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hey jellyfish, let's look at your post here for a second please...

yeh but firstly u understood it and secondly y wen i find it quicker to type it tht way and everyone understands it areu complaning about it? admittdly this arcticle was well written and the author has done a good job but maybe there is a more worth while writing about then complaining about the way some people type

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cries at the massacre of my beloved english*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

missing a letter now and then is alright, but when you consistently spell it wrong, it gets more annoying and tougher to read!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw, how old are you?? because i would be amazed if you were anything over, say, 10(this is a 14-year old speaking though).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've honestly found that the kids who have terrible grammar, also have poor manners, and are completely immature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take this situation from only 2 days ago, when i was killing some blue dragons, when a level 93 guy, with full red dragonhide, a magic shotbow, and a archers helm walks in. I simply registered him as another player who probably worked off a large part of his hindparts to get that stuff, when he suddenly bellows"stfu noobs 1 pwnz teh dragonz!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well good lord.With his grammer and attitude, i can scarcley give him the benefit of the doubt that he is anything over the age of 12. I really perceive this players as children hacking away at a keyboard!(btw, he continued talking like this for more then 15 minutes, generally acting like the football players at my school, dumb and immature)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People who cut corners are okay, as long as it's sparingly and it actually makes stuff easier to read/write.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do it too, sometimes!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and there friends, is the end of my big rant!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and zonorhc, you missed the apostrophe in your heading for "it's"(if this has already been said, then shoot me, i only read the first and last page)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Nadams

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dude, u have it pretty wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

omg liek i dont nede 2 typ proprly cus dis is da internet !!!! go away nerd looser

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

omg-way shorter to type than oh my god

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

liek- a common mistake i make it alot while trying to type something quickly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i-everyone knows what this means....i'm not sure why we capitalize it in the first place

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dont-again the ' in this case does not really make a difference

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nede- another typing mistake everyone makes them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2- perhaps not really helpful but still by even milliseconds it is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

typ- a missed letter [he must be trying to type it fast enough before you ran away?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

proprly- maybe his "e" key is not working? nah, but seriouly big deal i misspell words all da time -__-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cus- much quicker than becuase+ less prone to mistakes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dis & da- i think they sound kool and they do take 1 less letter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

go away nerd- an insult everyone gets mad sometimes nothing wrong with that, you dont have to take it, you dont have to read what they say! ignore them, dont pay attention otherwise you being that little 2nd grader that gets upset when he's teased, and you say they r the children

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

looser- the finger stayed on the key too long BIG DEAL you're not even sopposed to be reading this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ppl make mistakes....and by writing this your not ganna change anything + i think ppl can type the way they want, just ike we can talk and write and think the way we want. this is the same as if someone was talking to you with really bad slang, its their culture in a way, you cant change that!

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hey jellyfish, let's look at your post here for a second please...
yeh but firstly u understood it and secondly y wen i find it quicker to type it tht way and everyone understands it areu complaning about it? admittdly this arcticle was well written and the author has done a good job but maybe there is a more worth while writing about then complaining about the way some people type

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cries at the massacre of my beloved english*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw' date=' how old are you?? because i would be amazed if you were anything over, say, 10(this is a 14-year old speaking though).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've honestly found that the kids who have terrible grammar, also have poor manners, and are completely immature.[/quote']

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The following is somewhat based on the article above and was put together by three thirteen-year old boys (it contains every abbreviation we could fit in, just to piss you all off)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1stly id like 2 start out by emphasizing the fact that were al 13! if i remember sumtin, nadams wuz sayin that hed b suprised if jelyfishpoo wuz over 10. 2ndly, i wanna say that i agre wit jelyfishpoo in every way possible! 3rdly, tht this isnt english class, and im also 2 lazy 2 typ the wrds out. o, did i mention everytin btwen? also, al of us r xtremly matur, we al r...wot els wuz in tha articl? o ya...we al have perfect typin grades. just so u no, i agre tht tha kid u quoted wuz bing meen, bt, ther wuz nutin rong wit him spelin like dat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o and, nadams wot wuz that in ur last paragraf? cud it b a lwrcse i and an abv. 4 bi da way? btw? also, if ur so obsessed wit the "massacre of ur langueage", u shud no that u dont need a - after da 14 in 14 yr. old. gosh!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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AFK

