I don't know who termed it, but the term "yew noob" or "yewb" fits perfectly for many characters. Every time I try to chop down yew trees, there are several level 3 or 4 characters also chopping. My suggestion is to simply ban all characters with level 60+ in 1 skill, but with a combat level of less than 10.

 

 

 

The reason is, that character is most likely used just as an autoer, and thus should be banned because it's REALLY hard to chop yew trees when there are 5 or 6 level 3 choppers felling them before you can get 3 logs.

 

 

 

Additionally, if it is a real person playing and not an autoer, chances are 99% likely that this is his secondary account, perhaps his "mining only" account. So, all he does is mine on that account, and then trade the ores to his main account, where he gets great smithing. I've heard of people doing this to take a level 3 into the wild to mine rune with less chance of being PK'ed. But, this also is against the rules and thus should be banned.

 

 

 

Therefore, any character with a combat level which is like 1/20 as high as one skill, and only one skill is high, should be banned, because they're either an autoer or a multiple accounter. Leave the high level mining and chopping to people who actually play the game themselves and follow the rules!

Nah, too harsh on real players, but i agree that ALOT more should be done against auters. Also i've never heard of yew noobs or yewbs, where did you hear them?

you cant ban people for "most likely" being an autoer just because they have low combat and high skills. they might be autoing, they might be legit players that create skill pures. you dont ban people based on guesses

This is a bad idea, your just generalising people.

 

 

 

Plus it would be easy to get round, how hard is it to get to level 10? takes like 10 minutes if that.

 

 

 

Your suggestion would solve nothing, perhaps you should think before you post stupid ideas.

Although autoers are annoying, banning all skill pures would be REALLY wrong. they do NOTHING against the rules, and should not be banned for not liking to train combat. by your logic, all pures should be banned too, since they most likely drop traded too. and, while were at it, why not ban all normal players too. they ought to have sweared AT LEAST once in there runescape career, so lets just simply ban everyone!

 

then jagex can delete this stupid game nobody likes and introduce there new official game....... Flea Circus!!!!! Yeah!! I know y'all love flea circus!

NO...that would kill the whole point of pure skillers! i mean, look at zzzamorak. he has almost all non-combat skills in the 40's+ and has 2 90's+ i think. he has not autoed. why should people like him get banned? just cuase you dont' like it? no, the answer to this question is to get better auto/micro detection systems installed

thanks for the constructive criticism.

 

 

 

that's sarcasm if you don't realize.

 

 

 

Please, don't be hatin. I don't want this topic to get locked after a few hours for so many flames.

 

 

 

First, I suggested banning people who ONLY have 1 skill developed. This is based on the assumption that people are people -- you WILL get bored if you only work on one skill and that's it. If one skill is 60-90, and all other skills are less than 5, the chance is only like 1 in a 1000 that it's a real person, not an autoer or person with multiple accounts. If all you do is one skill on the game all the time... maybe you should be banned, and go outside and do something else. No offense.

 

 

 

And, it IS against the rules to have multiple accounts. If you don't like it, don't play the game. Jagex owns the game, they make the rules. You're the one who agreed to the rules when you signed up. I don't know how many people they really ban for multiple accounts, drop trading to other accounts, or whatever, and I'm not saying they should ban everyone who breaks any rule any time.

 

 

 

However, I do think that secondary accounts, if they get really strong in one skill, make it unfair, IF you do free trading between accounts. If your accounts never interact, my personal opinion is that it isn't all that bad.

 

 

 

Plus it would be easy to get round, how hard is it to get to level 10? takes like 10 minutes if that.

 

 

 

Have you been chopping yews southwest of Falador lately in the free worlds? If there's any amount of people on, there's going to be several level 3's and 4's chopping. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a level 85 combat and compete with level 3 combat but level 60+ woodcutting for yew logs? Yes, my original post was one that was posted in frustration, but

 

 

 

** I only posted an idea, a general guideline **

 

 

 

Maybe it should've gone in the rant section, but I for one would be verrrry happy if Jagex enacted it as it is anyway. Maybe they can alter it some, I'm not the CEO there, but I think it's a good idea.

