Christmas is..?

[TheLastTemplar]

what is Christmas? How Did it start? who started it? What is the true reason for celebrating Christmas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

plz help.

[Nadril]

Lemme guess... this is for your homework? :lol:

[rushrock]

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

[darkmage099]

A buncha junk on Christmas. Feel free to read it.

[issy2]

Basically the Bible says something along these lines... feel free to contradict me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Virgin Mary was engaged to a man called Joseph, who belonged to the house of David. One day she was visited by an angel, who told her she was to give birth to a son, the son of God, and his name would be Jesu, or Jesus.

 

 

 

She was confused and asked how it was possible as she was a virgin. I can't remember what the angel said next but it was probably about having faith or something.

 

 

 

The Roman Emperor (Augustus?) had arranged a sensus (not sure what for but I think it's when you count all the people in the country) Joseph had to travel to Bethlehem, where he was born, and so he got a donkey and walked from Nazareth. When they arrived it was late at night and all the inns were full. Joseph arranged to borrow a stable for the night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile some shepherds were sleeping in a field when the angel Gabriel told them the son of God was being born, and to go to him, so they did. Far away the Wise Men followed a star towards the stable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus was born in the manger, and the Wise Men gave him frankinsense, (sp?) myrh(sp?) and gold. We celebrate Christmas because it was originally the birth of Christ, but nowadays many people just use the holiday to give presents, eat turkey, and see family.

[TheLastTemplar]

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it was started as a "religious" holiday why take the religious backgrounds out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nadril- If you have seen some of my previous post on other pages you will find out that this is nothing more than a rhetorical question.

[rocketman089]

The Roman Emperor (Augustus?) had arranged a sensus (not sure what for but I think it's when you count all the people in the country)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually I think they killed every boy newborns.

[tripsis]

 

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it was started as a "religious" holiday why take the religious backgrounds out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nadril- If you have seen some of my previous post on other pages you will find out that this is nothing more than a rhetorical question.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my guess:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The modern day gift-giving evolved from the three Wise Men bringing Jesus gifts. Over the years, as new religions developed and Christianity itself changed, Christmas became less and less of a holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ. Sure, some people still do celebrate it for that reason, but now there are more reasons why people celebrate Christmas. Quite a few non-Christians celebrate it as a reason to get together with their families and exchange gifts to one another (three Wise Men). This idea probably came from some of Christianity's teachings such as loving everyone and all that stuff. People just celebrate it in a more general way instead of just celebrating the birth of Jesus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things evolve over time. We really couldn't expect Christmas to keep the exact same meaning forever :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, just my guess :P

[TheLastTemplar]

 

 

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it was started as a "religious" holiday why take the religious backgrounds out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nadril- If you have seen some of my previous post on other pages you will find out that this is nothing more than a rhetorical question.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my guess:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The modern day gift-giving evolved from the three Wise Men bringing Jesus gifts. Over the years, as new religions developed and Christianity itself changed, Christmas became less and less of a holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ. Sure, some people still do celebrate it for that reason, but now there are more reasons why people celebrate Christmas. Quite a few non-Christians celebrate it as a reason to get together with their families and exchange gifts to one another (three Wise Men). This idea probably came from some of Christianity's teachings such as loving everyone and all that stuff. People just celebrate it in a more general way instead of just celebrating the birth of Jesus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things evolve over time. We really couldn't expect Christmas to keep the exact same meaning forever :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, just my guess :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But my question still stands..if it was a religious Holiday why take the religios background from it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Christmas should be celebrated for its true meaning.

[Viktorkrum77]

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Christ was not necessarily born on this day. The Bible never says a specific date, but most historians agree on late spring as a good possibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Christmas was originally a Pagan holiday called Yule, until Christian influence came into play. It has several derivatives, like ancient Englanders used to party on this day, because they were given this freedom by the Crown under King Charles, before and after this, Puritans were in control, and didn't allow it. For a while, there was no Christmas in America, while we were under Puritan control.

[runesmithie]

 

 

 

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it was started as a "religious" holiday why take the religious backgrounds out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nadril- If you have seen some of my previous post on other pages you will find out that this is nothing more than a rhetorical question.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my guess:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The modern day gift-giving evolved from the three Wise Men bringing Jesus gifts. Over the years, as new religions developed and Christianity itself changed, Christmas became less and less of a holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ. Sure, some people still do celebrate it for that reason, but now there are more reasons why people celebrate Christmas. Quite a few non-Christians celebrate it as a reason to get together with their families and exchange gifts to one another (three Wise Men). This idea probably came from some of Christianity's teachings such as loving everyone and all that stuff. People just celebrate it in a more general way instead of just celebrating the birth of Jesus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things evolve over time. We really couldn't expect Christmas to keep the exact same meaning forever :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, just my guess :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But my question still stands..if it was a religious Holiday why take the religios background from it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Christmas should be celebrated for its true meaning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because not everyone has the same beliefs you do. Many non Christians find it a good idea to take some time off and spend time with family and give gifts too ;)

