point, I was running back from ELM share and switched to the next world. Then, as I was approaching Edgeville attempting to get into the fc, someone clearly in that chat pked me. Also the pkers have gotten more brazen as the anti-pkers have grown too thin across multiple chats.

Your fault for world hopping in the wilderness, world hop in a safe area and you will be fine. You hopped worlds and abandoned other people, you shouldn't have hopped in-case people needed help.

[aspeeder]

I'm not digging how the different chats set up by warband pk is making people who should be cooperating turn against eachother. Case in point, I was running back from ELM share and switched to the next world. Then, as I was approaching Edgeville attempting to get into the fc, someone clearly in that chat pked me. Also the pkers have gotten more brazen as the anti-pkers have grown too thin across multiple chats.

Your fault for world hopping in the wilderness, world hop in a safe area and you will be fine. You hopped worlds and abandoned other people, you shouldn't have hopped in-case people needed help.

The policy is that if you can't find a taxi then you should world hop before running back to edge, as its likely that pkers set up camp just south of the most recent world to get easy kills. Also, to above, I know that it's just frustrating with how many chats there are that even though I clearly had the setup almost everyone has for warbands I was still considered a threat a few squares from Edgeville when the warbands hadn't started. Lesson learned, I will go more west or east rather than charge as a white dot straight into the thick of the group, the size and disorganization is simply becoming apparent.

[Bxpprod]

Switch to a free world

Run to lvl 20

HT to Edge

Hop back to P2P

[Cheat]

I hope they nerf warbands once I've got 99 mining the xp is sort of ridiculous. If you do it right you get 15k Prayer xp, 5k Slayer xp, and 100k xp in one of the skills all for about 5 minutes 'work'.

[Urza285]

I think delusional fits right. I also feel that jagex has a decent balancing concept. It's obviously not the greatest, but there is another issue people feel the need to pair with their balancing.

 

Jagex has an issue with foreseeing meta-game usage of content rolling out. They simply only look down a handful of avenues when 'balancing' content. Often they are completely excluding things for the sake of avoiding abuse. With jagex coming out with so much content it actually surprises me I didn't think this might be a legitimate reason why they outright exclude most things. One example is the effect of farming jujus not being able to be used with the new seeds apparently. They stated in their FAQ they didn't want people abusing it (not like it was much xp anyways).

[Tansuo]

I hope they nerf warbands once I've got 99 mining the xp is sort of ridiculous. If you do it right you get 15k Prayer xp, 5k Slayer xp, and 100k xp in one of the skills all for about 5 minutes 'work'.

 

Yeah I too hope they nerf stuff as soon as I'm done with it. Totally fair right? right?! If they're going to nerf warbands, they aren't going to conveniently time it, they will just do it whenever they please - without warning.

[Bxpprod]

I hope they nerf warbands once I've got 99 mining the xp is sort of ridiculous. If you do it right you get 15k Prayer xp, 5k Slayer xp, and 100k xp in one of the skills all for about 5 minutes 'work'.

 

Yeah I too hope they nerf stuff as soon as I'm done with it. Totally fair right? right?! If they're going to nerf warbands, they aren't going to conveniently time it, they will just do it whenever they please - without warning.

 

They are going to do it the day after Mishionary gets 99 Mining and I post everywhere "this is why warbands are OP as [bleep]" and reveal my inventory full (lies, <28 to be fair) of ores mined to 99. (I am of course the only person that matters so they will take not of me and me alone).

 

THEN we shall have a glorious nerf in which case it is still probably going to be more efficient to Warband than mine anyway.

[Ammako]

Switch to a free world

Run to lvl 20

HT to Edge

Hop back to P2P

I thought you couldn't teleport at all when you had Warbands resources on you?

[Cheat]

Only in p2p though to be honest unless there is someone on my friends list in a f2p world who I can quick hop to I find that doing so saves like no time.

[aspeeder]

More about the safety than the time to me, but like I said I can just run a bit east or west of the main gathering place to avoid being killed by the fc I can't enter.

[Aiel]

I just hop to 48. Never seen any pkers there.

[Fallstar]

There's been pkers at the rift to CT in 48 most of today. But avoid that spot should be fine.