 

 

 

AIM

 

 

 

ASAP

 

 

 

A/S/L

 

 

 

ATM As far as I know

 

 

 

Away from computer keyboard (for wireless users)

 

 

 

AOL Instant Messenger; also verb for FTP'ing files via AIM

 

 

 

As soon as possible

 

 

 

Age/Sex/Location

 

 

 

At the moment [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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BBS

 

 

 

BC

 

 

 

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Back

 

 

 

Be back soon

 

 

 

Because

 

 

 

Be Seein' You

 

 

 

Bye for now

 

 

 

Big grin

 

 

 

But I could be wrong

 

 

 

Be my guest

 

 

 

Be right back

 

 

 

But then again

 

 

 

By the way [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

C CFN

 

 

 

CID

 

 

 

CUL or CUL8R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ciao for now

 

 

 

Consider it done

 

 

 

See you later

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D DYOH

 

 

 

DQMOT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do your own homework

 

 

 

Don't quote me on this [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E EOM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

End of message

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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FWIW

 

 

 

FYI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frequently asked questions

 

 

 

For what it's worth

 

 

 

For your information [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

G GL

 

 

 

GMTA

 

 

 

GRA

 

 

 

GW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck

 

 

 

Great minds think alike

 

 

 

Go right ahead

 

 

 

Good work [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi there

 

 

 

Hope this helps [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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IAE

 

 

 

IDK

 

 

 

IIRC

 

 

 

IM

 

 

 

IMHO

 

 

 

IMO

 

 

 

IMPOV

 

 

 

IMS

 

 

 

IOW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In any case

 

 

 

In any event

 

 

 

I don't know

 

 

 

If I recall correctly

 

 

 

Instant message

 

 

 

In my humble opinion

 

 

 

In my opinion

 

 

 

In my point of view

 

 

 

I am sorry

 

 

 

In other words [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J JIC

 

 

 

JK

 

 

 

JTLYK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just in case

 

 

 

Just kidding

 

 

 

Just to let you know [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

K K

 

 

 

KIS

 

 

 

Okay

 

 

 

Keep it simple [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

L L8R

 

 

 

LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Later

 

 

 

Laughing out loud

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

N NBD

 

 

 

NP

 

 

 

NRN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No big deal

 

 

 

No problem

 

 

 

No response necessary [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

O OH

 

 

 

OIC

 

 

 

OTOH

 

 

 

OTP

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off hand

 

 

 

Oh I see

 

 

 

On the other hand

 

 

 

On the phone [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P PLS

 

 

 

PLZ

 

 

 

POC

 

 

 

POV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please

 

 

 

Please

 

 

 

Point of contact

 

 

 

Point of view [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

R ROTFL

 

 

 

RSN

 

 

 

RUOK?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rolling on the floor laughing

 

 

 

Real soon now

 

 

 

Are you okay?

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

S SYS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See you soon

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

T TAFN

 

 

 

TBA

 

 

 

TBH

 

 

 

THX

 

 

 

TIA

 

 

 

TTFN

 

 

 

TTYL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's all for now

 

 

 

To be announced

 

 

 

To be honest

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

Ta ta for now

 

 

 

Talk to you later

 

 

 

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You are welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hope all that wuz helpful 4 all u guys who cant understand wot we ppl wit sence say...

