support high level updates and suggestions

[jessy87]

my friend dan has made a thread on the official forums and me and other friends would like you to support his suggestion. it is not my suggestion so i feel it deserves to be here because im not going to copy and paste his ideas "plagerize"(i misspelt that lol)

 

 

 

 

 

it simply asks for ast least a single update geared towards higher leveled combatants.

 

 

 

 

 

"- Something For High Levels -", found in the suggestion forums of the official runescape forums

 

 

 

Quick find code: 24-25-250-30935214

 

 

 

 

 

please support this idea because theirs alot of higher level players who have just simply walked away from the game which they spent alot of time on. and these people are good people. this has effected a few tip.it memebers

 

 

 

 

 

leesters has slowed down his play time

 

nathanich also has stopped playing as much i guess.

 

 

 

these 2 members from the forums i respected alot, and if this would get them to play again and use the forums id be thankful to jagex and every1 who supported it.

[Barihawk]

I for one will not support that suggestion until something is given for those of us with 80+ in a combat stat.

 

 

 

I also think such prestigious armor should not be just continuations of what we already have.

 

 

 

For example, the ranger armor should shy away from hides. Maybe something of a lightly armored jacket imbued with nature's elements. The mage armor should be along the lines of splitbark, but much more powerful. And warrior armor should definately look like Sir Prysin's new appearance.

[blacksimon]

We need a new superweapon (like the whip) That requires 80 attack AND str. And can only train controlled or str. (Opposite of whip)

 

 

 

Rangers really need excent armor, but only make it have uber def bonuses in magic (so neebs dont complain)

 

 

 

mages need... err... nothing?

 

 

 

Im hoping the superweapon will be made out of a dragon

 

Dude 1: 'Ill buy your dragon legs for 12m'

 

Dude 2: 'noob, dragon legs are 2.4m'

 

Dude 1: 'Not the platelegs, the ones in his hands'

 

Dude 3: 'Ill sell for 12.2'

 

 

 

Imagine a guy walking around with a dragons leg in his hand :XD:

[bubbels]

it has my support, soon support of my clan, and slowly the support of elite from finland \

[PureXax]

I support this idea.

 

Although im combat 96 at this time, i do have 93 ranged and i would like to have a wepon that needs like 90 ranged to use. And some new ranged armor that requires high ranged and high defence.

 

This would set appart high leveled players - it would show that you have worked hard on your combat skills.

[Severation]

I.. have to agree..

 

 

 

After recently getting 70 ranged, I don't see a point in going any further. nothing more is unlocked.

[mad4beanies]

We need a new superweapon (like the whip) That requires 80 attack AND str. And can only train controlled or str. (Opposite of whip)

 

 

 

i would LOVE that

 

 

 

it should also be a big axe, or hammer, or some other massive crushing instrument of severe pain.. ooh yeah..

[Chubb_Master]

I agree 100%. Lower Levels have PLENTY to keep them satisfied, they have 10x more content to do as a lower level than I did when I was a lower lvl in classic. They don't need anymore! I think just the fact that so many people don't have max quest points proves this point further because all these "noob" quests get really boring over time with their junk rewards.

 

 

 

Everything in combat seems to stop around lvl 70... lvl 70 is only 700-800k xp? (someone correct me on that, all i know is 1m xp is mid 73) and that isn't even 1/13th of the way to 99! For that other 12-12.5m xp you are using the same equip... zzzZZZ boring!

 

 

 

High lvls need more updates jagex. We also need quests that we can actually die doing and take weeks to complete (without a guide, of-course).

[chris1216]

This is why high leveled items aren't and never will be a jagex priority:

 

 

 

The goal of jagex, as with any company, is to make so much money they start wiping their wagons with hundred-pound bills.

 

 

 

To do so, they need to continue to attract NEW players to Runescape, which means they need to be constantly coming out with updates that almost everyone can utilize.

 

 

 

High-leveled players are still a VAST minority in Runescape- the majority of players are a much lower level. So what do they really have to gain from putting out a superweapon? 3 less elite players quitting? Or can they put out a lower leveled update and attract 6 new memberships?

 

 

 

And frankly, the number of people that QUIT due to a lack of uber-stuff you can probably count on your hands and toes.

 

 

 

So quit complaining, and if they do come out with something elite, well, that's just gravy.

 

 

 

Oh, and Chubb_Master's arbitrary judgement on whether or not lower leveled players have enough is just that- arbitrary.

