Posting Real Life Pictures

[Mercifull]

If posting pictures online really were inherently dangerous then sites such as Flickr, SmugMug, Picasa, Myspace, Ringo, Bebo, , would be shut down in an instant.

[Faux]

I agree with errdoth :-k A poll would not work in this situation. I'm sure that majority of the community would like pictures to be allowed, but it's not a matter of the users' opinion. It's about the safety of our users and the potential risk of allowing people to show and discuss too much personal information.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safety what? I think of all the sites I visit in the Internet, TIF is the only one that doesn't allow pictures. And technically, all users should at least be a teenager. A teenager should know the 'dangers of the internet' at that age.

[Mercifull]

Teenagers do however have a tendancy to ignore the dangers of the internet sometimes.

[Faux]

Adults have a tendency to ignore the dangers of the internet too.. so?

[Errdoth]

 

I agree with errdoth :-k A poll would not work in this situation. I'm sure that majority of the community would like pictures to be allowed, but it's not a matter of the users' opinion. It's about the safety of our users and the potential risk of allowing people to show and discuss too much personal information.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safety what? I think of all the sites I visit in the Internet, TIF is the only one that doesn't allow pictures. And technically, all users should at least be a teenager. A teenager should know the 'dangers of the internet' at that age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

potential risk of allowing people to show and discuss too much personal information.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While it may not be very likely that something will actually happen, the is still the potential risk, as tripsis said, that something can happen.

[Adam007]

 

 

 

While it may not be very likely that something will actually happen, the is still the potential risk, as tripsis said, that something can happen.

 

 

 

Everything in life has potential risk. How can anyone do anything with their lives if all they worry about is the .001% risk involved? I'm not comparing TIF to a person, but like I said earlier, you can't throw away the apple because of one bad seed. Actually I haven't said that. I said that everything has a possibility of danger, but why disallow it because of that? Driving a car has danger. Taking an airplane trip has danger. Crossing the street has danger. Going sledding has danger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Living has danger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, not to compare life to TIF because that's weird, but come on. You can't shy away from anything and everything that has a risk. In this case, the benefits outweigh the minimal risk involved. I shouldn't even say minimal. There's no risk. This is Web 2.0. We have so many social networking sites and 99.9% of the time everything goes fine. It's about time TIF got with the program.

[Parabola]

Allowing people to post their MSN details is just as risky as allowing them to post pictures, if not more so. With that they can view your profile which may well have pictures on it alongside location details. They can type it into social networking site searches and find your profiles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Allowing users to post their own domain names is by far the most risky thing you allow. Much more risky than posting pictures. Anyone can do a whois and get the exact address, full name and phone number of the owner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Banning of RL pictures for 'safety' reasons is unwarranted. If you're determined not to allow them, come up with a more realistic reason - perhaps that you're afraid people will be picked on if they're ugly. But claiming it is for the sake of safety is hypocrisy when you allow the posting of MSN/whatever IM details and the posting of people's own domain names.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, can someone clarify exactly what it is you're scared of happening if you allow RL pictures? Do you think two TIF users will be walking along the street, one will recognise the other and say "omg u flamed me 2 months back - now die"? How can pictures alone cause safety problems?

[wakka102]

Glad to see this topic is still going :D .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a question, some of the admins talk about potential risk of posting a picture. Can anybody (if its even possible) explain how exactly someone will find you through a picture? I don't think its possible to do unless you give out your address or something which is plain stupid and anyone who did that had it coming :lol: . A picture is far less dangerous then even posting your MSN or AIM screen name.

[Faux]

Are admins going to keep ignoring this?

[Ard_Choille]

The following Announcement was made to reflect the Tip.It Administrative Team stance:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personal Information - Rule Clarification

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Due to a number of your very valuable questions about the the amount of personal information allowed on our forums, the Tip.It Forum Rules have been clarified. Thanks to all of you who pointed out the need for clarity and for your patience as your Administrative Team has taken the necessary time to come up with more specific guidelines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please make note of the following:

 

 

 

• 1.9 - Volunteering Personal Information
   
   
   
  
  • Tip.It is a G-rated (suitable for all ages) forum. For your privacy and security, asking for or volunteering certain personal contact information is not permitted. This consists of full name, city of residence, street address, telephone number(s) and password/account details. Photographs are permitted so long as they are not pictures of users, license plates, house numbers, or any of the contact information listed above. This applies to all forum posts, avatars and signatures. Posting any of the above information on private messages/forums is permissible at the user's risk.
     
