Immortality on Earth-Questions

[lawrencekill]

I asked my friend:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you had one wish and couldn't wish for more wishes, wish for things that makes more wishes, or things that makes more things(a robot that can make anything or something similar), what would you wish for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My friend said immortality (not eternal youth).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So here's my question, immortality and undying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it still possible to live if your brain has been rotted, and the rest of your muscls, and is gone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since the brain contains your conscieness and movement is just contraction of muscles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you'd actually be like a soul floating in an unmovable skeleton.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Questions comments?

[Zonorhc]

Technically, that wouldn't be living at all, since you don't have a pulse or any consciousness worth speaking of.

[Mr_Putter]

It really depends on what people's definitions of immortality are. I actually had a long conversation with a group of people about this once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some claimed immortality made you invulerable to any damage, but you could still die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Others claimed you were invulnerable to dieing of natural causes, but you can still die of physical damage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Myself, alone had the correct definition (:)). It means you can never take any physical harm to begin with (like, steel skin), and you cannot catch any sickness. Therefore, the ravages of age don't apply, so your muscles never break down. I assume they would still mature to the point before you entered the stage where there was inverse progress on your body. So you would probably hit somewhere in your twenties or thirties and then your body would just be in stasis.

[BlueLancer]

Ultimate physical invulnerability is almost the only way to dominate the world, because you could threaten every politician in the world and if they wouldn't agree, just kill them, and their bodyguards or police can't do squat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But even then, an army could just make an aerial attack on you and dump a huge concrete cage on you and you couldn't escape. Thus you'd also need unlimited physical strength, so I'd take that with fries please.

[runesmithie]

Ultimate physical invulnerability is almost the only way to dominate the world, because you could threaten every politician in the world and if they wouldn't agree, just kill them, and their bodyguards or police can't do squat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But even then, an army could just make an aerial attack on you and dump a huge concrete cage on you and you couldn't escape. Thus you'd also need unlimited physical strength, so I'd take that with fries please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure you'll be alive long enough for the concrete to just fade away xD

[Adam007]

 

Ultimate physical invulnerability is almost the only way to dominate the world, because you could threaten every politician in the world and if they wouldn't agree, just kill them, and their bodyguards or police can't do squat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But even then, an army could just make an aerial attack on you and dump a huge concrete cage on you and you couldn't escape. Thus you'd also need unlimited physical strength, so I'd take that with fries please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure you'll be alive long enough for the concrete to just fade away xD

 

 

 

Sounds like a fun way to spend a millennium or two. :)

[petey]

I think it would be awsome living forever. Kind of awesome, untill you want to die, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd just see what would happen if i jump off a huge building.

[Mercifull]

Is anyone else getting an image of Lopan in thier minds or is it just me? :D

[Zonorhc]

Is anyone else getting an image of Lopan in thier minds or is it just me? :D

 

 

 

Yes, minus the eye beams and absurdly long fingernails.

[ctp080188]

Living forever is truly the most awful thing I could think of. Outliving your children, your friends, everyone around you dying... No thanks not for me. If your brain rotted, then surely you would be dead.

[darkmage099]

I think it'd be cool to be something like Belgarath. If there is no God, then I'd want to live forever (but not really age). It'd be cool waiting 2000 years and then look back at how technologically behind we were.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything, it'd be the ability to read people's minds when I felt like it.

[lawrencekill]

