[blather... blather... blather]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Updated List of F2P Items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

 

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (2)

 

 

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

 

 

Bow (1)

 

 

 

Arrows of several sorts (3

 

 

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

 

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (4)

 

 

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (10)

 

 

 

Pickaxe (1)

 

 

 

Woodcutting Axe (1)

 

 

 

Fishing Supplies (Feathers, Bait, Harpoon, Lobster Pot) (6)

 

 

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (5)

 

 

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (4)

 

 

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (2 or 3)

 

 

 

GP (Money) (1)

 

 

 

Random Event Outfits (Full Zombie, Full Frog, Full Mime, Full Camo, Full Lenderhosen) [Make up a large bulk of the bank] (5-10)

 

 

 

Quest Items (May have an average of 5+ items for quests) [Not valid for players that have completed all the quests] (3-5)

 

 

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (4)

 

 

 

Strength Potions (3)

 

 

 

Trimmed Armour and Clothing of all sorts (5)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[whole lot more blather]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've counted up how many slots you NEED (in bold in your quote) to play this game robustly and it comes to... drumroll please...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

43

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And F2P has 60. That is plenty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One mage outfit, one range outfit, one melee outfit, and a combination of runes and staves to cover all spell-casting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You don't need all ores, bars, log types. You don't NEED any more than the number listed above.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want a wide range of options and fancy clothing and other luxuries... it costs $5/month.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Problem solved. You can ask the admins to close your thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Umm.....no. F2P DO deserve more bank space, I re-done your list of f2p items. That takes up 79 slots!!! I take it this guy doesnt like random event or holiday items.

When you defined the 3 types of players, you forgot 2 or 3 types, which are combinations of the three you listed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First off, there is the casual gamer. He/she does everything, from quests to merchanting to skilling to pking to messing around with friends to doing organised events. If it's in the game, he/she has done it. This uses up a massive amount of bank space (For a F2p'er). This person always has a full bank. This person has no goals but to have fun and I call them the ADD players, they can't devote themselves for longer than a half hour. They won't focus on any skill, they just play as long as they are happy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The comes the person who uses merchanting to provide for pking and skilling. This person will marchant so that they can raise their skills, then once they reach a skill goal they will pk until they've made back their expenses or lost so much that they have to merchant again. Then the cucle repeats itself. these people are basically skillers, but will ususally focus on skills such as crafting, range, mage runecrafting, smithing, firemaking and the other skills that use resources instead of producing them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finally comes the former P2p'er, which is more of a secondary type than anything. They have an unruly amount of items in their bank and have no clue what to do with them. Do they wait until they become a member again? Do they drop any members items? Those are the only two options they have, either drop or wait. If they decide to wait, then they will just focus on melee or pking. If they drop, then it all depends on what type they primarily are and if they will become a member in the future. If they don't become a member in the future, they go on as a F2p'er normally would. If they plan on becoming a member again, they probably stock up on resources, maybe get those last few levels so they hit the ground running once they become a member. That part is also in itself another type of player, because it could also be a F2p'er who has never been a member but has decided to make the jump to P2p'er.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love the idea, mostly because I could really use the bankspace. The only other option to solving the F2p bankspace problem is become a member for the month, stock up on every F2p item you can, then go back to F2p. Only problem then is that you have to always have 2 of every item in your bank to hold the spot, meaning that if your a merchant who deals with rares, you'll need to buy a bunch of rares and also then you cant buy any rares without becoming a member again.

 

[blather... blather... blather]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Updated List of F2P Items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

 

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (1)

 

 

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

 

 

Bow (1)

 

 

 

Arrows of several sorts (2)

 

 

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

 

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (3)

 

 

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (6)

 

 

 

Pickaxe (1)

 

 

 

Woodcutting Axe (1)

 

 

 

Fishing Supplies (Feathers, Bait, Harpoon, Lobster Pot) (2)

 

 

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (3)

 

 

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (2)

 

 

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (1)

 

 

 

GP (Money) (1)

 

 

 

Random Event Outfits (Full Zombie, Full Frog, Full Mime, Full Camo, Full Lenderhosen) [Make up a large bulk of the bank] (0)

 

 

 

Quest Items (May have an average of 5+ items for quests) [Not valid for players that have completed all the quests] (0)

 

 

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (3)

 

 

 

Strength Potions (1)

 

 

 