     
     
    

Please contact an Administrator with any further questions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your Tip.It Administrative Team

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing has changed since this was posted as an announcement and in this reply on February 6th.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Ard

[Parabola]

Feel free to post any questions or comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Administrative Team

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, can someone clarify exactly what it is you're scared of happening if you allow RL pictures? Do you think two TIF users will be walking along the street, one will recognise the other and say "omg u flamed me 2 months back - now die"? How can pictures alone cause safety problems?

[Faux]

Are you guys still looking into it or is that it?

[Adam007]

Based on what was said here:

 

 

 

The rule only covers the public boards. Private communication and private boards such as the ones you listed are not included in the new amended rules for personal information since they are not accessible to the general public. However, users are still reminded of the potential risks of doing so even within the relative seclusion that the private boards offer.

 

 

 

Would it be possible for admins to create a private pictures board where we can sign up in the usergroup menu or straight from off topic? The group would be considered private since it's not a default public room. Why not add it as an extra subforum to off topic that you have to either join in the usergroups menu like NL used to be, have a button in off topic to click on, or make it so you have to pm an admin to get board access? I think this would satisfy both sides of the argument.

[the_tallest1]

Anyway, can someone clarify exactly what it is you're scared of happening if you allow RL pictures? Do you think two TIF users will be walking along the street, one will recognise the other and say "omg u flamed me 2 months back - now die"? How can pictures alone cause safety problems?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The simple response is I would have given you an answer if I had one. My opinion is and has been just like Albosky's on this matter and I cannot fully explain the reasons for disallowing pictures as I don't share them or agree on the matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would it be possible for admins to create a private pictures board where we can sign up in the usergroup menu or straight from off topic? The group would be considered private since it's not a default public room. Why not add it as an extra subforum to off topic that you have to either join in the usergroups menu like NL used to be, have a button in off topic to click on, or make it so you have to pm an admin to get board access? I think this would satisfy both sides of the argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is one of the more helpful posts I've seen since it actually offers a solution that works within the guidelines set up. I'll bring this up to be looked at.

[tripsis]

The main reason why I think pictures should be allowed is that I'm sure many of our users have already seen pictures of each other anyway via clan forums, personal websites, etc. So that makes it almost silly not to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But looking at the other side of the argument, my guess is that the safety risk comes from putting together the information. A picture really won't get you very far when it comes to identifying someone. But if you have their picture, name, age and location, it makes them pretty darn easy to identify. Just a thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if the rule is going to remain how it is, what's wrong with just PMing someone your picture if you want to share it?

[Parabola]

A picture really won't get you very far when it comes to identifying someone. But if you have their picture, name, age and location, it makes them pretty darn easy to identify. Just a thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you've got their name, age and location then either they've been breaking the rules by posting them, or you've seen them on some social networking site. In which case they'll have already seen pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if the rule is going to remain how it is, what's wrong with just PMing someone your picture if you want to share it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why have topics at all? We could just PM everyone our replies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The answer is because it's a huge hassle to PM everyone you want to see something.

[Nedich]

perhaps that you're afraid people will be picked on if they're ugly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, picking on people on an online forum where its optional to post a picture. Whatever next?

[spikerkid]

Agreed. If your fine posting a picture of yourself I don't see why not. Not everyone is comfortable posting pictures though. Only thing wrong with this is that I could see some people harassing other players because they dress a certain way or whatever. Stuff like that is why they don't allow irl pictures on the board.

[Mercifull]

Harassing people based on thier appearance should just be added to the rules as an offence. Problem solved.

[____]

Harassing people based on thier appearance should just be added to the rules as an offence. Problem solved.

IIRC - That was actually part of the rules for the very last "post your pic" thread that scapeboard had.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something like "say nice or get out" kind of approach, which worked.

[Mercifull]

Rick looks like a big doodie head \

[Faux]

Can we have a simple straightforward response from an admin about this topic?

[____]

Can we have a simple straightforward response from an admin about this topic?

Personally I'd just like to see the logic behind all the 'no' votes. I know it isn't going to happen, but one can wish :uhh:

[Adam007]

Can we have a simple straightforward response from an admin about this topic?

 

 

 

Yeah, a delayed response is basically a no response. I still think we should go with my idea, and can't see any reason it wouldn't work since it completely fits with all of the current rules.

[Faux]

And here I thought the administration became better :(