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hey jellyfish, let's look at your post here for a second please...
yeh but firstly u understood it and secondly y wen i find it quicker to type it tht way and everyone understands it areu complaning about it? admittdly this arcticle was well written and the author has done a good job but maybe there is a more worth while writing about then complaining about the way some people type

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cries at the massacre of my beloved english*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw' date=' how old are you?? because i would be amazed if you were anything over, say, 10(this is a 14-year old speaking though).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've honestly found that the kids who have terrible grammar, also have poor manners, and are completely immature.[/quote']

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The following is somewhat based on the article above and was put together by three thirteen-year old boys (it contains every abbreviation we could fit in, just to piss you all off)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1stly id like 2 start out by emphasizing the fact that were al 13! if i remember sumtin, nadams wuz sayin that hed b suprised if jelyfishpoo wuz over 10. 2ndly, i wanna say that i agre wit jelyfishpoo in every way possible! 3rdly, tht this isnt english class, and im also 2 lazy 2 typ the wrds out. o, did i mention everytin btwen? also, al of us r xtremly matur, we al r...wot els wuz in tha articl? o ya...we al have perfect typin grades. just so u no, i agre tht tha kid u quoted wuz bing meen, bt, ther wuz nutin rong wit him spelin like dat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o and, nadams wot wuz that in ur last paragraf? cud it b a lwrcse i and an abv. 4 bi da way? btw? also, if ur so obsessed wit the "massacre of ur langueage", u shud no that u dont need a - after da 14 in 14 yr. old. gosh!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now, 2 quote another person...DARKHIVE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dude, u have it pretty wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

omg liek i dont nede 2 typ proprly cus dis is da internet !!!! go away nerd looser

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

omg-way shorter to type than oh my god

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

liek- a common mistake i make it alot while trying to type something quickly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i-everyone knows what this means....i'm not sure why we capitalize it in the first place

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dont-again the ' in this case does not really make a difference

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nede- another typing mistake everyone makes them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2- perhaps not really helpful but still by even milliseconds it is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

typ- a missed letter [he must be trying to type it fast enough before you ran away?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

proprly- maybe his "e" key is not working? nah, but seriouly big deal i misspell words all da time -__-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cus- much quicker than becuase+ less prone to mistakes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dis & da- i think they sound kool and they do take 1 less letter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

go away nerd- an insult everyone gets mad sometimes nothing wrong with that, you dont have to take it, you dont have to read what they say! ignore them, dont pay attention otherwise you being that little 2nd grader that gets upset when he's teased, and you say they r the children

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

looser- the finger stayed on the key too long BIG DEAL you're not even sopposed to be reading this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ppl make mistakes....and by writing this your not ganna change anything + i think ppl can type the way they want, just ike we can talk and write and think the way we want. this is the same as if someone was talking to you with really bad slang, its their culture in a way, you cant change that!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Hope u like the foloin:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Acronym

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meaning

 

 

 

A AFAIK

 

 

 

AFK

 

 

 

AIM

 

 

 

ASAP

 

 

 

A/S/L

 

 

 

ATM As far as I know

 

 

 

Away from computer keyboard (for wireless users)

 

 

 

AOL Instant Messenger; also verb for FTP'ing files via AIM

 

 

 

As soon as possible

 

 

 

Age/Sex/Location

 

 

 

At the moment [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

B B

 

 

 

BBS

 

 

 

BC

 

 

 

BCNU

 

 

 

BFN

 

 

 

BG

 

 

 

BICBW

 

 

 

BMG

 

 

 

BRB

 

 

 

BTA

 

 

 

BTW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back

 

 

 

Be back soon

 

 

 

Because

 

 

 

Be Seein' You

 

 

 

Bye for now

 

 

 

Big grin

 

 

 

But I could be wrong

 

 

 

Be my guest

 

 

 

Be right back

 

 

 

But then again

 

 

 

By the way [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

C CFN

 

 

 

CID

 

 

 

CUL or CUL8R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ciao for now

 

 

 

Consider it done

 

 

 

See you later

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D DYOH

 

 

 

DQMOT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do your own homework

 