Trimmed Armour and Clothing of all sorts (3)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[whole lot more blather]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've counted up how many slots you NEED (in bold in your quote) to play this game robustly and it comes to... drumroll please...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

43

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will take the liberty of adding a certain number of spaces to what you have suggested based on my experience as a medium-level (91) free player and what I have observed from others. This addresses the needs of a player using his or her MAIN account.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

 

 

Competent fighters will use fighting boots rather than normal boots. The normal boots should be used by rangers and mages. +1 space.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (1)

 

 

 

Offensive! A competent f2p fighter will ALWAYS bring a 2hander along with his scimitar! +1 space.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

 

 

Normal boots and rune chain (try pking in f2p wild against a range pure with a rune chain). +2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bow (1)

 

 

 

Saying that some use a longbow to counter lurers would be splitting hairs. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. +0-1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arrows of several sorts (2)

 

 

 

Training arrows and PK-ing arrows. If you're like me and can afford to train with addy, it's only one space. Most people can't. +0 to -1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

 

 

Competent mages will use normal leather vambraces and normal boots, assuming they use mage at all (clan trips, pking events; usually not dms and "normal" pking due to the sad state of f2p magic). I assume your 4 spaces are reserved for a mage hat, robe, and bottom, as well as a dragonfire shield. +1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (3)

 

 

 

4. Body rune training may require an earth or water staff depending on what runes the player has accumulated. +1.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (1)

 

 

 

Woodcutters will want a space for their yews and possibly willows if they are training. Firemakers should use the shop near Lumbridge to train firemaking (All the autoers deposit their ill-gotten goods in that shop, leading to stockpiles of thousands of logs in the general stores). +0-1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (6)

 

 

 

I'm assuming you're including elementals, deaths, and possibly laws. An avid mage (like myself) and/or craftsman will certainly want cosmics and natures. Body runes are ubiquitous and extremely useful for magic training, so those should be included as well. Chaos and minds? Perhaps not. +3-5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (3)

 

 

 

This is right: all that's really necessary is a bank-healer (cheap food for healing away from monastery), a between-battle healer (Anchovy pizza is spectacular), and an in-fight healer (swordfish or lobster, take your pick). +0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (3)

 

 

 

Low-level smiths and merchants will have a good stock of coal and iron. Many medium-to-high level miners will have a stock of the highest ore they can mine or smith or even a stock of what's in between. +0-2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (2)

 

 

 

This is pretty much right, provided the two spaces are a hammer and steel bars (a mainstay of smiths and merchants). Crafters, however, will want space for gold and silver, as well as the appropriate molds. Advanced smiths may have a stock of the aforementioned steel and/or the most advanced bar they can work with. +0-5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Items Not Included

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runecrafting supplies - A person with 22 runecrafting or higher (that's most of us) will need rune essences and an air tiara. Runecrafting your own airs is far more efficient than buying. Besides, who doesn't want a higher runecraft level? Diehard runecrafters will also want an earth tiara and possibly a mind tiara. Very savvy runecrafters may even have spaces reserved for air talismans and tiaras for quick runecrafting training. +2-6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amulets - You all left this out! +4 (Defence is needed for rune miners like me)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holy Symbol - Possibly the most underrated piece of equipment ever made, the holy symbol greatly prolongs prayer and can be a lifesaver in a deathmatch. +1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cowhides, leather, and thread: Many f2pers are avid crafters. Most aren't. +0-3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gems and Chisel - Gems pile up QUICKLY. No matter what you do in f2p Runescape, you will inevitably accumulate gems. Five to nine spaces will be needed for these (as some people cannot cut the gems but are invariably awarded with pre-cut gems as well). To just dispose of them would be a serious waste of crafting xp and/or money. +5 (minimum)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guild items - These are items needed to enter the crafting and cooking guilds (Chef's hat, brown apron). Most people do not use the cooking guild, but many use the crafting guild for mining gold, silver, or clay, raising their crafting level, or getting molds they need to make a certain item. +1-2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tinderbox - Duh. +1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Security Sceptre - As useless an item as this is to P2Pers, this staff is a very powerful item for f2pers. It takes up one space, is activated in two clicks, and teleports to Barbarian Village, which is as close as you can get to the monastery or Edgeville wth a teleport in free worlds. Another two to three spaces will be needed for the parts to re-assemble it. +1-4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cape - +1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Adding up the minima of these categories (21) to your proposed grand total and REMOVING the 3 you allocate to clothes and trimmed armor, we reach a grand total of 61. This is leaving out ALL rings, holiday items, costumes, and trimmed armor, and assuming you carry nothing on your person. Assuming you carry equipment enough to fill your equipment slots (which means withdrawing ALL of your arrows, usually a bad idea), that subtracts nine from that total, which leaves us with 52 spaces used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

