Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Google links are blocked on tip.it (huzzah! :roll:) apparently, so I can't post the one I'm watching like I wanted to. If you want to see it, it's on Google Video and it's of the same title and consists of part 1 & 2. But I have two things to say... First: Does anyone know where to find the rest of 'em? I've spent two hours watching 1 & 2, and he's mentioned up to "Six" so far, so I'm looking to watch the other four. I enjoyed the first two, but was left with many questions I would have asked him. If anyone could direct me to them, I'd appreciate it. Second: I recommend ya'll watch them. They're pretty interesting and so far he has yet to show anything more than a spoonful of Christian bias, which is refreshing. You can only sense it a lil' bit...For the most part, you wouldn't even be able to tell, without assuming, that he was religious at all. I wasn't aware that so many things in text books were so far outdated, yet still included. I'm not one to just take something someone says as fact just because it SOUNDS good, especially when they're biased, but I did a lil' research and it would seem pretty much everything the guy has said was true. Now, I don't know about the whole 6,000 year old Earth crap, but I'd have to admit, science is teaching us misinformation on some parts of "science". ...Of course, I don't think religion should be taught in it's place, but Doubleyou Tee Eff! Don't flat-out tell things that aren't true, amirite? But even if he were lying aswell, it wouldn't matter, I still enjoyed it - he's a pretty good speaker. So yea, if anyone knows where part 3-6 is, throw me a PM or post 'er here if you can without it being cencored by the local Tip.it Soviet. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Reasons Kent Hovind is stupid: [*:38hyxxn0]His 'Ph.D' is from an unaccredited university, and is in religious education [*:38hyxxn0]He's currently charged with 58 federal crimes [*:38hyxxn0]He has been found guilty on all charges of tax evasion against him [*:38hyxxn0]He's been caught lying in his debates, papers and to the IRS [*:38hyxxn0]He fraudulently declared himself bankrupt, lying about his possessions and income [*:38hyxxn0]He's currently in prison, awaiting sentencing on January the 9th 2007 [*:38hyxxn0]He thinks democracy is evil and contrary to god's law [*:38hyxxn0]Hovind, who runs the Creation Science Evangelism ministry from Pensacola, Fla., says the whole Bible is literally true and that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. While that may seem par for the creationist course, Hovind also sells anti-Semitic books like Fourth Reich of the Rich and has recommended The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a book blaming the world's problems on a Jewish conspiracy. [*:38hyxxn0]His supposed $250,000 offer is logically flawed, and his definition of evolution is not the scientific one Hell, even plenty of creationists despise him for undermining their cause with such flawed arguments. For more info on why you shouldn't listen to him: http://www.kent-hovind.com (contains counters to pretty much ALL of his crackpot arguments) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_hovind#Legal_problems The bottom line: He's a crackpot who, when presented with proof that he is wrong, ignores it. Much like Xplsvbam. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromagus Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2571/ http://web.archive.org/web/200503130642 ... hovind.asp Even fellow creationists disagree with the guy. My Tip.It Times Articles (10 and counting) || The Varrock Library Author Index projectDo you dare to dream? - Part 19 added. || The Hospital (WIP) - New story!Necromagus looks like a viking ... with glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHorror Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 *puts on sarcasm tags* [sarcasm] Yeah I mean the theory that organisms evolved into various creatures is so stupid! The chruches theory is so much better."Everything magically poofs into what it is!"{sarcasm} pfft what a yutz evoultion is pretty much a fact. I mean crap man, thats like his stomach plug on the ground back there, I mean im know doctor but that seems impossible due to body organs and cartelidge, i mean that was just one clean chunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Reasons Kent Hovind is stupid: [*:39scdzy6]His 'Ph.D' is from an unaccredited university, and is in religious education [*:39scdzy6]He's currently charged with 58 federal crimes [*:39scdzy6]He has been found guilty on all charges of tax evasion against him [*:39scdzy6]He's been caught lying in his debates, papers and to the IRS [*:39scdzy6]He fraudulently declared himself bankrupt, lying about his possessions and income [*:39scdzy6]He's currently in prison, awaiting sentencing on January the 9th 2007 [*:39scdzy6]He thinks democracy is evil and contrary to god's law [*:39scdzy6]Hovind, who runs the Creation Science Evangelism ministry from Pensacola, Fla., says the whole Bible is literally true and that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. While that may seem par for the creationist course, Hovind also sells anti-Semitic books like Fourth Reich of the Rich and has recommended The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a book blaming the world's problems on a Jewish conspiracy. [*:39scdzy6]His supposed $250,000 offer is logically flawed, and his definition of evolution is not the scientific one Hell, even plenty of creationists despise him for undermining their cause with such flawed arguments. For more info on why you shouldn't listen to him: http://www.kent-hovind.com (contains counters to pretty much ALL of his crackpot arguments) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_hovind#Legal_problems The bottom line: He's a crackpot who, when presented with proof that he is wrong, ignores it. Much like Xplsvbam. I just met a fundamentalist like this yesterday. Or sort of. When I gave her the verse that says woman shouldn't speak in church, she agreed. I was like :shock: Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Please let's keep this as a topic about why Dr. Dino is wrong; not a general evolution vs. creationism debate - there are plenty of those already. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 Or we can do what I posted for; give me the links to his other 4 video's, if you know of them. I wanted no debate (I knew one would start, but I didn't want one) and I don't agree with him, I just thought it was interesting. Of course I don't believe we should teach religion instead. And all Church leaders are charged with crimes. It's what they do, or somethin'. Ya' got Ted Haggard humpin' guys and saying it's wrong, ya' got a ton of them charged with fraud and tax evasion... Yea, I don't listen to them. For obvious reasons. I just wanted to watch the other. darn. videos. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Wow, this guy sounds like a perfect fit for U.S. Congress ^_^ Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 From your original post it sounds a lot like you were taking them as fact, or at least considering him a credible source. Therefore I considered it important that you know a bit about the guy who is spouting that sputum. Also, your original post isn't just trying to get links to the other videos - it is recommending others watch the videos. Therefore I was well entitled to recommend the contrary, along with providing evidence why the man is a crackpot. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 From your original post it sounds a lot like you were taking them as fact, or at least considering him a credible source. Therefore I considered it important that you know a bit about the guy who is spouting that sputum. You see my posts. Do I seem to be one who would listen to such ramble? The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 You see my posts. Do I seem to be one who would listen to such ramble? I wasn't aware that so many things in text books were so far outdated, yet still included. I'm not one to just take something someone says as fact just because it SOUNDS good, especially when they're biased, but I did a lil' research and it would seem pretty much everything the guy has said was true. Now, I don't know about the whole 6,000 year old Earth crap, but I'd have to admit, science is teaching us misinformation on some parts of "science". Evidently so. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 You see my posts. Do I seem to be one who would listen to such ramble? I wasn't aware that so many things in text books were so far outdated, yet still included. I'm not one to just take something someone says as fact just because it SOUNDS good, especially when they're biased, but I did a lil' research and it would seem pretty much everything the guy has said was true. Now, I don't know about the whole 6,000 year old Earth crap, but I'd have to admit, science is teaching us misinformation on some parts of "science". Evidently so. I said twice in that statement I didn't believe it, and once that science was teaching us some shady stuff. And they are. I researched everything he brought up a bit (paused the movie to check :P) and there were several sites I found just on google that were NOT Christian-babble websites saying the same thing. I don't believe dinosaurs jumped around with humans, lol. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 You see my posts. Do I seem to be one who would listen to such ramble? I wasn't aware that so many things in text books were so far outdated, yet still included. I'm not one to just take something someone says as fact just because it SOUNDS good, especially when they're biased, but I did a lil' research and it would seem pretty much everything the guy has said was true. Now, I don't know about the whole 6,000 year old Earth crap, but I'd have to admit, science is teaching us misinformation on some parts of "science". Evidently so. I said twice in that statement I didn't believe it, and once that science was teaching us some shady stuff. And they are. I researched everything he brought up a bit (paused the movie to check :P) and there were several sites I found just on google that were NOT Christian-babble websites saying the same thing. I don't believe dinosaurs jumped around with humans, lol. Science is a work in progress, you can never expect it to be 100% sure or accurate about things. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 Oh for God's sake... The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Anesthesia, you officially won this thread. :P It did sound interesting, but Tigra, how do you know that guy isn't lying about the biology books lying? If it's one supposive lie against another, I trust the books to be closer to the truth. It's possible that they are outdated in many cases, but this guy sounds like he's got too much of a bias, and above that, just doesn't seem all there from all of those charges. (Oh, and loved the Xplsv reference. So true. Sorry xp - it is) Edit - I realize you only want to watch it to see a different opinion, but you have to expect some discussion other than just getting an answer. This isn't a help and advice board, it's a discussion board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 Damnit, people. For the last time, I just wanted to WATCH THEM. They were "interesting", meaning that I like to hear about other people's interpretations of things. I DON'T NEED TO BELIEVE THEM TO HEAR THEM. Yet here I am. On Tip.it. Where even when I say I DON'T believe something, people try to prove me wrong. :-s The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runemetsa Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Yet here I am. On Tip.it. Where even when I say I DON'T believe something, people try to prove me wrong. :-s Well, not too long time ago, there was this thread about shark that bit off boy's leg. In that thread everybody agreed that shark should not be killed, but still everyone argued about that, even when everyone shared the same opinion. everything is possible on OT :P [Star Wreck][PM me][My gallery][DeviantArt][Cool T-shirts!][iron Sky - Trailer is now out!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 To be honest I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or argue with you. I was just trying to make sure people knew that the guy is a fraudster, a criminal and a crackpot. Anyone who might potentially watch those videos. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Well, not too long time ago, there was this thread about shark that bit off boy's leg. In that thread everybody agreed that shark should not be killed, but still everyone argued about that, even when everyone shared the same opinion. everything is possible on OT :P Ahem, sorry for being off-topic, but I was all for that shark being delicious and a good use of a harpoon. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runemetsa Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Well, not too long time ago, there was this thread about shark that bit off boy's leg. In that thread everybody agreed that shark should not be killed, but still everyone argued about that, even when everyone shared the same opinion. everything is possible on OT :P Ahem, sorry for being off-topic, but I was all for that shark being delicious and a good use of a harpoon. Okay, okay, everyone EXCLUDING rocketman, who wanted to eat that shark. [Star Wreck][PM me][My gallery][DeviantArt][Cool T-shirts!][iron Sky - Trailer is now out!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Well, not too long time ago, there was this thread about shark that bit off boy's leg. In that thread everybody agreed that shark should not be killed, but still everyone argued about that, even when everyone shared the same opinion. everything is possible on OT :P I didn't think the shark should not be killed. I also didn't think it should be killed. I thought it best to leave the decision up to the family. Personally, it wouldn't be worth the time and money to kill it. But if they wanted to, it's their choice. /OT I just wanted to know, your title says 100 reasons, yet you say two videos gave you six reasons. Was the title supposed to be 10 reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Reasons Kent Hovind is stupid: [*:1206flsj]His 'Ph.D' is from an unaccredited university, and is in religious education [*:1206flsj]He's currently charged with 58 federal crimes [*:1206flsj]He has been found guilty on all charges of tax evasion against him [*:1206flsj]He's been caught lying in his debates, papers and to the IRS [*:1206flsj]He fraudulently declared himself bankrupt, lying about his possessions and income [*:1206flsj]He's currently in prison, awaiting sentencing on January the 9th 2007 [*:1206flsj]He thinks democracy is evil and contrary to god's law [*:1206flsj]Hovind, who runs the Creation Science Evangelism ministry from Pensacola, Fla., says the whole Bible is literally true and that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. While that may seem par for the creationist course, Hovind also sells anti-Semitic books like Fourth Reich of the Rich and has recommended The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a book blaming the world's problems on a Jewish conspiracy. [*:1206flsj]His supposed $250,000 offer is logically flawed, and his definition of evolution is not the scientific one Hell, even plenty of creationists despise him for undermining their cause with such flawed arguments. For more info on why you shouldn't listen to him: http://www.kent-hovind.com (contains counters to pretty much ALL of his crackpot arguments) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_hovind#Legal_problems The bottom line: He's a crackpot who, when presented with proof that he is wrong, ignores it. Much like Xplsvbam. It's ok, most Christian leaders hate him, too. Anti-semitics have no place declaring their words the laws of God. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralinre Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Reasons Kent Hovind is stupid: [*:33utmw01]His 'Ph.D' is from an unaccredited university, and is in religious education [*:33utmw01]He's currently charged with 58 federal crimes [*:33utmw01]He has been found guilty on all charges of tax evasion against him [*:33utmw01]He's been caught lying in his debates, papers and to the IRS [*:33utmw01]He fraudulently declared himself bankrupt, lying about his possessions and income [*:33utmw01]He's currently in prison, awaiting sentencing on January the 9th 2007 [*:33utmw01]He thinks democracy is evil and contrary to god's law [*:33utmw01]Hovind, who runs the Creation Science Evangelism ministry from Pensacola, Fla., says the whole Bible is literally true and that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. While that may seem par for the creationist course, Hovind also sells anti-Semitic books like Fourth Reich of the Rich and has recommended The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a book blaming the world's problems on a Jewish conspiracy. [*:33utmw01]His supposed $250,000 offer is logically flawed, and his definition of evolution is not the scientific one Hell, even plenty of creationists despise him for undermining their cause with such flawed arguments. For more info on why you shouldn't listen to him: http://www.kent-hovind.com (contains counters to pretty much ALL of his crackpot arguments) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_hovind#Legal_problems The bottom line: He's a crackpot who, when presented with proof that he is wrong, ignores it. Much like Xplsvbam. It's ok, most Christian leaders hate him, too. Anti-semitics have no place declaring their words the laws of God. I agree. On top of that, I don't believe an honest Christian can be an anti-Semite, considering that Christ, all of the Apostles, most of the early church, and all of the Prophets were all Jews, and that Christianity considers itself the fulfillment of Judaism. There's a natural inconsitancy between Christianity and anti-Semitism. "In so far as I am Man I am the chief of creatures. In so far as I am a man I am the chief of sinners." - G.K. Chesterton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Well, not too long time ago, there was this thread about shark that bit off boy's leg. In that thread everybody agreed that shark should not be killed, but still everyone argued about that, even when everyone shared the same opinion. everything is possible on OT :P I didn't think the shark should not be killed. I also didn't think it should be killed. I thought it best to leave the decision up to the family. Personally, it wouldn't be worth the time and money to kill it. But if they wanted to, it's their choice. /OT I just wanted to know, your title says 100 reasons, yet you say two videos gave you six reasons. Was the title supposed to be 10 reasons? I call double negative on Indy! :P Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Exactly, Astra. The Fundamentalist Christian view of Judaism is our misguided brothers. We still love them just the same. People who hate Jews for killing Christ are the scum that plagues my Faith. The idiots who don't actually study the Word need to shut up instead of giving the actual Christians a bad name. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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