 

 

Don't quote me on this [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E EOM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

End of message

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F FAQ

 

 

 

FWIW

 

 

 

FYI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frequently asked questions

 

 

 

For what it's worth

 

 

 

For your information [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

G GL

 

 

 

GMTA

 

 

 

GRA

 

 

 

GW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck

 

 

 

Great minds think alike

 

 

 

Go right ahead

 

 

 

Good work [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

H HT

 

 

 

HTH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi there

 

 

 

Hope this helps [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I IAC

 

 

 

IAE

 

 

 

IDK

 

 

 

IIRC

 

 

 

IM

 

 

 

IMHO

 

 

 

IMO

 

 

 

IMPOV

 

 

 

IMS

 

 

 

IOW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In any case

 

 

 

In any event

 

 

 

I don't know

 

 

 

If I recall correctly

 

 

 

Instant message

 

 

 

In my humble opinion

 

 

 

In my opinion

 

 

 

In my point of view

 

 

 

I am sorry

 

 

 

In other words [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J JIC

 

 

 

JK

 

 

 

JTLYK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just in case

 

 

 

Just kidding

 

 

 

Just to let you know [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

K K

 

 

 

KIS

 

 

 

Okay

 

 

 

Keep it simple [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

L L8R

 

 

 

LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Later

 

 

 

Laughing out loud

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

N NBD

 

 

 

NP

 

 

 

NRN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No big deal

 

 

 

No problem

 

 

 

No response necessary [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

O OH

 

 

 

OIC

 

 

 

OTOH

 

 

 

OTP

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off hand

 

 

 

Oh I see

 

 

 

On the other hand

 

 

 

On the phone [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P PLS

 

 

 

PLZ

 

 

 

POC

 

 

 

POV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please

 

 

 

Please

 

 

 

Point of contact

 

 

 

Point of view [top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

R ROTFL

 

 

 

RSN

 

 

 

RUOK?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rolling on the floor laughing

 

 

 

Real soon now

 

 

 

Are you okay?

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

S SYS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See you soon

 

 

 

[top]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

T TAFN

 

 

 

TBA

 

 

 

TBH

 

 

 

THX

 

 

 

TIA

 

 

 

TTFN

 

 

 

TTYL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's all for now

 

 

 

To be announced

 

 

 

To be honest

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

Ta ta for now

 

 

 

Talk to you later

 

 

 

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hope all that wuz helpful 4 all u guys who cant understand wot we ppl wit sence say...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and therz the end of MY rant! its longer than urs, nadams!

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My friend and I were having an argument about this for the past month. I agree with you that typing with correct grammar and spelling is important. You rule.

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i agree these people are idiotsand the people who say dumb things like i dont have to type good because its the internet deserve to be kiked in the teeth because they do it jst because they think there cool. i dont mind the ocasional misspelling or people selling rune pl8 but the people who constantly use it r just 10 year olds who have no friends or the kids who sit in the front of the school bus when there seniors and talk to the bus driver

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ill say this again:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i would like to say that i disagree with the article as this is the sort of thing that lead to the formation of the english language in the first place> english is a mongrel language and a large proportion has been formed from shortening words from other languages. the use of shorthand on the internet is just a natural evolution of english and you cannot claim to be protecting it by standing against its evolution.it is exactly this sort of shorthand that has made english the greatest, largest and most versitile language on the planet and im all for it increasing its vocabulary!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

