Personally i think the RS pking is fine the way it is. JaGEX should have certain areas in the wildy that arent in the wildy. Like the bank at the mage arena.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, my real point is pking in general. If you die in the wildy and loose everything i think it is your own fault. You (the dead and sad players) took the risk of going into the wildy so it is your fault. But, do avoid losing items BANK THEM or go into an empty world

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, the bank at the mage arena is out of the wildy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second of all, this isn't about pking this is about RC pking.

It's unfair but what I hate the most is that you loose your pouches....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everytime a rc'er gets killed he has to spend atleast 1-2 hours in the abyss killing monsters to get his pouches back, does that sound nice to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pkers should pick on someone of there own size 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw: I used to be p2p and craft nats...

It's unfair but what I hate the most is that you loose your pouches....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everytime a rc'er gets killed he has to spend atleast 1-2 hours in the abyss killing monsters to get his pouches back, does that sound nice to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't blow it up. It takes an half an hour max (and you can just ask the smal pouch back from the mage in the middle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And for people who say it takes no skill to kill rc pkers. Just bring full black d hide, bear head, sara book, god/legends cape and a one click teleport. You must be a pretty good mage if have to cast first tele block and then entange before he gets too the mage. And even then you only have 15 secs before he gets to the mage. I can't ko someone at my level in 15 secs.

 

It's unfair but what I hate the most is that you loose your pouches....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everytime a rc'er gets killed he has to spend atleast 1-2 hours in the abyss killing monsters to get his pouches back, does that sound nice to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't blow it up. It takes an half an hour max (and you can just ask the smal pouch back from the mage in the middle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And for people who say it takes no skill to kill rc pkers. Just bring full black d hide, bear head, sara book, god/legends cape and a one click teleport. You must be a pretty good mage if have to cast first tele block and then entange before he gets too the mage. And even then you only have 15 secs before he gets to the mage. I can't ko someone at my level in 15 secs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aren't the pouches random drops? i remember spending about 2 hours getting them once.

I'm against rc pking ( if you want to call it pking ).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't go rambling about how your risking your stuff going into the wild please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you knew someone was going to go into the wild defenceless into the wild and killed them, is that actually a pk? I think of it more like foreshaddowing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you rc pk, you should really try to pk somewhere else ( and no agility and green drags doesn't count ) and if you can't, just stop pking and go train.

I think of it more like foreshaddowing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Huh? please explain

hmmmm interesting, I made a similar thread about a year ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am A avid non-pker (although I have buried quite a few wannabes who had the audacity to bother me while I was doing clues..hehe) 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However I understand both sides...the wildy is just that...wild and dangerous..blah blah blah, dont go there unless you want to die...blah blah...dont bring anyhting your not willing to lose...blah bla bla blah. I get it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The other side, is it is beyond annoying when I see 5 giggling adolescents screaming "pooned!", "owned"...."ROFL"...just because they managed to kill a nekkid RCER wearing nothing but a glory....WOW!, you big tough guy you, did you really manage to kill someone who was unarmed? I am impressed. How about meeeting me when I am armed? funny how when I bank, arm and run back up forming a ice barrage in one fist and swinging my whip with the other they vanish. Nothing sadder then being 124+ and pking another unarmed hi lev minding his own business. Feel tough now? Why dont you wait until I return so I can mop the floor with your ( i ) ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer? spineless. You see it takes no skill to jump an unarmed person, now if you truly are doing it because rather then playing the game, you wish to be a unpaid servant of Jagex by defending the Abyss :roll: then just dispatch him/her without all the juvenile antics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me of CW in a way, I am under a pile of 15 player slapping zeros and an occasional lucky 6 or 8 on me, and when I finally die due to the 15 to 1 ratio, the level 42 screams "OWNT!"....yup, you killed me big guy :XD: :ohnoes: :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I take a quik peek up ahead as I am running, if I see a 120+, I go back to the bank and get a load of toys...and run back supposedly nekkid. oooops what happened? ...(done this 3 times) and when I click on robes and a water staff watch them log. spineless once again.

