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[Evadek]

Becoming an Undead anything is a good idea. They have the most useful racial in the game (Will of the Forsaken).

 

 

 

Also, Gnomes probably make the best warriors. Yes, I said it...Gnomes. Their racial (escape artist) is a God-send.

 

 

 

Gnomes make terrible warriors in PvE end game content.

 

They have a shortened hit length so they have to get closer to the hit box on large bosses in order to hit them. This ruins the Line of Sight issues with the rest of the raid and can cause a wipe because of it. This can easily be noted on Firemaw, Flamegor, and Chromaggus.

 

On alliance night elves make the best tanks and on horde taurens make the best tanks.

 

 

 

However gnomes aren't half bad warriors in PvP

 

 

 

Taurens are the best race for their classes imo. War stomp is a life saver.

[donutjunkie]

Becoming an Undead anything is a good idea. They have the most useful racial in the game (Will of the Forsaken).

 

 

 

Also, Gnomes probably make the best warriors. Yes, I said it...Gnomes. Their racial (escape artist) is a God-send.

 

 

 

Gnomes make terrible warriors in PvE end game content.

 

They have a shortened hit length so they have to get closer to the hit box on large bosses in order to hit them. This ruins the Line of Sight issues with the rest of the raid and can cause a wipe because of it. This can easily be noted on Firemaw, Flamegor, and Chromaggus.

 

On alliance night elves make the best tanks and on horde taurens make the best tanks.

 

 

 

However gnomes aren't half bad warriors in PvP

 

 

 

Taurens are the best race for their classes imo. War stomp is a life saver.

 

how long does warstomp last, wouldnt being undead also be good coz they breath underwater 3 times as long and they can eat wat they kill

[BlueTear]

 

Gnomes make terrible warriors in PvE end game content.

 

They have a shortened hit length so they have to get closer to the hit box on large bosses in order to hit them. This ruins the Line of Sight issues with the rest of the raid and can cause a wipe because of it. This can easily be noted on Firemaw, Flamegor, and Chromaggus.

 

On alliance night elves make the best tanks and on horde taurens make the best tanks.

 

 

 

Hmz... We used a gnome MT on those three bosses the first times we downed them, and apart from the fact that the whole LoS-healing concept took a while for the healers to figure out, we didn't have any major problems. Using a night elf now though, "the walking wrath helm's" computer broke.

[Randol20]

I dont have WoW yet but i wanna know if its worth the price.

[Lionheart_0]

I dont have WoW yet but i wanna know if its worth the price.

Read this whole thread, then gain what you think.

[donutjunkie]

I dont have WoW yet but i wanna know if its worth the price.

Read this whole thread, then gain what you think.

 

yeh can all of u who ask a question read the entire thread to see if it hasnt already been answered.

 

ok for any lvl 60 mages, in a 1 on 1 situation what spells would u use to defeat ur enemy and in what order, just so i know what to make better using my talents.

[Riku3220]

ok... since nobody knows how arcane is special in any way i guess i'll use fire if im by myself and frost if im with a group

[nicrune007]

yeah 0.1 is very important... if you casting time was 3 and oppent weapon speed is 3 too... 0.1 helps youspell from slowing... but that you have to be lucky.

 

 

 

Dun think arcane is good\

 

 

 

From the looks of Talents... arcane talents does not really help to incrase damage or stun. But it helps for non damageing spells.

 

 

 

Fire talent... You will constantly damage opponet... ignithing him always, increaseing vulnarability . high damage

 

 

 

Frost talent , stunn and slows alot and quite high critical if you you have to fight an opponent for a long time...

 

so basically spec in frost for croud control and fire for damage.

 

at the moment my setup is this:

 

Frost bolt enemy

 

fireball enemy

 

arcane missile

 

fireblast

 

blizzard

 

repeat

 

 

 

no..

 

Polymorph

 

frostbolt

 

fireblast

 

frost nova

 

cone of cold

 

forstbolt

 

y polymorph first????

 

i dont have cone of cold

 

 

 

speccing out in frost now, wat will be the best attack spell with frost? frostbolt or sumthin else?

 

 

 

By sheeping the enemy first.. you will get some time to get to a good distance and cast without worries , the next spell you cast after polymorph

 

can also use pyroblast ( 6 sec i think ).

 

 

 

If you polymorph after damaging enemy , you will be helping the enemy to heal rapidly, not a good idea.

 

 

 

best frost spell is probably frost bolt , you can slow enemy , run to a safe distance and cast again.