It really depends on what people's definitions of immortality are. I actually had a long conversation with a group of people about this once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some claimed immortality made you invulerable to any damage, but you could still die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Others claimed you were invulnerable to dieing of natural causes, but you can still die of physical damage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Myself, alone had the correct definition (:)). It means you can never take any physical harm to begin with (like, steel skin), and you cannot catch any sickness. Therefore, the ravages of age don't apply, so your muscles never break down. I assume they would still mature to the point before you entered the stage where there was inverse progress on your body. So you would probably hit somewhere in your twenties or thirties and then your body would just be in stasis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're thinking of invulnerability, not immortality. Invulnerability in being immune or not effected much by physical damages. Immortality is living forever, but you are still affected by the aging process. Immortality is not eternal youth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're eternally youthful and you get cancer, you'll still die. If you're immortal and you get cancer, well let's just say you won't be eating, moving, thinking, or much of anything anymore, but you'll still be alive in a way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ultimate physical invulnerability is almost the only way to dominate the world, because you could threaten every politician in the world and if they wouldn't agree, just kill them, and their bodyguards or police can't do squat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But even then, an army could just make an aerial attack on you and dump a huge concrete cage on you and you couldn't escape. Thus you'd also need unlimited physical strength, so I'd take that with fries please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure you'll be alive long enough for the concrete to just fade away xD

 

 

 

Sounds like a fun way to spend a millennium or two. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But physical strength and immortality would require two wishes, not one. And not a good idea to wait for concrete to fade. They'll just drop another one on you every millenium of so. You'll be stuck in there for the rest of your life!!!, what a way to spend it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it'd be cool to be something like Belgarath. If there is no God, then I'd want to live forever (but not really age). It'd be cool waiting 2000 years and then look back at how technologically behind we were.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything, it'd be the ability to read people's minds when I felt like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After some thought, I think I would be able to discover every possibility. For example, if I got a F in bio instead of an A, I want to see how my life will turn into. Likewise if I wanted, let's say, to be a billionaire, I can see what exactly I have to do to get there (or around what I have to do).

[transcript80]

I think it'd be cool to be something like Belgarath.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yay, another Eddings fan!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything, it'd be the ability to read people's minds when I felt like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, good ol' Belgarath could do that, but also mentioned it to be extremely NOT DONE...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, on topic....

 

 

 

Since you would't stop aging (cells have "aging genes" called telomers), if you'd live forever (=immortality) you would age as such. It would be pretty pointles... Of course, when your brain rots away, there can be no life at all....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Furthermore, as stated before, outliving your friends, spouse children and other relatives sounds horrible to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everybody wants to become old, nobody wants to BE old.

 

 

 

It's not a matter how old we become, but how we become old!

[BlueLancer]

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything, it'd be the ability to read people's minds when I felt like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, good ol' Belgarath could do that, but also mentioned it to be extremely NOT DONE...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DragonLance? Sorry if my memory failed me, I just recall the character Belgarath from that book series very clearly. I read maybe 1 or 2 of those books, they were pretty entertaining and well written.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And since you would have to choose between immortality and invulnerability, actually the best way to dominate the world is time manipulation. You could go a thousand years ahead in time and only age a few seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just think of the financial opportunities, by that alone you could own the world and ruin the entire economy by going back and forth in time. 8-)

[lawrencekill]

 

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything, it'd be the ability to read people's minds when I felt like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, good ol' Belgarath could do that, but also mentioned it to be extremely NOT DONE...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DragonLance? Sorry if my memory failed me, I just recall the character Belgarath from that book series very clearly. I read maybe 1 or 2 of those books, they were pretty entertaining and well written.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And since you would have to choose between immortality and invulnerability, actually the best way to dominate the world is time manipulation. You could go a thousand years ahead in time and only age a few seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just think of the financial opportunities, by that alone you could own the world and ruin the entire economy by going back and forth in time. 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but you can probably only keep it up for 50 years of your life or so. Just pointing out that even if YOU stop time, YOU still age even if everyone doesn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's like wishing for tons of money, cause you know which stocks to invest in etc. but you also know who to trust and that kind of stuff.

[assassin_696]

I'd rather have a lifetime of happiness than an eternity of sadness.

[darkmage099]

I'd rather have a lifetime of happiness than an eternity of sadness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd rather have an eternity of happiness than a lifetime of sadness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Belgarath is from he Belgarion and Mallorean series.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Time manipulation would be pretty awesome as long as your body and brain don't age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, I found a solution to the whole spouse and children dying thing.

 

 

 

Wanna hear it?...get remarried!! \ \ .