43 spaces is crazy low (and wrong), but you're right in that we have plenty of bank space, PROVIDED we take a minimum number of spaces needed for general work in all skills. The standard player at my level will probably require higher numbers in the ranges I have provided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do we have enough bank space? I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but I'd say yes. That said, Jagex provides the bare-bones player roughly 8 spaces for a 20+ range of holiday and random event items. I hardly think it would hurt anything to give us more.

People who say things like F2P doesn't deserve whatever has become a common occurance now.

 

 

 

this is ridiculous. if you want something, you have to pay for it, its only $5 a month, thats nothing.

 

 

 

It's already been thoroughly discussed--F2P does deserve it.

 

this is a bigger load of [cabbage] than the ads about froot loops being "part of this balanced breakfast." the "balanced breakfast" shown would be healthier without froot loops.

 

what im trying to say is that its obvious that only nonmembers discussed this.

 

out of 10 f2ps, all 10 will say that they deserve it.

 

out of 10 p2ps, 1 will pity the poor f2ps and vote for more f2p stuff, and the other 9 will ask why f2p should get something they arent paying for.

 

 

 

f2p players who whine about a lack of bankspace generally have no intention of ever becoming a member, and are just leeches who dont contribute to the game. f2p doesnt need to keep all the junk, and they arent paying for runescape. its unlikely that f2p will get more bank space, face it.

ianer101, why exactly are you speaking for all the p2p members In your statement? its not like those members haven't been f2p for a minute in their runescape lives. Most players don't do tutorial island and get mems right away. They all know what it's like to be f2p and have a constantly full bank. And don't even tell me that you never had ANY bank space problems, because thats a load of (apples)

 

 

 

 

 

and btw-we are paying-its a magical thing called "advertisements"

[blather... blather... blather]

 

 

 

Updated List of F2P Items

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (1)

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

Bow (1)

 

Arrows of several sorts (2)

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (3)

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (6)

 

Pickaxe (1)

 

Woodcutting Axe (1)

 

Fishing Supplies (Feathers, Bait, Harpoon, Lobster Pot) (2)

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (3)

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (2)

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (1)

 

GP (Money) (1)

 

Random Event Outfits (Full Zombie, Full Frog, Full Mime, Full Camo, Full Lenderhosen) [Make up a large bulk of the bank] (0)

 

Quest Items (May have an average of 5+ items for quests) [Not valid for players that have completed all the quests] (0)

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (3)

 

Strength Potions (1)

 

Trimmed Armour and Clothing of all sorts (3)

 

 

 

[whole lot more blather]

 

 

 

I've counted up how many slots you NEED (in bold in your quote) to play this game robustly and it comes to... drumroll please...

 

 

 

43

 

 

 

And F2P has 60. That is plenty.

 

 

 

One mage outfit, one range outfit, one melee outfit, and a combination of runes and staves to cover all spell-casting.

 

 

 

You don't need all ores, bars, log types. You don't NEED any more than the number listed above.

 

 

 

If you want a wide range of options and fancy clothing and other luxuries... it costs $5/month.

 

 

 

Problem solved. You can ask the admins to close your thread.

 

 

 

Horrible, just horrible, that was the worst assumption I've seen someone make.

 

 

 

1. You put 0 for random events, thats easily another, lets see here (Forester +5 I believe, zombie is +5, frogs is a +3, Demon drill seargent is +4-5, right? mime is +5)

 

 

 

Without adding in anything else yet, that is already over the alotted 60 spaces, its 22-23 spaces plus your 43 that we need, which comes to 65 to 66

 

 

 

2. Trimmed armors/rares: Now we must account for these, There are phats +1, Santas +1, Masks +1, and at least 1 set of trimmed armor + 3-4, people would like to have one these That adds 1-5 spaces (assuming someone has two, like me), bringing the new amount to 70!