 

 

 

And you know what, if you don't like it, your favorite band stinks and your political ideals are all wrong :). Seriously, this is why I rarely post on message boards, cause it so often degrades to "you're stupid" as a certain someone said.... Can't we have an intelligent conversation? Oh, and posting only 3 sentances is proof that someone didn't think before posting, moreso than a couple people disagreeing with what you post.

 

 

 

I heard the term "yewb" from someone else who was actually a real person chopping yews with me one time.

And, it IS against the rules to have multiple accounts. If you don't like it, don't play the game. Jagex owns the game, they make the rules. You're the one who agreed to the rules when you signed up. I don't know how many people they really ban for multiple accounts, drop trading to other accounts, or whatever, and I'm not saying they should ban everyone who breaks any rule any time.

 

sorry to break it to ya, but you CAN have more than one accoutn as long as they do not interact. so again your wrong....there are also skill pures that only raise 1 skill like fishing wcing and merchant pures(not really a skill is it?) so that won't work either. and like some else said you can get to lvl 10 combat in like 20 min max...

OK, someone else posted between my hitting "reply" and actually typing out and posting the reply, so I want to make one thing clear:

 

 

 

Anyone who thought I said to ban all people with low combat but high non-combat skills is an idiot! No offense, but I said

 

 

 

ban all characters with level 60+ in 1 skill, but with a combat level of less than 10.

 

 

 

I also said later

 

Therefore, any character with a combat level which is like 1/20 as high as one skill, and only one skill is high, should be banned

 

 

 

Thus, if you reply to a post without reading it fully, I think you're an idiot. Again, no offense.

 

 

 

I said ONE SKILL is really really high, not all non-combat skills.

 

 

 

For all those who thought I said to ban all people with low combat but high non-combat skills, PLEASE read my original post and my previous post, because you apparently didn't read them to begin with. I'd appreciate it.

 

 

 

And by low combat... Again, what did I say before? I said "1/20" (probably should've been 1/10, but that's ok). Anyone who can do math will realize that, if your one and only skill that's above like 5 is at say 99, then 1/20 of 99 is about 5. Again, please read before you post. Sheesh.

I have a better idea: Let Jagex's detection systems do the work instead of your divine judgement.

tourniquet, youre still missing the point. you cannot ASSUME that a skill pure is breaking a rule. what you are proposing is a runescape version of racial profiling. its like arresting every muslim or arabian person on the assumption that they are a terrorist.

 

 

 

working towards a goal is not boring. its the very reason why someone will do the same thing for hours. it takes a level 85 the same amount of trees to chop from 1 to 60 as a level 3. same thing with mining or fishing or any other non-combat skill. your combat level has NOTHING to do with how well you get yew logs. nobody cares about your frustration. you cant compete with the level 3's on yews because your wc level is lower than theirs. thats not a reason to hate them. what about combat pures that never level any skills. are you going to assume that as humans they will get bored killing monsters over and over and so assume it must be a macro?

 

 

 

this suggestion needs to be dumped

You cannot just ban people that fit the criteria you've listed. I know people who have started pure wcers, which I think is a waste of time, but that's beside the point. Why should there accounts be banned for only training one skill? If your idea were to be implemented, alot of honest players would lose their accounts.

 

 

 

I agree there are far too many blatant macroers, but mass banning accounts with no evidence is not the answer.

 

 

 

Here's an idea that I think could help cut down on the macroing scurge, limit the number of new accounts that can be made from one ip address to once a week. I don't see why any legitimate player would object to that.

 

 

 

All these autoers that are cutting yews nonstop are being made by the same people, who are just selling the logs, then selling runescape gp for cold hard cash irl. In order for their scheme to work, they have to make hundreds of accounts to do the dirty work round the clock. If they could only create one account per week, it would slow their cheating process down to a crawl, and possibly make it so slow as to be a fruitless endeavor.

There are alot of lvl 3 legit wc, i have talked to many of them, Ive been cutting yews for 3 months and when i started there was a huge autoing problem, now theres nothing, i think jagex is doing a great job

As said above, there are many legit pure skillers.

 

 

 

IMO, we need to adopt the Wikipedia philosophy of "assume good faith". :)

I'd agree with all the people above me. Jagex has a detection system in place. Are there autoing yewbs? Yes. Are there legit yew noobs? Yes. Should we ban them all and hope for the best? NO.