 

maybe u try , ice armour effect, then cone of cold , run away , when he gets nearer , ice nova , run

 

 

 

Oh , and warstomp last for 1 sec.. bascally its use is to interrupt spell casting.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh btw : helm of wrath looks like ultraman

[donutjunkie]

yeah 0.1 is very important... if you casting time was 3 and oppent weapon speed is 3 too... 0.1 helps youspell from slowing... but that you have to be lucky.

 

 

 

Dun think arcane is good\

 

 

 

From the looks of Talents... arcane talents does not really help to incrase damage or stun. But it helps for non damageing spells.

 

 

 

Fire talent... You will constantly damage opponet... ignithing him always, increaseing vulnarability . high damage

 

 

 

Frost talent , stunn and slows alot and quite high critical if you you have to fight an opponent for a long time...

 

so basically spec in frost for croud control and fire for damage.

 

at the moment my setup is this:

 

Frost bolt enemy

 

fireball enemy

 

arcane missile

 

fireblast

 

blizzard

 

repeat

 

 

 

no..

 

Polymorph

 

frostbolt

 

fireblast

 

frost nova

 

cone of cold

 

forstbolt

 

y polymorph first????

 

i dont have cone of cold

 

 

 

speccing out in frost now, wat will be the best attack spell with frost? frostbolt or sumthin else?

 

 

 

By sheeping the enemy first.. you will get some time to get to a good distance and cast without worries , the next spell you cast after polymorph

 

can also use pyroblast ( 6 sec i think ).

 

 

 

If you polymorph after damaging enemy , you will be helping the enemy to heal rapidly, not a good idea.

 

 

 

best frost spell is probably frost bolt , you can slow enemy , run to a safe distance and cast again.

 

maybe u try , ice armour effect, then cone of cold , run away , when he gets nearer , ice nova , run

 

 

 

Oh , and warstomp last for 1 sec.. bascally its use is to interrupt spell casting.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh btw : helm of wrath looks like ultraman

 

ok that makes sense, u polymorph so they stay in basically the same area instead of walking further towards u and realising ur their ur walking away.

 

this is what im thinking of spending my talents points on

 

 

 

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RZZVVGIsftAo

 

is there anything in there that i should do because is useless?

 

what should i spend the extra points on?

 

is it worth going into fire or arcane a little?

 

what does the winter chill thing actually do?

[nicrune007]

is there anything in there that i should do because is useless?

 

what should i spend the extra points on?

 

is it worth going into fire or arcane a little?

 

what does the winter chill thing actually do?

 

 

 

Winter chill :

 

When you cast any frost spell.. a 5/5 winter chill will give you 100% of

 

increasing frost crit by 2 for 15 sec.

 

Can stack up to 5 times.

 

 

 

EXample:

 

frostbolt--------normal crit

 

frostbolt--------2%

 

frost nova--------4%

 

cone of cold--------6% -- 15 sec effect starts from here ( if you cast the next spell before 15 sec )

 

 

 

can stack 2 more times

 

 

 

 

 

For your talent thingy .

 

 

 

remove talents from frost channeling... ice block , ice barrier

 

Spent any 5 points on the 1st section of arcane

 

then put 5 points on arcane concentration... Clearcast is important

 

 

 

remove improved blizzard , put the last 4 on Impact (fire)

[donutjunkie]

is there anything in there that i should do because is useless?

 

what should i spend the extra points on?

 

is it worth going into fire or arcane a little?

 

what does the winter chill thing actually do?

 

 

 

Winter chill :

 

When you cast any frost spell.. a 5/5 winter chill will give you 100% of

 

increasing frost crit by 2 for 15 sec.

 

Can stack up to 5 times.

 

 

 

EXample:

 

frostbolt--------normal crit

 

frostbolt--------2%

 

frost nova--------4%

 

cone of cold--------6% -- 15 sec effect starts from here ( if you cast the next spell before 15 sec )

 

 

 

can stack 2 more times

 

 

 

 

 

For your talent thingy .

 

 

 

remove talents from frost channeling... ice block , ice barrier

 

Spent any 5 points on the 1st section of arcane

 

then put 5 points on arcane concentration... Clearcast is important

 

 

 

remove improved blizzard , put the last 4 on Impact (fire)

 

ok ill try and put that into a build, is winter chill any good?

[donutjunkie]

ok im gonna go as a warrior next, what race is best for the class? i thought it was dwarf, someone said it was a gnome because of their escape artist ability, someone also said night elves were best. so what is best?

 

I'd also like to have mining and blacksmithing as my professions

[nicrune007]

OMG STICK TO YOUR MAGE!!!

