Yeah i know conspiracy theorys are for hippies. Last night i watched Mission impossible III and while it was incredibly stupid i applied real like people and stuff to the characters and that and then i realised something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does the CIA ect. spend all there money on and what do they spies do? and then had a stupid theory that i want to share. What if terriorists are the CIA taking out people they dont like and blowing up the building and blaming it on terriorists and using the media as propoganda to gain public support for the war on iraq, or just to cover it up. Not that outragious, i mean they did make up lies about iraq having nukes, ive watched to much james bond.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just a fun discussion - post your joke theorys! WHAT IF IT WAS REAL!

The CIAs money usually goes into the following. Wages, surviellance fees (satellites, aerial photography etc. etc.) the other part goes into bribing locals to spie and give information. You can really find out alot by going to the CIA website, I found out alot about them by going to Defense Intelligence and Diplomacy conferenc in Washington DC this october.

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FICTIONAL biography. :lol: Don't go getting the wrong idea about Jack Bauer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic now, the CIA uses most of its funding for field agents and case officers that keep track of terrorist organizations, in a nutshell.

What if terriorists are the CIA taking out people they dont like and blowing up the building and blaming it on terriorists and using the media as propoganda to gain public support for the war on iraq

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry is your second question; What if the CIA were terrorists who killed people the didnt like? (Im paraphrasing just to clear up what you meant). If it is then my answer is below;

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As outlandish as that theory is, it isnt completely impossible. After the Cuban revolution the US Department of Defence had a similar plan for Cuba called Operation Northwoods. Northwoods was a plan to carry out/ simulate terrorist activities against civilians on either Cuban or US soil in order to gain support for a US military invasion of Cuba.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuban_Project

Well. I assume a lot goes into research, collecting information from official sources and their own sources, possibly bribes and not to forget: Logistics..

Not that outragious

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wrong.

Russian spies. You need to watch out for them, ya'know, because those Russian's are watching us with their fancy Sputnik, and their spies which are everywhere.

btw, the organization in 24 isn't CIA, it's a branch of CIA, CTU (counter-terrorist unit)

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24 is horrible. Watching Jack Bauer do stuff is awesome, but then it cuts back to CTU and you have to sit through 10 minutes of idiotic and useless women whining and betraying each other. 24 needs to be Bauer and Chloe only.

Are you watching out for the MLB also :shock: .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/Obscure? I hope not...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You really think in an organisation that employs thousands of people they'd all be corrupt like that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what makes you think they all want the Iraq war as well? Government organisations leak, that's a fact. No way would they stay clean this long if they're up to that kind of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why would they want to gain public support for Iraq either? They're intelligence not the oil companies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd been looking for that picture for ages, Indy.

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24 is horrible. Watching Jack Bauer do stuff is awesome, but then it cuts back to CTU and you have to sit through 10 minutes of idiotic and useless women whining and betraying each other. 24 needs to be Bauer and Chloe only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You make it sound like 24 is some sort of a made up show

 

Not that outragious

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read about 'operation northwoods' and tell me why it's absolutely impossible? It involved exactly similar strategies, hijacking aeroplanes, conducting terrorist strikes on civilians, to gain public support to wage war against Cuba.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a factual basis, not on a 'conspiracy' theory one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

24 is horrible. Watching Jack Bauer do stuff is awesome, but then it cuts back to CTU and you have to sit through 10 minutes of idiotic and useless women whining and betraying each other. 24 needs to be Bauer and Chloe only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holy *, thanks for that post. Now if only I could force feed that message to the producers. The exact reason why I don't really care that much about 24, though in other aspects it's a good series.

Just watch "Mystery of the Urinal Duece", an episode of South Park. It will explain everything to you!

You really think in an organisation that employs thousands of people they'd all be corrupt like that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what makes you think they all want the Iraq war as well? Government organisations leak, that's a fact. No way would they stay clean this long if they're up to that kind of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why would they want to gain public support for Iraq either? They're intelligence not the oil companies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For an organisation to be corrupt does not require every member to be corrupt, just the ones at the top. Those below may believe they are working for a just cause. That's how corrupt governments get away with it.

btw, the organization in 24 isn't CIA, it's a branch of CIA, CTU (counter-terrorist unit)

 

 

 

There is no such thing as CTU. The entire agency is total fiction

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You should watch 24. It's a biography of a federal agent.