 

 

 

Must I continue??? Hopefully not

ianer101, why exactly are you speaking for all the p2p members In your statement? its not like those members haven't been f2p for a minute in their runescape lives. Most players don't do tutorial island and get mems right away. They all know what it's like to be f2p and have a constantly full bank. And don't even tell me that you never had ANY bank space problems, because thats a load of (apples)

 

 

 

 

 

and btw-we are paying-its a magical thing called "advertisements"

 

i dont recall saying anything about how everyone goes straight to members, and yes i have had bank space problems even as a member.

 

im not sure where you are going with that "load of (apples)" thing, the only reason i had "[cabbage]" in my text was because of some sort of profanity filter done by tip.it.

 

 

 

free people actually dont pay for ads, the ad companies pay for that. even so, revenue generated by ads in nothing compared to the $5 a month (more if in cash) that members pay. that money doesnt go toward updates, it goes toward keeping the free servers running.

out of 10 p2ps, 1 will pity the poor f2ps and vote for more f2p stuff, and the other 9 will ask why f2p should get something they arent paying for.

 

I don;t call it "pity" I call it sympathising. When I quit members I realize how freaking tiny the f2p bank is. Not to mention former members have to deal with the tiny bank all over again, but with members items as well to deal with. I think 1/10 is extremely low for members who want more free bank space.

 

 

 

f2p players who whine about a lack of bankspace generally have no intention of ever becoming a member, and are just leeches who dont contribute to the game.

 

WRONG.

 

 

 

i dont recall saying anything about how everyone goes straight to members, and yes i have had bank space problems even as a member.

 

 

I never had bank space problems as a member...Bank organization on the other hand. -.-

 

 

 

free people actually dont pay for ads, the ad companies pay for that. even so, revenue generated by ads in nothing compared to the $5 a month (more if in cash) that members pay.

 

I'm sure it's significantly more than "nothing" compared to the membership price.

 

 

 

that money doesnt go toward updates, it goes toward keeping the free servers running.

 

Indeed. Instead of spending the money on updates, they pocket the rest of the money to themselves.

Horrible, just horrible, that was the worst assumption I've seen someone make.

 

 

 

1. You put 0 for random events, thats easily another, lets see here (Forester +5 I believe, zombie is +5, frogs is a +3, Demon drill seargent is +4-5, right? mime is +5)

 

 

 

Without adding in anything else yet, that is already over the alotted 60 spaces, its 22-23 spaces plus your 43 that we need, which comes to 65 to 66

 

 

 

2. Trimmed armors/rares: Now we must account for these, There are phats +1, Santas +1, Masks +1, and at least 1 set of trimmed armor + 3-4, people would like to have one these That adds 1-5 spaces (assuming someone has two, like me), bringing the new amount to 70!

 

 

 

Must I continue??? Hopefully not

Forester and Drill Demon are each 3 pieces. And you can save 2 if you have frog tokens instead of full frog. So random events totals come to 17-19. The count of 43 showed 3 for trimmed armor, but they contain 4 pieces, so that number is 4.

 

Now, add 4 for gems, and your total is now 65.

As unkn0wnwarrior points out, the total is STILL more than 60. Trying to contain a proper layout for both skilling and combat has therefore been analyzed completely, and STILL found to be impossible.

 

 

 

Heck, I am experiencing this much the hard way, because I have a life where I can't gain $5/month for "RS P2P Member"-mode. :(

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

Im in guys I dropped ALL my my random ev items :wall: now im dropping my ash collection ( almost4k) ive colected long and hard. I hope Jagex gives us some bank space :evil:

If you want more bankspace, join members.

 

 

 

yo dude perhaps you could've at least read the first two pages and the previous two pages of this? stop starting arguments that have already been raised.

 

100% agree with solarraider, and plus, if u dont think the more bank spaces for f2p is a good idea, y r u even posting here...? -.-

[blather... blather... blather]

 

 

 

Updated List of F2P Items

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (1)

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

Bow (1)

 

Arrows of several sorts (2)

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (3)

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (6)

 

Pickaxe (1)

 

Woodcutting Axe (1)

 

Fishing Supplies (Feathers, Bait, Harpoon, Lobster Pot) (2)

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (3)

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (2)

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (1)

 

GP (Money) (1)

 

Random Event Outfits (Full Zombie, Full Frog, Full Mime, Full Camo, Full Lenderhosen) [Make up a large bulk of the bank] (0)

 

Quest Items (May have an average of 5+ items for quests) [Not valid for players that have completed all the quests] (0)

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (3)

 

Strength Potions (1)

 

Trimmed Armour and Clothing of all sorts (3)

 

 

 

[whole lot more blather]

 

 

 

I've counted up how many slots you NEED (in bold in your quote) to play this game robustly and it comes to... drumroll please...

