A conspiricy?

[Kill_Thomas9]

Well, I was just thinking back on the fast free law company. Laws used to be 700-1000 each in bulk. Then the fast free laws company came out. Over the course of a few months, laws went from 700-100 to 250-300 each. This made for fast, and very inexpensive magic training with teleports. Just when the company was reaching a peak; their world was full, and their second world was getting very popular, jagex releases an update that they say was to stop autoers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are several things wrong with this explanation. First, there are many other ways to deter autoers that doesn't include ruin money making for thousands of f2pers. Second, Jagex can't seriosly beleive they can do anything about the autoers. They will just keep making fasters ways to mine, and work around the update. Third, after thousands of complaints about what they did wrong, and how they harmed other players, they did nothing to right they're wrong. Even after suggestions of how to make a better update, and how to fix the problem, they have done nothing about it to the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I beleive they may have done this to increase the price of laws, and to slow the inflation, without even more complaining then they got.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify this, I am NOT accusing jagex of a conspiricy. I am asking what other people think of this, and if they believe it is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-~open for discussion~-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

try to keep flaming to a minimum (mainly flaming me for thinking of this) :P .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatcha all think?

[Abyssalwhip]

Laws have been 250-350 for at least a year though i do remember when they were 1k

[Dalcyte]

not really. They needed a way to kill a large quantity of autoeres that dominated that business. It was an update that made rcing harder and money making harder, but i think in a way it was just like blowing up a house with bug bombs. U kill the bugs, but blow up the house too lol :-s

[Kill_Thomas9]

not really. They needed a way to kill a large quantity of autoeres that dominated that business. It was an update that made rcing harder and money making harder, but i think in a way it was just like blowing up a house with bug bombs. U kill the bugs, but blow up the house too lol :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

id call it exterminating bugs with a nuc.

[captianant]

 

not really. They needed a way to kill a large quantity of autoeres that dominated that business. It was an update that made rcing harder and money making harder, but i think in a way it was just like blowing up a house with bug bombs. U kill the bugs, but blow up the house too lol :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

id call it exterminating bugs with a nuc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and yet, like roaches.... They survive to keep annoying the $*&% out of us....

[Karmastocracy]

~locked~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to much of a nooby topic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you dont wanna rune hq thinking that the tip.it/runescape people are noobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

:-s Wanna be moderator? :-s

 

 

 

Anyways who cares what the folks at runehq think!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic, I think that they did it only to keep the FFL busness less controlled by autoers, macro's etc. After all, think about what Paul said on the last "Tip It Times", where he said that they support these things that they never expected would happen. They brought a quest where you can even do it faster too! (Enlightened Journey Quest)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I disagree. :)

[white_widow2]

annnd Pure essence makes p2p autoers + Jagex more money. With pure ess being 100-120 per ess, IMO it made all the f2p autoers become p2p. With that being said, more RL trading is going on AND Jagex is making more money ^.^

[kane531]

makes sence accually... never thought about it that way

[Aresgodowar]

just like when they banned all those auto accounts this past year. all the autoers did was just subscribe to a new account, therefore making jagex double the money they had been making from autoers.

[kane531]

what kind of idiot would make a macro member?

[Aresgodowar]

the people who make rl money by selling rs gold

[n64jive]

I beleive Jagex really doesn't care too much about runescape economy...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fastest way for autoers to make money was Ess mining...Jagex took that fastest way, made it a lil harder, and then did one important thing: Anyone who wants to be an ess mining autoer, now has to pay jagex $5 a month...meaning Jagex makes money from the autoers...This was Jagex's true motive for making Pure ess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This was more then a year ago tho, so I say quit crying over spilt milk, and just forget about it.

[Aresgodowar]

but they didnt clean up the spilt milk so now its grown into a discusting pile of mold and filth.

[berbatovsky]

I didnt actually know why pure essence was different to rune essence (i started after the update and got members 1.5 months ago). Now i do :). I see why this was done and also why this has angered people, it's probably not a conspiracy to make autoers join members though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit:it is Jagex's perogative to use any strategy possible to turn a profit (they are afterall a business). But too many people complain that Jagex's only motivation is money making and this is [cabbage]t. Jagex is one of the few games companies in existance that actually cares about its consumers and their needs/wants (rather than trying to tell their consumers what they want with poorly advised pr/marketing campaigns/stunts).

[biggy08755]

Jagex making pure ess to counter affect prices of laws/inflation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No offence but that kind of seems like a dumb theory...