 

 

 

:wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and watch James Bond to see a day in the life of a British agent -.-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gah, not to be rude, but wow; you can't be further from the truth. The real CIA is nothing like that, which is unfortunate because my friends always say that sorta occupation is right up my alley :(

 

 

 

First off if you want a good, relatively accurate display of what the CIA does, watch some Tom Clancy movies (or much better yet, read the books). I was seriously considering government Intelligence/Poly Sci as my career and I did a good chuck of research into the matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What the CIA does and does not do, shown in examples (+ is accurate, - means total fantasy):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- James Bond

 

 

 

- 24

 

 

 

- M.I. Series

 

 

 

- The Recruit (movie)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+ The Company: A Novel of the CIA (essentially non fiction of what they did in the past 50 years)

 

 

 

+ Red Rabbit (Tom Clancy novel)

 

 

 

+ The Cardinal and the Kremlin (Tom Clancy novel)

 

 

 

+ heck even Hunt for the Red October, while a fictional plot, shows how the CIA works

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anyway, now back to the actual topic. Does the CIA have a conspiracy theory? Have you seen what state they are in lately? -.- Heck, that's practically why I gave up on that career. I mean for starters every other week they are in the news for messing up something or other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The CIA isn't how it was in the cold war, back then it was so secretive that the people that ran the cafeteria were all legally blind and were told they worked in a mall. Today high schools can go on a field trip and get tours of the building and take pictures in the lobby. Over 25% of its employees are Arabic/Farsi translators and just work in cubicals listening to recorded phone conversations of people in Iraq, with <1% of them getting useful information. All those "secret spy satellite" related things are done at the N.R.O. (national reconnaissance office). Not to mention there can't really be any massive secret illegal black ops because pretty much everything has to be approved by the Senate Intelligence Committee, who decide what to fund.

 

 

 

I mean the whole thing really isn't as exciting as you would think, even the "field agents" are just guys that work in embassies and go out and hire local citizens to do the actual spying for them. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think about it, if the CIA was even 1/10th as powerful as people seem to assume it is, why didn't they find Osama bin Laden yet? I mean if they caught him before the election Republicans would still have control on the Senate, and they will soon lose the White House due to this mess.

 

 

 

Why not bring in the man that would keep these supossibly evil corrupt politicians in power? Oh thats right, because they can't. And if they can't catch a elderly man hiding in an area smaller then Road Island.... do you honestly think they can pull off a conspiracy theory?

Just watch "Mystery of the Urinal Duece", an episode of South Park. It will explain everything to you!

 

 

 

hahahahaha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kyle: So wait...who who was behind 9/11

 

 

 

Stan: Some pissed off Muslims. What are you, [developmentally delayed]ed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was an amazing episode.

Russian spies. You need to watch out for them, ya'know, because those Russian's are watching us with their fancy Sputnik, and their spies which are everywhere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes we are. We certainly are.

Russian spies. You need to watch out for them, ya'know, because those Russian's are watching us with their fancy Sputnik, and their spies which are everywhere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, I love the 50s. :wink:

 

Russian spies. You need to watch out for them, ya'know, because those Russian's are watching us with their fancy Sputnik, and their spies which are everywhere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, I love the 50s. :wink:

 

 

 

The Russians tapped my grandpa's phone when he went there in the 60's.

 

 

 

Cool or what?

 

 

Russian spies. You need to watch out for them, ya'know, because those Russian's are watching us with their fancy Sputnik, and their spies which are everywhere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, I love the 50s. :wink:

 

 

 

The Russians tapped my grandpa's phone when he went there in the 60's.

 

 

 

Cool or what?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone's phone was tapped in the Soviet Union. Heck, even the PAYPHONES on the streets were tapped. When Yakov Smirnoff said "In Soviet Russia, TV watches you" he was being serious.