id also like to say that punctuation was not introduced untill printing was invented so by your standards for being a purist you shouldnt use that at all and we should all go back to using "thys" and such.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you truly believe in english you will encorage itsgrowth instead of standing in the way of every new word and ajustment of it. this is why there is a new dictionary brought out every year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the flexability of the language can only be maintained through constant evolution and change and if you know your history you would know that this sort of thing has been happening for centuarys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those who try to stop the flow of evolution, in any form, will be washed away in its path!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "Goodbye!" human race. We stop the flow of evolution all over, by letting those with weak traits who would normally die live. We change normal evolution and make it to what we want - via selective breeding, amongst other things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you truly believe in english you will encorage itsgrowth instead of standing in the way of every new word and ajustment of it. this is why there is a new dictionary brought out every year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the flexability of the language can only be maintained through constant evolution and change and if you know your history you would know that this sort of thing has been happening for centuarys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We aren't opposed to English evolving and growing. We're opposed to people who can do better doing worse - which is making things harder to do.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. If there's one thing that irritates me, it's having to translate a bunch of acronyms in order to understand a simple english sentence. It actually takes me longer to type in shorthand than it does to type like someone with an IQ above 60. Rock on.

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Is this the best article you guys can come up with? Seriously, bothering to rant on something of this caliber just seems like an attempt to insult a lot of people for no good reason. Let people talk how they want, if that bothers you that much, youre going to have a lot more difficult problems in your life when you get to stuff thats actually important.

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I would have to disagree partly with that article

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes typing such as 'leet' is stupidly over the top, but in given circumstances there is nothing wrong with tradtional internet shorthand

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

such as 'tht' 'u' 'r'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as for the typing 'habit' points. I again find this to be total garbage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99% of posts I make on forums, and messages I send over msn I use internet slang like u etc

 

 

 

But my school coursework, letters to relatives, and books that I type are all in perfectly correct english.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is not a matter of habit it is a matter of knowing when it is appropriate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean the same goes for speech, would you judge someone because they speak in slang when with friends? they can easily switch to formal english or whatever for adults, bosses and such like

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not think it is all down to habit it is a matter of choice and context.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean if you look elsewhere on these forums you will find my normal internet slang posts within about five seconds, but as show here and in other serious posts I make, such as giving crit on media disscussion I use full englihs perfectly fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my view if you overly judge people by suhc a trival thing as internet slang (this is a generalisation cause extreme cases such as 'leet' I can see) I would say you are too judgmental a person, as that is like judging a book bys its cover.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean would you think less of a englihs speaking frnehc person because they pronouce it ze instead of the (sterotypical one there but w/e)

 

 

 

Would you think less of a person from newcastle for using aii as its part of thier accent?

 

 

 

Would you judge people from norfolk for using shew instead of showed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some of the points picked up by this article are trivial points that are all part of language and its constant evolution and adapatability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I say whats wrong with some light internet slang, as long as its readable whats wrong with plz, ty, np, u, r, tht and such like?

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I've always enjoyed Zon's posts on these boards and one of the main reasons was because of his manipulation of the English language.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You really are clever and charismatic in what you write and this article is no different. A great read!

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Koen, don't get offended man! The difference between you and the people Zon criticises (IMO) is that you're making a strong, conscious effort to type English as well as you can, which is pretty damn good considering it's not your native language!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's not criticising dyslexics, nor foreigners, he's criticising those who have a fine grasp of the language but choose to ignore it in order to look "cool" or to simply just annoy, for example: 1337 speak talkers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, that's the impression I got anyway.

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I have to say that I am one of the few remaining people in the world to use Standard English when typing on the internet or in text messages etc. Yet, I can't help but find that the views expressed in this article were perhaps very one sided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find myself replying to people that I talk to, especially within runescape, with a very confused "?". I then probably get a similar reply when they can't seem to understand my lack of understanding...so to speak. Yet being an A level English Language student myself I know the value of this new "form" of language.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This so called text speak can be seen as a natural progression in our world of busy busy people and an increased limit on what we can say. The author of this very article himself mentioned that he was confined to a word limit and that is one explination for the emergance of this shorthand confusion we all are subjected to. Also, more than 2000 years ago some of the most advanced civilisations, such as the Egyptians, used single symbols to express their language in a written form, perhaps this is the destiantion for our language?.....or maybe not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nevertheless, I agree the excuse "We're not in an English classroom" is probably not even an excuse at all. That kind of Language would be at home in an English classroom. This new development in language may be an annoying one yet it is important to weigh up all the opinions. As much as I am an advocate for standard grammar and a wide array of lexical choice I think its important to keep an open mind and respect everyones choices and freedoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So this is my first and hopefully not my last post on the vast tip.it forums and i hope i didn't go on for too long, but for those who read all the way through then thankyou for your time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S I apologise in advance for any incorrect spellings :D l8r.