 

 

 

- bring food (safer but less runes per run thus less efficient)

I believe bringing a sara brew(4) is pretty helpful since it gives you defence and hp. Once i got tbed/entangled, it totally saved me

 

 

 

 

- bring food (safer but less runes per run thus less efficient)

I believe bringing a sara brew(4) is pretty helpful since it gives you defence and hp. Once i got tbed/entangled, it totally saved me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a good idea, because it fits all in one space. The usual problem is that people for example bring 3 or 4 sharks. This considerably harms their production. Remember the goal is to make as many nats as possible, so focusing on that is a priority and finding ways to dodge the pkers is secondary. However you've found something that's usefull while only taking up one space, which is a pretty good deal.

 

 

 

 

- bring food (safer but less runes per run thus less efficient)

I believe bringing a sara brew(4) is pretty helpful since it gives you defence and hp. Once i got tbed/entangled, it totally saved me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's incredible! You must be pretty good if you can kill someone in 20 secs while he has a sara pot. So now, the rcers can stop whining, finally!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note: I never rc pk, I'm mostly the crafter.

It's unfair but what I hate the most is that you loose your pouches....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everytime a rc'er gets killed he has to spend atleast 1-2 hours in the abyss killing monsters to get his pouches back, does that sound nice to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pkers should pick on someone of there own size 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw: I used to be p2p and craft nats...

You can drop your pouches if you're about to die, then make a quick tele to edge and go grab your pouches, if you have to die again, put protect item on for your 4th pouch if you have 75+rc that is

I have experience in both. I runecraft using the abyss, and I've pked some runecrafters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pros To Runecraft Pking

 

 

 

-It's free glories.

 

 

 

-Supplies the pker with things to runecraft with.

 

 

 

-Gives you something to do when you're bored.

 

 

 

-It's challenging.

 

 

 

-It's fun.

 

 

 

-It pisses people off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cons To Runecraft Pking

 

 

 

-Possibility to get pked yourself.

 

 

 

-Pouches can be lost. In my opinion they don't take that long to get back.

 

 

 

-And some others. I runecraft pk and I haven't really had many cons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the runecrafters-

 

 

 

If you die it's your own fault. Don't come into the wilderness expecting to be safe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To everyone-

 

 

 

Runecraft pkers aren't the scum you say we are. WE CAN PK REAL PKERS. You can ask B 50 2. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm done. Cya later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will not be runecraft pking on world 99, if at all.

The way to avoid getting pked is to wear d hides, and have a one-click telly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the tangle hits, telly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If tangle and tb hits...there's nothing I can tell you. Drop glory and pouches?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've only been pked twice. Once I lagged and the other time I wasn't paying attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I won't runecraft pk anymore. Barrows loves me again.

personally, i think it's low to rc pk, simply because theres no resistence. also, no other skillers have to enter the wilderness to do something for their skill, so why should rc'ers? it's just annoying, and i personally think jagex shouldn't have placed the abyss teleport in the wildy, but it's there, and we have to deal with it...

Abyss runecrafting is how i make all my money so personally i think rc pkers should have their heads cut off and turned into nats :).

Having read through the previous six pages, I'd make the following comments - and note I'm a level 71 RC who uses the Abyss and someone who has never PKed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We RCers take the risk using the Abyss for slightly quicker Nature runs (and it is only slightly quicker compared to fairy rings). The PKers are annoying and I often wish they would find something useful to do or find a better challenge for their skills, but and it is a big BUT, they are entitled to do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most Abyss PKers don't know what they are doing and are easily thwarted, occassionally I find one who does know their stuff and fair dos I die but all he gets is a few pure essence. I drop my pouches and glory and get back to them before the minute elapses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The really annoying aspect of the whole thing is when I return with a few surprises for the PKer and they tele / run / log / call you names for returning the favour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion -

 

 

 

RCers - lean the tricks to survive or minimse losses if you are going to use the Abyss. Treat the PKers as no more than annoying gnats.

