Pretzel Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hello everybody. I searched for leetspeak and did not find any topic like this so decided to make one. If there already is one like this please direct me to it. In this topic I want to get a discussion going about how and why certain things in leetspeak are the way they are. Ever wondered why they use an instead of s plox for please, ever wondered why lol or rofl are used for laughter, ever wondered where the word noob originates? Well in this topic you can post your questions and theories as to why certain incomprehensible things they are like this. Let me get the ball rolling. My thoery for why x replaces s in plox for please is that in many foreign languages such as French and indeed Latin, x and s make the same sound and can almost be used interchangably. for example in french 6 is spelt six (same as english) but is pronounced 'siss'. C'mon everyone, I know with as many people as there are, there's bound to be some people who know a few things about linguistics and could greatly contribute to this discussion. Free to Player fo' life!99/99 skateboarding :pwhy dont you use this awesome thing i like to call common sense. Its done wonders for me, ive never been hacked, scammed or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysniff Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Most are anagrams if that is of any help. Maybe noob and newb are also anagrams. N definitely stands for new on newb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Most are anagrams if that is of any help. Maybe noob and newb are also anagrams. N definitely stands for new on newb. N 'standing for something' would make it an acronym, not an anagram. However, it is neither. Noob is an alternate spelling of newb, which in turn is a shortened version of newbie - which is not 'leetspeak' and is used in fields other than games. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calitoker90 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Darn happy you just got a morning beat down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Let me get the ball rolling. My thoery for why x replaces s in plox for please is that in many foreign languages such as French and indeed Latin, x and s make the same sound and can almost be used interchangably. for example in french 6 is spelt six (same as english) but is pronounced 'siss'. I sincerely doubt that the unintelligent losers who created 13375p34k actually give a damn what x means in Latin. Anyway, I think it started out with people missing out letters in words, then evolved into something more complex. For instances, before the word 'noob' there was 'newb' and before that, 'newbie' a common term indicating little knowledge of the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Leet finds its base in written communication over electronic media. Most simply, it has evolved as a way of forming exclusive cliques in online communities, notably Bulletin Board Systems and online multiplayer games (see Examples of Leet in videogaming). It has been noted that the mechanism began because early online communication was quite slow, and people sought ways to shorten messages, so that they could be delivered more quickly. A similarly probable answer is that early users of BBS systems and other online boards were not skilled typists and thus shortened words so they could get their message across faster. A simple number-to-letter transposition cipher had also been used to send short text messages from telephone keypads to numeric-only pagers; the recipient could turn the LCD display upside-down so that the blocky digits resembled letters (for example, 07734 ̢̢̮ââ¬Ã Ã¢ââ‰â¢ hELLO.).[3] Some believe that the origin involved using a dynamic cipher, so that only experienced users would be privy to the message.[citations needed] As a result, newcomers would be excluded from communications with those who had defined (and continued to evolve) the cipher. When modem use became widespread and a large general audience gained access to online communication systems, these new users did not understand the abbreviations commonly used by the experienced users. These experienced users became known as ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åelite users,̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 The reason theres no topic for leetspeak is because we killed the posters in the past. :-k EDIT: 3333 post count lol. :lol: The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompey_spud Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 well i think its fairly obvious that 'pwn' is a mispelling of 'own', so theres a little origin for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddrmaster7 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 I always thought that leetspeak was a way for certain groups of people to communicate without having the non-educated being able to understand. Hence, only the elite people were able to chat with each other. Then, everyone started using leetspeak and it because a widespread internet language. "Plx" and "plox" are just mispellings of "plz". If you notice, the z and the x are right next to each other on a standard keyboard. So a person says "free stuff plx", it catches on, and "plx" is the new "plz". Then, people tried saying "plx" out loud, which sounds like "plox". Tada. At least, that's how I think of it.'' And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. Ranked top 15 in the world for In The Groove. Click to watch videos.I'm back! For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. HAHAHA! WoW wasn't even out when that became big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. "Pwn" has been used since before WoW. It gained popularity in the same way in which you said 'plx' did. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSOfr33k Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. HAHAHA! WoW wasn't even out when that became big. Actually, I seem to recall hearing something about one of the Warcrafts (not WoW) having mispelled "owned" with "pwned" o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star. Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 There is chatspeak and leetspeak, chatspeak is with you = "u" your = "ur" and leetspeak is when you try to find other numbers to replace letters.. atleast that's what I've always thought. ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ CAUTION ☢ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. HAHAHA! WoW wasn't even out when that became big. Actually, I seem to recall hearing something about one of the Warcrafts (not WoW) having mispelled "owned" with "pwned" o.o Yep, it was one of the earlier ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hello everybody. I searched for leetspeak and did not find any topic like this so decided to make one. If there already is one like this please direct me to it. In this topic I want to get a discussion going about how and why certain things in leetspeak are the way they are. Ever wondered why they use an instead of s plox for please, ever wondered why lol or rofl are used for laughter, ever wondered where the word noob originates? Well in this topic you can post your questions and theories as to why certain incomprehensible things they are like this. Let me get the ball rolling. My thoery for why x replaces s in plox for please is that in many foreign languages such as French and indeed Latin, x and s make the same sound and can almost be used interchangably. for example in french 6 is spelt six (same as english) but is pronounced 'siss'. C'mon everyone, I know with as many people as there are, there's bound to be some people who know a few things about linguistics and could greatly contribute to this discussion. leet speek was originally created by hackers to hide meaning for what they where saying ("leet" meaning elete) and was later adopted by gamers used in chat programs in games so the opposistion couldnt tell what they were saying (i use it, lol). thats pretty much all i nkow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 leet speek was originally created by hackers to hide meaning for what they where saying ("leet" meaning elete) and was later adopted by gamers used in chat programs in games so the opposistion couldnt tell what they were saying (i use it, lol). thats pretty much all i nkow. No... If the opposition used leet speak... Then their opposition used it... Do I smell time paradox? It was generally used to bypass filters and go un-noticed with searches. Like it said in what I quoted, a search for say; "cork" would return all posts with the word in it, but if it was spelt with a zero, "c0rk", it wouldn't be returned. There is chatspeak and leetspeak, chatspeak is with you = "u" your = "ur" and leetspeak is when you try to find other numbers to replace letters.. atleast that's what I've always thought. Truth. "Chat speak" came about in an attempt to shorten messages, usually for SMS (text messages) which used to have a small character limit. But sadly some people got on to computers and do the same, even on forums which have seemingly limitless character limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddrmaster7 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 And yes, in World of Warcraft, one of the game designers mispelled "own" in a dialogue box or something as "pwn", which lead to its popularity. HAHAHA! WoW wasn't even out when that became big. Actually, I seem to recall hearing something about one of the Warcrafts (not WoW) having mispelled "owned" with "pwned" o.o Yep, it was one of the earlier ones. Hmmm, I suppose I must go kill my friend for telling me that. Excuse me. Ranked top 15 in the world for In The Groove. Click to watch videos.I'm back! For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralinre Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hmmm, I suppose I must go kill my friend for telling me that. Excuse me. Season's beatings? "In so far as I am Man I am the chief of creatures. In so far as I am a man I am the chief of sinners." - G.K. Chesterton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hmmm, I suppose I must go kill my friend for telling me that. Excuse me. Season's beatings? I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune2thescape Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Nerds started it to avoid chat filters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 so basically what most of you are saying is that its just mindless misspellings and SMS short hand that produced this, with no sort of linguistics involved at all. An idiot's english in other words. Alright fair enough, nothing unexpected there, but what about where some of the acronyms come from? i mean, I'm rolling on the floor laughing (rofl) and I'm laughing my *** off (lmao), are almost something you could say in real life, but lol? I'm laughing out loud? doesn't quite sound right. Free to Player fo' life!99/99 skateboarding :pwhy dont you use this awesome thing i like to call common sense. Its done wonders for me, ive never been hacked, scammed or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Let me get the ball rolling. My thoery for why x replaces s in plox for please is that in many foreign languages such as French and indeed Latin, x and s make the same sound and can almost be used interchangably. for example in french 6 is spelt six (same as english) but is pronounced 'siss'. I sincerely doubt that the unintelligent losers who created 13375p34k actually give a damn what x means in Latin. Anyway, I think it started out with people missing out letters in words, then evolved into something more complex. For instances, before the word 'noob' there was 'newb' and before that, 'newbie' a common term indicating little knowledge of the subject. x do's not mean s they just say it LIKE s a real s is stil different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo_killer6 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 i always thought that using number for letteres in leet originated from text messaging where its faster to use a number than a letter cause letters take more button presses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopingman Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 There is no REAL reason to type like this, it is silly. Anyone who uses it often and seriously has issues.. Metal fans, check out my band!Still the King.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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