[Shazarabbit]

Well, I was just thinking back on the fast free law company. Laws used to be 700-1000 each in bulk. Then the fast free laws company came out. Over the course of a few months, laws went from 700-100 to 250-300 each. This made for fast, and very inexpensive magic training with teleports. Just when the company was reaching a peak; their world was full, and their second world was getting very popular, jagex releases an update that they say was to stop autoers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are several things wrong with this explanation. First, there are many other ways to deter autoers that doesn't include ruin money making for thousands of f2pers. Second, Jagex can't seriosly beleive they can do anything about the autoers. They will just keep making fasters ways to mine, and work around the update. Third, after thousands of complaints about what they did wrong, and how they harmed other players, they did nothing to right they're wrong. Even after suggestions of how to make a better update, and how to fix the problem, they have done nothing about it to the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I beleive they may have done this to increase the price of laws, and to slow the inflation, without even more complaining then they got.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify this, I am NOT accusing jagex of a conspiricy. I am asking what other people think of this, and if they believe it is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-~open for discussion~-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

try to keep flaming to a minimum (mainly flaming me for thinking of this) :P .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatcha all think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well firstly i think its a load of garbage because Jagex can attempt to lower prices of items in the game but ultimately its the players who make the final decision. People can't be patient and intend to sell quickly, thus they will sell at whatever price will get them sold quicker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Law Runes are still 1k each on free world, it really depends on the supply. It all comes down to supply Vs demand. People craft Nature runes for money thus there is a slight less supply of laws due to Quest Requirements etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The pure essence update was the best thing Jagex have done, People were making WAY too much profit off runes, back before the update you could get almost 150% profit on top of paying for your resources. Thats just insane. You'd buy your essence for 15-20gp each and then you would craft Natures etc and sell them for 300 each. Thats insane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Put it simply, if people don't want to pay the prices they don't. Jagex cannot control what the player buys or sell for, its up to each individual person.

[weasel]

firstly, you say that jagex whould just forget about doing anything about autoer's, this was actually a very good way to stop auto'ing within the rune essence market, which is good for alot of people. I'm sick of people complaining about this update, they needed to do it, just like if a similar thing happens to minning, they will do something about that, autoer's will always be a part of the game, but to continously beat them back, means that it's actually a hard business to get into for some people who are not that serious and thats always a good thing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok, inflations seems to be a term thrown around by everyone who doesn't know what's what about it. There is nothing wrong with not understanding it, but you are misusing the term. To reduce inflation one would need to take the money out of the game, so by reducing the cost of laws the only money that is reduced by going out of the game is by less people buying from stores, which is a minimal effect on inflation in the runescape economy, trading from one person to another does not reduce inflation

[Defender2516]

As much as Auto'ers cheat and all..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They do help the economy in my opinion. Making things lower prices = hitting 99 skills cheaper for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Course.. I won't be a billionare.. People can come over to my lvl 99 hourse that took me only 500k to build! lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Defender~

[happy123]

I dont know if you guys have noticed but yews dropped down quite a lot due to bots, now some must of perished because yews have risen about 100gp over the last few months. If you think about it bots make our Rs life a lot easier sometimes (except for some wcers, and fisherman that try to compete and sell their Logs/Fish), especially for fletchers, cookers, FM-ers, People who want to raise their prayer, constructers, smithers, and a whole lot more people. Prices would rise amazingly if all bots were perished :ohnoes:

[blacksimon]

You cant do anything to macroers...the owners just make more... just live with it untill jagex introduces better graphics

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Pikemaster25]

^ Lmao, I agree though...nothing can realy be done to completely stop autoers...so we're always going to see them wandering around-get used to it. #-o

[baalboy5]

if something cheats to get more of something I WANT IT OUT! I'm sick of a bot having higher woodcutting because it is ran 24/7!

[malo2]

doesn't the update increase the chance of teleport malfunctions? how is that going to hurt anybody but the autoers?

[Kill_Thomas9]

First, thanks to anyone who gave constructive feedback, be it positive or negetive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, I am NOT complaining. I was mad at first, like many thousands of people, but I have been over that for months now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ok, inflations seems to be a term thrown around by everyone who doesn't know what's what about it. There is nothing wrong with not understanding it, but you are misusing the term. To reduce inflation one would need to take the money out of the game, so by reducing the cost of laws the only money that is reduced by going out of the game is by less people buying from stores, which is a minimal effect on inflation in the runescape economy, trading from one person to another does not reduce inflation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I did not say anything about inflation in my post. So unles I missed someones post saying something about inflation, and were talking to them, you must have misread what I was saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, thanks for the feedback. Keep it comming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, btw any other conspiricy theories are welcome :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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doesn't the update increase the chance of teleport malfunctions? how is that going to hurt anybody but the autoers?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not that I know of. Even if they did have a teleport malfunction update, it was not part of the rune ess update, although it may have come out at the same time.

[wakka102]

ever since the law alter was released prices on them dropped drastically. It was just because of FFL. Prices were 1k back in rsc and before the alter.