 

 

 

Anyway... best race for warrior... try tauran, nightelf

 

 

 

 

 

Oh.. winter chill is good if you fight an enemy for a long time

[Foooman]

ok im gonna go as a warrior next, what race is best for the class? i thought it was dwarf, someone said it was a gnome because of their escape artist ability, someone also said night elves were best. so what is best?

 

I'd also like to have mining and blacksmithing as my professions

 

 

 

For PvP:

 

Undead: Will of the Forsaken - Removes Fear/Seduce - A God send vs Warlocks

 

Tauren: War Stomp - .5 second stun - Really good escape tactic

 

Orc: Hardiness - 25% Resist to all stun effects - Ver nice vs Rogues

 

Human: Perception - Increases stealth detection for a small amount of time - lets you see rogues from a mile away.

 

Gnome: Escape Artist - removes immobilizing effects - Removes frost nova and nets in BGs. good for chasing.

 

 

 

For PvE:

 

Night Elves: tallest alliance race and largest hit length. Best for tanking in end game.

 

Tauren: 5% increase in total health, more health = more good.

 

 

 

Just pick the race that best suits you. But, in my opinion the real fun in the game begins at 60. So stick with a character and play it all the way to 60.

[donutjunkie]

ill make a dwarf hunter, coz i can =)

[Evadek]

Becoming an Undead anything is a good idea. They have the most useful racial in the game (Will of the Forsaken).

 

 

 

Also, Gnomes probably make the best warriors. Yes, I said it...Gnomes. Their racial (escape artist) is a God-send.

 

 

 

Gnomes make terrible warriors in PvE end game content.

 

They have a shortened hit length so they have to get closer to the hit box on large bosses in order to hit them. This ruins the Line of Sight issues with the rest of the raid and can cause a wipe because of it. This can easily be noted on Firemaw, Flamegor, and Chromaggus.

 

On alliance night elves make the best tanks and on horde taurens make the best tanks.

 

 

 

However gnomes aren't half bad warriors in PvP

 

 

 

Taurens are the best race for their classes imo. War stomp is a life saver.

 

how long does warstomp last, wouldnt being undead also be good coz they breath underwater 3 times as long and they can eat wat they kill

 

 

 

no

 

 

 

lol

[nicrune007]

ill make a dwarf hunter, coz i can =)

 

 

 

No... night elf hunter...

 

they can stealth right? so aimed shot while stealthed will be good..

 

 

 

and stick to one class for god's sake

[donutjunkie]

ill make a dwarf hunter, coz i can =)

 

 

 

No... night elf hunter...

 

they can stealth right? so aimed shot while stealthed will be good..

 

 

 

and stick to one class for god's sake

 

that'd take the fun out of it

 

talent spec for hunters?

[nicrune007]

not really sure.. but if you wannt train lvl.. i think talent on pet is better

[Fat_Slug]

ok here is my hunter: she's 59(and staying there hehe) so if she ever gets 60 has the last talent to go in mend pet.

 

you can get full best talented and still fit in aimed shot

 

[nicrune007]

why arcane shot? its is really good?

[Fat_Slug]

i personally use arcane as well as the stings, but some like elementals are immune to stings.

 

so i put it in arcane so it'll hit those hard(they seem to damage me alot)

[Uldric]

It also depends on what your going to be focusing on most, pvp or end game raids.

 

 

 

If you don't like the way your char is setup, you can always send some money to change your talents so it doesn't really matter in the long run.

 

 

 

Haven't tried arcane shot before, I usually stick with stings and aimed shot. In pvp, frost trap followed by hm and all the other jazz, then get in a aimed shot (specially when it's a crit) is pretty nice.

 

 

 

Myself, I've only focused on marksmanship and some survival and only some points in improved aspect of the hawk from beast mastery. Again, it's all up to your preference so choose what you seems to be down your alley.

[nicrune007]

i personally use arcane as well as the stings, but some like elementals are immune to stings.

 

so i put it in arcane so it'll hit those hard(they seem to damage me alot)

 

 

 

try wearing mages clothing for spells and arcane...

 

then wield the best magic dmg staff you can get

 

my lvll 43 Warlock had like +190 shadow damage...

 

but then hunter with cloth?!?

 

you arcane shot will be so deadly then.

 

 

 

oh elementals are abit more powerful then normal monster... they got good resistance and immunity i think

[donutjunkie]

i finally have a pet!

 

another question, what pet should i get?

 

i figured tanking pets are better than attacking ones but should i get a bear or a boar or what?