 

 

 

43

 

 

 

And F2P has 60. That is plenty.

 

 

 

One mage outfit, one range outfit, one melee outfit, and a combination of runes and staves to cover all spell-casting.

 

 

 

You don't need all ores, bars, log types. You don't NEED any more than the number listed above.

 

 

 

If you want a wide range of options and fancy clothing and other luxuries... it costs $5/month.

 

 

 

Problem solved. You can ask the admins to close your thread.

 

OMG!!!! wat is wrong with u???? f2p has like 20 bank spaces

OMG!!!! wat is wrong with u???? f2p has like 20 bank spaces

 

Uh, no, F2P has 60 slots, but it has been discovered that even 60 is well below a proper amount. :( ... Just check your own bank, and you will see what I mean. -.-

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

OMG!!!! wat is wrong with u???? f2p has like 20 bank spaces

 

Uh, no, F2P has 60 slots, but it has been discovered that even 60 is well below a proper amount. :( ... Just check your own bank, and you will see what I mean. -.-

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

 

In my bank right now, I have way more than 60 different types of F2P items. I'm sure going to have a heck of a time dumping half of it...Unless Jagex makes that member-items-don't-count-as-space-update. Or give F2P more bank space, either one would work.

 

And Phelim, I'm lazy, and I won't find it for you, but quite a while, I somewhat analyzed Prankster's list. Find it, read it, object to it, get hated for it. Or just respect our opinion, state a new argument that hasn't been used before, have a friendly argument, and leave.

one day i'm gonna count every single f2p item...I means theres WAY more than people realize. robes, shade robes, wizzy (g), str ammy (t), mage ammy (t)....never been mentioned have they?

out of 10 p2ps, 1 will pity the poor f2ps and vote for more f2p stuff, and the other 9 will ask why f2p should get something they arent paying for.

 

I don;t call it "pity" I call it sympathising. When I quit members I realize how freaking tiny the f2p bank is. Not to mention former members have to deal with the tiny bank all over again, but with members items as well to deal with. I think 1/10 is extremely low for members who want more free bank space.

 

ok, i admit, sympathising might work better there. also, i agree that more than 1/10 members want more free bank space. maybe 2/10. why do p2ps want more free bank space; they arent f2p when last i checked...

 

f2p players who whine about a lack of bankspace generally have no intention of ever becoming a member, and are just leeches who dont contribute to the game.

 

WRONG.

 

yeah, i cant help but agree with you on account of those nasty bold capital letters.

 

i dont recall saying anything about how everyone goes straight to members, and yes i have had bank space problems even as a member.

 

 

I never had bank space problems as a member...Bank organization on the other hand. -.-

 

attacking me personally for a lack of organization constitutes an argument? oh, wait, it doesn't.

 

 

 

free people actually dont pay for ads, the ad companies pay for that. even so, revenue generated by ads in nothing compared to the $5 a month (more if in cash) that members pay.

 

I'm sure it's significantly more than "nothing" compared to the membership price.

 

its a figure of speech, allow me to clarify. The revenue generated by ads is a fraction of the $5 a month (more if in cash) that members pay. happy now?

 

 

 

that money doesnt go toward updates, it goes toward keeping the free servers running.

 

Indeed. Instead of spending the money on updates, they pocket the rest of the money to themselves.

 

eh...no, i would say that the remaining money goes to graphical updates, and new areas like the stronghold of security which even free players receive.

Seriously, guys. I do pretty much everything in RS and I've got enough bank space. Is it roomy? No, but it's enough.