[tripsis]

 

 

 

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it was started as a "religious" holiday why take the religious backgrounds out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nadril- If you have seen some of my previous post on other pages you will find out that this is nothing more than a rhetorical question.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my guess:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The modern day gift-giving evolved from the three Wise Men bringing Jesus gifts. Over the years, as new religions developed and Christianity itself changed, Christmas became less and less of a holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ. Sure, some people still do celebrate it for that reason, but now there are more reasons why people celebrate Christmas. Quite a few non-Christians celebrate it as a reason to get together with their families and exchange gifts to one another (three Wise Men). This idea probably came from some of Christianity's teachings such as loving everyone and all that stuff. People just celebrate it in a more general way instead of just celebrating the birth of Jesus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things evolve over time. We really couldn't expect Christmas to keep the exact same meaning forever :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, just my guess :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But my question still stands..if it was a religious Holiday why take the religios background from it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Christmas should be celebrated for its true meaning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I thought I answered it :oops: Not everyone in the world is Christian. Not everyone believes that Jesus does/did exist. So not everyone will celebrate Christmas for that reason, especially when we're this far into the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, Christmas means more than just celebrating Jesus' birth. It's about showing love for your family, because that's what Jesus taught. So some people do celebrate Christmas for the whole meaning (Jesus' birth and all), while others just take the teaching of love and giving out of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how I'm saying this.. I'm sure most of you get the impression that I'm Christian, but I'm not :ohnoes:

[Faux]

I've always found it [developmentally delayed]ed that atheists celebrate Christmas. No offense.

[insane]

Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore. It's a day to celebrate materialism and greed.

[Viktorkrum77]

I've always found it [developmentally delayed] that atheists celebrate Christmas. No offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I suppose you'd say the same about an Atheist who's studied all sorts of theological religions?

[rocketman089]

 

I've always found it [developmentally delayed] that atheists celebrate Christmas. No offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I suppose you'd say the same about an Atheist who's studied all sorts of theological religions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Celebration. Studying. Very different.

[TheLastTemplar]

 

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Christ was not necessarily born on this day. The Bible never says a specific date, but most historians agree on late spring as a good possibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Christmas was originally a Pagan holiday called Yule, until Christian influence came into play. It has several derivatives, like ancient Englanders used to party on this day, because they were given this freedom by the Crown under King Charles, before and after this, Puritans were in control, and didn't allow it. For a while, there was no Christmas in America, while we were under Puritan control.[/qoute]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm...sounds a bit dodgy..what is your take on Christmas rum77?

[Jaziek]

Christmas means "Christ's" "Mass" of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ was born on this day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people celebrate Christmas anyway without the religious background, but on Christmas we're gathered to be nice to people and give gifts. Christians are gathered to remember the true meaning of Christmas: Remembering the day Christ was born.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but jesus was born in april.

[Faux]

So I suppose you'd say the same about an Atheist who's studied all sorts of theological religions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saying that celebration of a holy day of a religion is on the same level as studying takes stupidity to another level.

[tripsis]

I've always found it [developmentally delayed] that atheists celebrate Christmas. No offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't at all. As insane said, Christmas has developed so much over the years that it's barely religious-based anymore. Now it's more considered as "the time of giving," or "the time of love/celebration."

[runesmithie]

 

 

I've always found it [developmentally delayed] that atheists celebrate Christmas. No offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I suppose you'd say the same about an Atheist who's studied all sorts of theological religions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Celebration. Studying. Very different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although in his case, I'd say yes, he is [developmentally delayed]ed

[rocketman089]

Although in his case, I'd say yes, he is [developmentally delayed]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second that

[Faux]

 

Although in his case, I'd say yes, he is [developmentally delayed]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was what my post was trying to say until I edited it. I don't like insulting people like that... but damn.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

So I suppose you'd say the same about an Atheist who's studied all sorts of theological religions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saying that celebration of a holy day of a religion is on the same level as studying takes stupidity to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably. I wasn't really thinking when I wrote that post.

[dwarfdude3]

Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore. It's a day to celebrate materialism and greed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very true. And it is a way to increase conformity of mainstream christianity, particularly in America.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not to mention everyone being all happy and cheeful all the time. It pisses me off. I don't want everyone to be all angry all the time either, but really, its just kinda too much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I know nobody likes me, why do we need a holiday season to emphasize it?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Charlie Brown.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How do you think Christmas makes all the loners, athestis, jews, forein religious people feel?