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LONDON, England (Reuters) -- An English essay written by a British teenager in text messaging short-hand has reignited concern among teachers that literacy standards are under threat. The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported Monday that the 13-year-old's teacher could not decipher what the youngster had written.

 

 

 

"I could not believe what I was seeing. The page was riddled with hieroglyphics, many of which I simply could not translate," the teacher told the newspaper.

 

 

 

The girl's essay began: "My smmr hols wr CWOT. B4, we used 2go2 NY 2C my bro, his GF & thr 3 :- kids FTF. ILNY, it's a gr8 plc."

 

 

 

Which in translation from text messaging shorthand would read: "My summer holidays were a complete waste of time. Before, we used to go to New York to see my brother, his girlfriend and their three screaming kids face to face. I love New York. It's a great place."

 

 

 

Judith Gillespie, of the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, told the newspaper a decline in grammar and written English was partly linked to the text messaging craze.

 

 

 

"Pupils think orally and write phonetically," she said.

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Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I needed that (and it also forced me to admit my own failings :oops: ).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very well written as well!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Congrats, once again you have reached deep into the recesses of our gaming subculture and pulled out another nasty habit.

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I am so happy to read stuff like this - it reminds me that there are people that want to enjoy their online time and not have to deal with typing that is often impossible to decipher. Aside from making the person who types in mumbles seem rather ignorant, it is downright annoying. On RS I generally put people that type that way on my ignore list just so i'm not distracted - and many times i've wanted to suggest that until they complete grade school level communication their time would be better spent learning something useful (like spelling) rather than playing something.

 

 

 

There are many adults and intelligent teens that play RS and it amazes me that so many people are there rather than learning to communicate - since typing in mumbles tends to indicate they've got a whole lot of learning to do.

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o and, nadams wot wuz that in ur last paragraf? cud it b a lwrcse i and an abv. 4 bi da way? btw? also, if ur so obsessed wit the "massacre of ur langueage", u shud no that u dont need a - after da 14 in 14 yr. old. gosh!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moron, try reading my whole post, watch this, extracted directly from my earlier post(i've been gone all day at my girlfriend's b-day party):

 

 

 

People who cut corners are okay, as long as it's sparingly and it actually makes stuff easier to read/write.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do it too, sometimes!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

try learning to read AND write the english language now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now time for one more quote!

 

 

 

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LONDON, England (Reuters) -- An English essay written by a British teenager in text messaging short-hand has reignited concern among teachers that literacy standards are under threat. The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported Monday that the 13-year-old's teacher could not decipher what the youngster had written.

 

 

 

"I could not believe what I was seeing. The page was riddled with hieroglyphics, many of which I simply could not translate," the teacher told the newspaper.

 

 

 

The girl's essay began: "My smmr hols wr CWOT. B4, we used 2go2 NY 2C my bro, his GF & thr 3 :- kids FTF. ILNY, it's a gr8 plc."

 

 

 

Which in translation from text messaging shorthand would read: "My summer holidays were a complete waste of time. Before, we used to go to New York to see my brother, his girlfriend and their three screaming kids face to face. I love New York. It's a great place."

 

 

 

Judith Gillespie, of the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, told the newspaper a decline in grammar and written English was partly linked to the text messaging craze.