[blather... blather... blather]

 

 

 

Updated List of F2P Items

 

 

 

Armor (Platebody, Plate-Legs, Shield, Helm) (4)

 

Weapons (Swords, Battle Axes, 2hers, Maces, Daggers) (1)

 

Ranging Armour (Body, chaps, vambraces, cowl) (4)

 

Bow (1)

 

Arrows of several sorts (2)

 

Mage Clothes (4)

 

Mage Staves (Earth, Fire, Water, Air) (3)

 

Runes (Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Laws, Natures, Chaos, Deaths, Cosmics, Bodies) (6)

 

Pickaxe (1)

 

Woodcutting Axe (1)

 

Fishing Supplies (Feathers, Bait, Harpoon, Lobster Pot) (2)

 

Ore of various sorts (Tin, copper, iron, mith, addy, rune, gold, silver, clay) (3)

 

Bars of various sorts (Bronze, Iron, Steel, Mithril, Gold, Silver, Addy, Rune) (2)

 

Wood of various sorts (Regular, Oak, Willow, Yew) (1)

 

GP (Money) (1)

 

Random Event Outfits (Full Zombie, Full Frog, Full Mime, Full Camo, Full Lenderhosen) [Make up a large bulk of the bank] (0)

 

Quest Items (May have an average of 5+ items for quests) [Not valid for players that have completed all the quests] (0)

 

Food of many sorts (Swordies, Lobbies, and under) (3)

 

Strength Potions (1)

 

Trimmed Armour and Clothing of all sorts (3)

 

 

 

[whole lot more blather]

 

 

 

I've counted up how many slots you NEED (in bold in your quote) to play this game robustly and it comes to... drumroll please...

 

 

 

43

 

 

 

And F2P has 60. That is plenty.

 

 

 

One mage outfit, one range outfit, one melee outfit, and a combination of runes and staves to cover all spell-casting.

 

 

 

You don't need all ores, bars, log types. You don't NEED any more than the number listed above.

 

 

 

If you want a wide range of options and fancy clothing and other luxuries... it costs $5/month.

 

 

 

Problem solved. You can ask the admins to close your thread.

 

OMG!!!! wat is wrong with u???? f2p has like 20 bank spaces

 

The typical f2p ^^^

 

 

 

It's just not that they don't pay, it's also how mature they are, honestly go to a member world lumbrige with 1800+ people then go to a f2p world same amount of people with comparison, it's not like members don't need any more space, you f2p are always moaning but you forget members need more space because there's more stuff.

The typical f2p ^^^

 

 

 

It's just not that they don't pay, it's also how mature they are, honestly go to a member world lumbrige with 1800+ people then go to a f2p world same amount of people with comparison, it's not like members don't need any more space, you f2p are always moaning but you forget members need more space because there's more stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

1. Ya, some people are immature, you have to get used to that though, people being immature doesn't justify saying that f2p doesn't deserve bank space. Also, if you take a game, and put a free version, and a p2p version, of course there are going to be more immature people on the free version. Why? Because if they get banned it doesn't matter. BUt there are those that truly are trying to play the game as respectable players, they deserve the space. Anyways, I've met my fair share of p2p players that are jerks just like there are a fair share of good ones.

 

 

 

2. No one ever said p2p doesn't need more, no one says anything, because eventually, we know they'll get more. But the problem is, as jagex expands their game, everyonce in a while, things will pop up available to f2p through p2p, and that takes up space, along with new randoms, rares people buy, armor, and numerous other things, such as cooking supplies. Thats why we are talking about f2p bank, and not p2p, because the p2p problem will be solved one week when they get another 2-3 rows, all we're asking, is a completed row, or another 10 spaces, it's not that much, it's not like we're stealing anything from you, so you shouldn't have any problem with it, it's a small update to make things easier.

ok, i admit, sympathising might work better there. also, i agree that more than 1/10 members want more free bank space. maybe 2/10. why do p2ps want more free bank space; they arent f2p when last i checked...

 

You do know membership isn't permanent, right? When members aren't actively paying they're f2p again. They have to deal with smaller banks, but now with members items. I been in this situation a few times already, it isn't fun.

 

 

 

yeah, i cant help but agree with you on account of those nasty bold capital letters.

 

 

If you have any logical grasp of what you said you would have noticed you were wrong. Leeches??? You have got to be kidding me. :roll:

 

 

 

attacking me personally for a lack of organization constitutes an argument? oh, wait, it doesn't.

 

What the hell are you talking about? :-s

 

 

 

eh...no, i would say that the remaining money goes to graphical updates, and new areas like the stronghold of security which even free players receive.

 

They added stronghold of security a year ago. And it was mainly for security reasons.

 

 

 

The typical f2p ^^^

 

 

 

It's just not that they don't pay, it's also how mature they are, honestly go to a member world lumbrige with 1800+ people then go to a f2p world same amount of people with comparison, it's not like members don't need any more space, you f2p are always moaning but you forget members need more space because there's more stuff.