[Chubb_Master]

I have to partially disagree with that chris.

 

 

 

Most members are easily 70+ combat... the low lvl "majority" are f2p who have no updates at all so this doesn't really impact them AT ALL.

 

 

 

And as for my comment being arbitrary, yours can be considered arbitrary as well (hipocritical?) when I atleast backed up mine with the quest thing. When that poll was put on on RS main site a majority of ppl had a lot of quests incomplete probably because they are low lvl boring quests.

 

 

 

And new updates barely attract new playes... im sure gertrudes cat or rat catchers really attracted new players - NOT. Nobody that looks at a new game sees a "noob" update and automatically sais "omg I want to do that!" no, its things like construction (which high lvls can use) and skills like slayer (which high lvls can use) that attract new players.

[pfilc23]

This is why high leveled items aren't and never will be a jagex priority:

 

 

 

The goal of jagex, as with any company, is to make so much money they start wiping their wagons with hundred-pound bills.

 

 

 

To do so, they need to continue to attract NEW players to Runescape, which means they need to be constantly coming out with updates that almost everyone can utilize.

 

 

 

High-leveled players are still a VAST minority in Runescape- the majority of players are a much lower level. So what do they really have to gain from putting out a superweapon? 3 less elite players quitting? Or can they put out a lower leveled update and attract 6 new memberships?

 

 

 

And frankly, the number of people that QUIT due to a lack of uber-stuff you can probably count on your hands and toes.

 

 

 

So quit complaining, and if they do come out with something elite, well, that's just gravy.

 

 

 

Oh, and Chubb_Master's arbitrary judgement on whether or not lower leveled players have enough is just that- arbitrary.

 

 

 

I think your logic is a bit flawed. What do new players strive for (what keeps them playing)? Training to a point at which they can use better items.

 

 

 

What new player says "I can't wait until my attack is high enough to use steel weapons!"? Nobody...it's more like, "I can't wait until I can use dragon weps or a whip". Now imagine there's something even better.

 

 

 

The point being: the better the "best" items are the more enticing the game is and also the more people will play and continue to play. That includes both high combat levels and new players.

 

 

 

I think this also applies to skills and not just combat and items. For example, if they suddenly released something really good to do with firemaking at level 90, everyone will want to raise that skill and newer players will find the game more interesting have another thing to work towards and keep them interested in the game.

[chris1216]

1) Your argument that most members are 70+, even if true, still means that their combat stats are probably all in the 60's, and far away from your superweapon/uberstuff/whatever requirements

 

 

 

2) It's spelled h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-i-c-a-l

 

 

 

3) Where am I making an arbitrary judgement?

 

 

 

4) Your max quest point argument is junk because it assumes that people don't get max qp because they hate the quests. You claim that the quests are boring and low level, and yet use YOUR opinion of the quests to decide whether or not you like them, despite the fact that many people probably enjoyed them one they got around to doing them

 

 

 

5) You claiming that new updates don't attract players is false for a few reasons-

 

a) You don't explain why exactly this super-update would increase memberships

 

B) Construction and slayer are skills that EVERYONE can use, thus negating them for our arguments

 

c) Runescape is still increasing in size despite the lack of a super update in a while, which must mean that Jagex is doing something right

 

d) Gertrudes cat introduced a buzz about being able to have your own pet

 

 

 

6) You still haven't explained how Jagex is experiencing problems due to lack of a super update, except for a few people grumbling, which is inevitable no matter what they do.

[chris1216]

pf, this entire thread is about whether or not Jagex is in dire need of a new high level update. All your examples are things that are already in the game keeping people interested, and interest hasn't begun to wane just because dragon kiteshields aren't out.

[pfilc23]

pf, this entire thread is about whether or not Jagex is in dire need of a new high level update. All your examples are things that are already in the game keeping people interested, and interest hasn't begun to wane just because dragon kiteshields aren't out.

 

 

 

My point was that the high level items keep lower levels interested as much as high levels (possible even more so) and also attracts more new players. By introducing more higher level items (or high level skill usages) the interest and attraction is even greater.

[muggiwhplar]

Warriors need armor that gives negative magic def, high melee def, and insane range def

 

 

 

Rangers need armor that gives negative melee attack bonuses (hybrids), insane magic def, low melee def

 

 

 

Mages need armor (like ahrims is) that gives insane melee def, zero range def, and decent magic def

[jessy87]

really, id like to just see a list of supporters on this thread

 

 

 

 

 

however, i always love to read barihawks comments. at least his are supportive of his opinions. and not a bunch of garbage half thought out idea.