 

 

 

"Pupils think orally and write phonetically," she said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*giggle*. owned. :twisted:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if it means that all my friends around me are becoming dumb, or if it means all the british kids are getting dumb...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*giggle*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Nadams

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Its about time sombody took the time to adress the issue of lazy typers playing runescape, and infecting our youth with poor typing habits. Seriously, the worst I ever do is occasionally type "hey u!" or try typing "Im trying to get the money for a whip and obby shield" and end up with "iy tring to get the moey for awhip and ob bysh ield" :lol: But i would really like if people would start taking the time to type in proper english. :twisted:

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The flipside of this, of course, is the way your clique views you. Strangely enough, some groups I have encountered during my time on the internet find it in poor taste to type properly, because it does not fit in with their subculture of ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Ånon-conformistsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

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Years ago we had this discussion about "black English" in the education/linguistic community. If it were designated as its own language, it would achieve a certain status, as would its speakers. If it were designated a dialect of English, it would confer an aura of inferiority on its speakers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This dichotomy is silly. People are very able to learn more than one dialect, as well as more than one language, and to move between the two when the social situation demands it. We do it all the time without even being aware of it. Whatcha got? Howzit goin? Jew gedit? These are socially acceptable non-standard forms of spoken English that we use in the appropriate social context without batting an eye.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suspect that 1337, or whatever it is called as I am new to the teen on-line world (nothing like a pre-teen son to make it relevant to a 48-year-old) developed because of the limited input/output capabilities of chat programs. (I find myself going crazy in chat rooms, not because of the "codes", but because my typing can't keep up with my thoughts.) But the more that 1337 gains the disapproval of the "elders" of the Runescape community, the more it is going to be used by teens as a sign of distinguishing themselves from you. I think that's a shame, because I think they have a lot to learn from us, more than just proper English, which they won't learn if we can't get past this communication issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a 21-year-old daughter who is about to graduate from my state college's honor program, who uses abbreviations appropriately in on-line chat, and standard English in all her schoolwork. I have no problem with my 12-year-old son using it either, and I intend to learn it so I can communicate with his friends and make them feel comfortable. The crime, to me, is in not choosing the dialect that facilitates the communication. If you speak to me in standard English, I will reply in standard English, and if you speak to me in 1337, well, I'll do my best. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fantastic article, and very true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for those of you who think it's a joke, and your typing doesn't matter, and you can type well whenever you need to, well, you're wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This past semester at school (sophomore in college) I had a business teacher actually sit our class down and scold us for our email typing. She said that she has never seen such horrible english skills in a class before, and it seems to be getting worse and worse each year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact is, you need to be a good typer if you hope to be successful some day. Whether you think so or not, it is a necessity. The internet is the world today, it's how we all communicate. The way you represent yourself, is the way that bosses, teachers, associates, etc. will all look at you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't be the dumb guy (or girl). Be the smart one, try your best to type properly all the time, it will definitely come in handy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Such a fantastic article, I had to join the forums just to put in my two cents.

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LONDON, England (Reuters) -- An English essay written by a British teenager in text messaging short-hand has reignited concern among teachers that literacy standards are under threat. The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported Monday that the 13-year-old's teacher could not decipher what the youngster had written.

 

 

 

"I could not believe what I was seeing. The page was riddled with hieroglyphics, many of which I simply could not translate," the teacher told the newspaper.

 

 

 

The girl's essay began: "My smmr hols wr CWOT. B4, we used 2go2 NY 2C my bro, his GF & thr 3 :- kids FTF. ILNY, it's a gr8 plc."

 

 

 

Which in translation from text messaging shorthand would read: "My summer holidays were a complete waste of time. Before, we used to go to New York to see my brother, his girlfriend and their three screaming kids face to face. I love New York. It's a great place."

 

 

 

Judith Gillespie, of the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, told the newspaper a decline in grammar and written English was partly linked to the text messaging craze.

 

 

 

"Pupils think orally and write phonetically," she said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and i thought my writing was bad even i had trouble reading that bring back did you know great article though

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