 

That is not "the typical f2p". =; Try again.

im p2p and i think f2p should get a few more rows in there bank

TO ALL PEOPLE AGAINST THIS ENTIRE TOPIC

 

Ok, I know 99.99999% of the people against this are members. But seriously, you guys put in pathetic arguements acting like its gonna hurt members updates and that you guys pay so you should get an update over us. WHAT THE HECK, if you were a tad bit mature you'd realize members get at least 4 updates a month, sometimes WAY more! And these arn't small updates either! like new quests (all the time), new items, new monsters, new skills, new towns, more bank space, ect ect ect. so now its completely obvious that members will always get what they basically whenever they want - cuz they pay and jagex wants to keep em happy. so if you'll always get what you want why would you care if lil' f2p got 1 small update! you shouldn't care at all, but you just wanna start a arguement, throw in some drama around here, or simply post to be annoying (and get your post count up). so just back off and go post somewhere else :

People who say things like F2P doesn't deserve whatever has become a common occurance now.

 

 

 

this is ridiculous. if you want something, you have to pay for it, its only $5 a month, thats nothing.

 

 

 

It's already been thoroughly discussed--F2P does deserve it.

 

this is a bigger load of [cabbage] than the ads about froot loops being "part of this balanced breakfast." the "balanced breakfast" shown would be healthier without froot loops.

 

what im trying to say is that its obvious that only nonmembers discussed this.

 

out of 10 f2ps, all 10 will say that they deserve it.

 

out of 10 p2ps, 1 will pity the poor f2ps and vote for more f2p stuff, and the other 9 will ask why f2p should get something they arent paying for.

 

 

 

f2p players who whine about a lack of bankspace generally have no intention of ever becoming a member, and are just leeches who dont contribute to the game. f2p doesnt need to keep all the junk, and they arent paying for runescape. its unlikely that f2p will get more bank space, face it.

 

 

 

Please congratulate me on losing my appetite.

 

 

 

Sometimes I understand why some people don't dream of being rich in the real world. I mean, if money really causes a wrong turn in your personality, can you afford it? In a way, being f2p did give me one small ability - to choose and be dedicated to ONE thing at a time. Members generally have problems with bank space too because they have various items for different skills in the bank. F2p have been coping fine in the past, by sacrificing the luxury of multitasking in a short period of time. But as Jagex adds more updates for f2p (I'd like to thank them for this), the bank space is getting really limited. So if you expect us to tighten the notch some more, I'm sorry, some things have a limit.

 

 

 

As for f2p being a bunch of 'leeches', I'm sure we have a much larger mass and a healthier diet. And there are undoubtedly f2p pmods out there; I presume they must have started members and switched back to f2p to laze around and 'not contribute' to the game then. Oh by the way when I decide that my halloween masks are junk sometime in the future, I'll let you know. You sound like you're thirsty for some money, despite your level.

 

 

 

A lot of you say f2pers are autoers. I'd like to ask you a question. If you were an autoer and wanted to make big money for your main, would you get membership for your level 3 guy who you will never put your heart in? I definitely wouldn't. Why waste the $5 per month when there's so many autoing opportunities in f2p? You can't blame us for the existence of those level 3 autoers. After all, they're just part of the f2p population. Unless all f2p pmods and f2pers owning phats and masks and santas are autoers.

 

 

 

No offence, but you're right on most mid-high level f2pers not wanting to be members. For me, some rather unpleasant experiences have made me...um...rather uninterested in being a member. Take the time some member asked to buy my rubber chicken, and upon hearing it was untradable, called me a noob and jeered along with his lovely friends. Call me a noob all you like, but I would not like to be influenced to that extent. Yes, that is my impression of ALL p2p players (minus the 1/10 you mentioned). Runescape, minus scammers and bots, is supposed to be a multiplayer game, i.e. people interact with each other and help each other. I'd rather play the game under this impression rather than face stinky reality.

 

 

 

But if money is that important to Jagex (bear in mind they had no members at the beginning), I'm willing to shut up and back off from the game.

 

 

 

P.S.: Thanks for insisting on this little problem. After all, the more support the better.

^^^

 

Amen Brother!

 

:thumbsup:

 

 

 

PS .... I was going to post something just like that.... but u beat me to it.