 

 

 

 

 

i agree with him, if anything their should be more armor's introduced im not sure if it could be done

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

id love to see lvl 80 equiptment followed by lvl 90 equiptment, and then lvl 99 equiptment.

 

 

 

 

 

its not realistic but, if it happened i sure couldnt argue about their being little variety when it comes to what you wear into combat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im thinking white dragon hides could be lvl 80 stuff and the lvl 90 stuff could start having a little better thought put behind it.

 

 

 

 

 

really, my friend who is a girl, and has a girl character...she often tells me about wanting a dragonhide skirt. and i hope they would offer that in the 90 lvl requirement armors. skirt or legs, kind of like the white knight armors.

[fearspudgod]

i posted.

[adon1]

i think a new high leveled monster to give people a challenge, the dagannoths kings and kq get fairly easy after a while and few people go to the kbd because the drops arent worthwhile, maybe some giant lizard crocodile thingy? or even an underwater beast like a shark that dropped 100% raw shark

[Sly_Wizard]

Define high level for me, if you would.

 

 

 

As it currently stands, there are more people who CAN'T use-- For examples-- Barrows armour compared to the number of people who CAN use it. Those who are able to wield it complain that there's nothing better while those that can't wield it complain that it's requirements are too high. It might not be high to you because you've already attained the ability to use it, but it is high for many other people.

 

 

 

It's the whole perception thing (You know... "The truth is in the eye of the beholder.").

 

 

 

Besides, "High" levels already do insanely good with the "Low" leveled equipment. Why should there be anything better?

[Socc]

Yes i agree they need more high lv equipment, i loved training and dreaming of getting that whip and using it, now im bored with thosecombat stats? why? Theres nothing to really train for except higher stats, no new equipment, no new armour, no new range weapons, no new range weapons. Everything seems to stop at 70 or less in a stat, barrows ends at 70, range armour ends at 70 MAge armour ends at 70. To sum it all up, yes they need more high level equipment

 

 

 

THe bottom line is: I enjoy working toward some new weapon or equipment, and many others do too

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. I think thats the longest post ive ever typed :XD: :ohnoes:

[Nazgul740]

Define high level for me, if you would.

 

 

 

As it currently stands, there are more people who CAN'T use-- For examples-- Barrows armour compared to the number of people who CAN use it. Those who are able to wield it complain that there's nothing better while those that can't wield it complain that it's requirements are too high. It might not be high to you because you've already attained the ability to use it, but it is high for many other people.

 

 

 

It's the whole perception thing (You know... "The truth is in the eye of the beholder.").

 

 

 

Besides, "High" levels already do insanely good with the "Low" leveled equipment. Why should there be anything better?

 

 

 

I disagree...

 

 

 

When i first started members about 2 and a half years ago i saw a lvl 100+ every few days lvl 115+ every week...

 

 

 

Now... the rs worlds are PACKED with people this combat lvl

 

 

 

No offence to any of you people but i doubt that you can see the change.. you haven't been playing long enough

[LordSoultar]

I'd love to see some new equipment that requires level 80 and level 90 in their respective combat skills to use. (White or silver dragonhides, anyone? :wink: )

 

 

 

Rangers need armor that gives negative melee attack bonuses (hybrids), insane magic def, low melee def

 

While many some pkers would like that, it would be a nuisance when killing monsters that attack with magic.

 

 

 

really, my friend who is a girl, and has a girl character...she often tells me about wanting a dragonhide skirt.

 

I'm confused why Jagex hasn't done this already, to be honest. They already have made a skirt for rangers, Karil's, so I don't see why they haven't started on normal dragonhide skirts.

[jessy87]

Why should there be anything better?

 

as an answer to this, socc masta has the exact words for it.

 

THe bottom line is: I enjoy working toward some new weapon or equipment, and many others do too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While many some pkers would like that, it would be a nuisance when killing monsters that attack with magic.

 

 

 

 

 

yes, thats the problem with runescape, the slayer skill...i dont want to spend 5mil in prayer pots to melee 200 bloodvelds...

 

 

 

 

 

thats why i think they do that with the super equiptment...and keep dragon hides the same.

[Socc]

jessey that posts a bit confusing, revise pl0x?

[Kenshinjapan]

how about a wep that need 80 str, attk, AND def so pures couldn't have it.