 

 

 

Do I like answering my own questions? Of course.

Yeah, you need proof before banning. Not like it hasn't stopped them though...

 

 

 

Anyway, I love my skill pure, I play him more than my main since I left members.

There are some extreme cases where people play on end on just one skill. Just ban autoers and Runescape accounts with the same IP as the autoer.

that is such a stupid idea lol

 

Think of all the innocent people that would get banned. People like you should get banned for posting such crappy ideas :)

 

Just because someone is lvl 3 and 85 mining does't mean that are auto-miners. Many people do it for fun as it is funny seeing lvl 3's cutting more wood then you and getting all your ores lol.

 

 

 

Anyway i thought jagex has a full-proof system that can easily detect autominers. So why are you worrying, this system is probably banning cheaters as we speak, so leave it to jagex :)

Five or six level threes is the exact same thing as five or six level 100's. I dont quite see your point. If they are autoers, Jagex will ban them.

 

 

 

(Just because theres not a mass ban posted on front pages doesnt mean people arent getting banned EVERY day)

Do a little research before you post about your solution to autoers, to many big mistakes in you main suggestion/ replies.

I think this is kind of a bad suggestion. Think carefully what your trying to bring up. Maybe just because you dont have a second account that can wc yews doesnt mean you can banned ppl you called "yewb". Besides i only see it in nonmember worlds, Nonmember doesnt really matters that much. And cut willows if you have to, nonmember is a free world, they survive by selling yews so don't be to harsh on poor people. :)

I think we should ban everyone OVER lvl 10 with a skill 60+ just because they've probably done SOMETHIng wrong since they have started playing.... I think this is about the worst idea i've ever heard, just because people are under lvl 10 and have 60+ wcing dosen't mean there autoers :roll:

The autoers should be banned but no power noobs there wicked theres nothing better then a lvl 3 cutting yews everyone gets jealous :)

 

 

 

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Dear Hmtourniquet,

 

 

 

We regret to inform you that your account has been banned for using offensive language.

 

We have not received any actual complaints about your offensive language, but our recent studies show that most people above lvl 80 combat has used offensive language at least once. Since you are now lvl 85 combat we suspect you have used offensive language more than once, and your account is therefore permanently banned.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Mod Banhappy

 

RuneScape Customer Support

 

 

 

 

Have you ever hear of benefit of the doubt? Most people would not agree with a rule that allowed innocent people to get punished, the way you suggested.

 

 

 

Also, you should not assume that every low level with somewhat high skills are an autoer. In a recent poll, 9% or about 6000 people answered that they have a skill pure, i.e. a character that just train non combat skills. That accounts for a lot of the low combat pures you see around runescape.

 

And if you argue that every low level that don't auto just trades between accounts instead, you would have to ban everyone who has some kind of pure, both non combat or combat. And that would be about half the people who play runescape.

 

 

 

Keep in mind that this is an open ended game, with no set winning conditions. You don't "win" the game when you get all skills to 99, or when you get 100 mil, or when you beat every quest.

 

Everyone who play this game plays because they think it is fun, but that doesn't mean they share your particular goals for the game. Maybe you play to get a high combat level, or to kill other people, or to get rich. Others might play to chat with people, and skills like fishing or woodcutting is perfect for just that.

 

Some even play just to level one particular skill, like woodcutting, just to get high in the highscores. And it doesn't even have to be a money making skill, people do it with skills like agility or firemaking too.

With all due respect, ignorance was the only word I could think of. And I hope this pointless discussion will come to an end soon no matter what.

 

 

 

My main is Combat Level 85, moderate skill profile. I have 3 other accounts (pures) too. I never trade anything among them. And I never use anything other than my hands / fingers / mouse & keyboard to play this game.

 

 

 

Now, just 1 more thing I wanna say to you - more than that would be a waste of time: I'd love to training a Mining 85+ pure, with Combat Level 3. You know what that is? That's persistence and Wilderness survival strategy. If you feel unhappy, report and try to ban me as you wish, but what rule did I break - If I just mine rune ores and never trade to my other accounts?

 

 

 

LOL