 

 

 

PKers - lear to take your own medicine when the worm turns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Helios

Very good debate. Other than some one word answers. *glare at certain people*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I honestly don't like rc pkers very much, but I do people if you are going to craft in the wildy its your risk your taking, and that what makes runecrafting a more unique skill compared to some others, with the abbys and everything. It adds more danger to get a better runes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still think fairy rings are the way to go for rcing

im an rcer (150k+ abyss nats) and i have never rc pked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find that people who find themselves killed by rc pkers aren't paying enough attention/ do not have the right defensive items/skills/measures to even be rcing in the first place, the preapred ones like me always stay alive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I leave myself exposed to pks for very brief periods (the time inbetween benig attacked by skeletons and going to the mage) and have full defensive d hide gear on even if my cb stats arent that great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As i go by i talk to the pkers under protection of skeleton and occassionally show them my hunt emote, they aren't too bad people. Besides, without them nat prices would plummet- no risk = no reward. The more reasons we have to edsadurate the risk, the more we get payed and ni can barely call the abyssal monsters risks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rc Pkers occassionally manage to take 100k or so of our stuff but we should thank them for increasing our profits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is not dishnonourable to pk rcers because the wilderness is meant to be a place of risk and it is for pkers, lurers, rc pkers, rcers and alike- pkers being the top of the food chain (other than clans). just like rcers, rc pkers risk their furry buttocks to make afew gp in the rcer- rc pker profit relationship:

 

 

 

rc pker increases rcer profits.

 

 

 

rcer spends extra profits on glories for example.

 

 

 

rcer loses glories to rc pker and they have nboth made more money than they would have done without each other.

if you hate them so much then go out and kill em. get some armour and teach them a lesson. when they lose their items mabe they will think about killing rc.

So far in my 70k nats, I've lost 4 glories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had made 60k dieing once, then died 3 times in 3 days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pouches have taken an hour at most, usually about 20 mins, and once I got in like 8.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dropped my pouches twice, and my glory once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And it has been my fault each and every time I have died.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They're a pain, but not a huge problem, they're usually big noobs who can't pk to save their life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I pked a glory with my rune pick while rc'ing once, no lie.

If the pouches could be gotten back from the mage, I'd no longer care one bit about the pkers.

i am totally for it...i mean, there are ways to not lose your glory if u rc through the abyss...either try to have the highest range bonus possible....(black d hide, archer helm, mystic boots, mage cape...)...although u will still succumb to the teleblocks and entangles of the higher magi out there....(90-99 magers) like me...lol. I take advantage of these rare oppourtunities to kill a runecrafter because 1) i need more glories myself...and 2)why not take advantage of the stupid people who dont know how to runecraft properly? i mean...come on...they are taking risks by going allll the way out in 5 wildy....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if u guys are that paranoid about being pked...then either dont runecraft through the abyss, or find one of the many ways to avoid the runecraft pkers..like...always make sure you are being attacked by a skeleton...or something like that...its not that hard guys....stop whining over a lost glory that u could have prevented yourself from losing in the first place.

Nadril knows what i'm talkin' bout!!! =D>

swampjedi....thats exactly why u drop the pouches before u die, and run back up and get them with ur glory that u protected because u carry a pray pot with u while you are runecrafting....

 

It's unfair but what I hate the most is that you loose your pouches....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everytime a rc'er gets killed he has to spend atleast 1-2 hours in the abyss killing monsters to get his pouches back, does that sound nice to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't blow it up. It takes an half an hour max (and you can just ask the smal pouch back from the mage in the middle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And for people who say it takes no skill to kill rc pkers. Just bring full black d hide, bear head, sara book, god/legends cape and a one click teleport. You must be a pretty good mage if have to cast first tele block and then entange before he gets too the mage. And even then you only have 15 secs before he gets to the mage. I can't ko someone at my level in 15 secs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yea....like i said...it takes higher lvl mages to hit through all that mage defence that the black d hide provides...there are other ways to avoid being rc pked too....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MY STRATEGY: Wield a Bronze Hatchet\Pickaxe

 

 

 

Wear a Glory and Boots of lightness, and or god cape...

 

 

 

INVENTORY: 1 Click tele (ecto for me)

 

 

 

1 shark (helps in dire situations)

 

 

 

1 Prayer potion (so u can protect b4 u die and keep your glory so u can run back up and get ur pouches that u drop b4 u die)

 

 

 

3 Pouches (depends on rc lvl..65k nats to make before i get from 69-75 runecrafting.....-.-!)

 

 

 

The rest.....ESS!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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