[assassin_696]

 

I'd rather have a lifetime of happiness than an eternity of sadness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd rather have an eternity of happiness than a lifetime of sadness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but you tell me which is more likely :P

[henk333]

Heh, this reminds me of that movie with Bill Murray; Groundhog day. He relives the same day over and over again, which you probably would experience if you were to live forever, because history seems to repeat itself quite often. At some point he gets really sick of it and goes about killing himself in a number of ways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt living forever would be any fun, whether you would age or not, at some point you would get bored of living but have no way to ever change that.

 

 

 

There are other implications which are kind of horrible to think about. What if there was some war or confict and you would be captured by people that wanted to torture you. They could do so forever and ever without the risk of you ever dying, because you can't. Everlasting pain and agony *shudders*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I could wish for anything I would wish that anything I ever wanted would be free of charge, rather then wishing for a million dollars or something :P

[trapical]

Immortality is complicated. You can't die, ever. Imagine living for 20,000,000 years. I imagine you would get pretty sick of it after the first 500. No to mention the milky way is on a collison course with the Andromeda galaxy so in 3 billion years the sun and planets will all probably collide with other objects and in the end after billions of years you will eventually end up in a black hole. Alone. In darkness. For eternity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fun.

[lawrencekill]

Immortality is complicated. You can't die, ever. Imagine living for 20,000,000 years. I imagine you would get pretty sick of it after the first 500. No to mention the milky way is on a collison course with the Andromeda galaxy so in 3 billion years the sun and planets will all probably collide with other objects and in the end after billions of years you will eventually end up in a black hole. Alone. In darkness. For eternity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you're not thinking about the depth of the matter. You are only covering the breadth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What would happen if you were in a black hole? Would you still be alive if your body was torn into atoms? Is that possible? Keep in mind that you are immortal.

[lagatag]

Generally immortality goes along with eternal youth, because aging=death, so immortality would not occur without eternal youth among other things, such as immunity to all disease, no need for food, and many others.

[trapical]

 

Immortality is complicated. You can't die, ever. Imagine living for 20,000,000 years. I imagine you would get pretty sick of it after the first 500. No to mention the milky way is on a collison course with the Andromeda galaxy so in 3 billion years the sun and planets will all probably collide with other objects and in the end after billions of years you will eventually end up in a black hole. Alone. In darkness. For eternity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you're not thinking about the depth of the matter. You are only covering the breadth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What would happen if you were in a black hole? Would you still be alive if your body was torn into atoms? Is that possible? Keep in mind that you are immortal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Well it really depends on your opinion of immortality. The one most people think of entails you being invulnerable, so you couldn't be split into atoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Could you be alive if you were torn into atoms? I really don't think so, well maybe 'spiritually' but still...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Oh and being inside a black hole would be a bit more complicated then being torn into atoms. A black hole is a singularity, which is essentially a particle of infinite gravity that is the size of a proton... So to be inside a black hole you are inside a proton (along with the hundreds of stars and other matter that has already fallen into it.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really wonder what that would be like.

[Joey2cool]

Immortality is complicated. You can't die, ever. Imagine living for 20,000,000 years. I imagine you would get pretty sick of it after the first 500. No to mention the milky way is on a collison course with the Andromeda galaxy so in 3 billion years the sun and planets will all probably collide with other objects and in the end after billions of years you will eventually end up in a black hole. Alone. In darkness. For eternity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to be pedantic (and i know, ironically, i cant spell it), when andromeda and the milky way do collide, the chance of a planet or star colliding is almost zero because of the vastness of distance between them within our own galaxy. Secondly in 10^101 years, (10 with 101 zeros after it) the universe will just be an emptyness with only photons zooming around, so old that even the black holes themselves will have evaporated (things do escape from a black hole, just at such a miniscule rate, that its sucking on a "vacuum" is good enough to hold it, a few atoms) but anyway, how wud u survive that? :P

[l0rd]

you are clinically dead when u don't have brain function, so even if you don't have a pulse you are still technically alive