February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s They could have also created a joke, no matter how lame it is. (Yes a "haha" joke.) And also, there is no way to prove that you made that joke, or it is copyrighted by someone else. So I am afraid that if Ebay can't find the joke online/copyrighted, then it's perfectly legal :? .hmm, I would have thought it was the other way around. in order to sell something that you don't actually have (a material object), you would have to sell the copyrights for whatever it is (in this case a joke), you can't just sell words :-s Yeah, what you say makes sense. But unfortunately, in this case, you can just sell words. And also, I guess you could give "credit" (i.e. a website) and that would be sufficient enough. Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr Author Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s They could have also created a joke, no matter how lame it is. (Yes a "haha" joke.) And also, there is no way to prove that you made that joke, or it is copyrighted by someone else. So I am afraid that if Ebay can't find the joke online/copyrighted, then it's perfectly legal :? .hmm, I would have thought it was the other way around. in order to sell something that you don't actually have (a material object), you would have to sell the copyrights for whatever it is (in this case a joke), you can't just sell words :-s Yeah, what you say makes sense. But unfortunately, in this case, you can just sell words. And also, I guess you could give "credit" (i.e. a website) and that would be sufficient enough.awesome, going over to Ebay right now to auction off the words "The" and "And" for a bargain price of 5$ :XD: . IT'S A ONE TIME OFFER FOLKS! DON'T LET IT PASS YOU BY!
February 6, 200719 yr can you link to where you got this info? i scanned through the user agreement but i didnt see anything =\
February 6, 200719 yr Author can you link to where you got this info? i scanned through the user agreement but i didnt see anything =\Someone on IRC said something about it, I can't locate it in there actual rules but here are some articles I found on it from googling it: http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/s ... 62,00.html http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-6154372.html http://news.softpedia.com/news/eBay-Ban ... 5809.shtml All virtual sales have been banned with the acception of a game called "Second Life" for reasons that I don't know. I'm sure its in the rules somewhere, There are alot of them and I don't have to the time to weed through it all :( .
February 6, 200719 yr can you link to where you got this info? i scanned through the user agreement but i didnt see anything =\Someone on IRC said something about it, I can't locate it in there actual rules but here are some articles I found on it from googling it: http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/s ... 62,00.html http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-6154372.html http://news.softpedia.com/news/eBay-Ban ... 5809.shtml All virtual sales have been banned with the acception of a game called "Second Life" for reasons that I don't know. I'm sure its in the rules somewhere, There are alot of them and I don't have to the time to weed through it all :( . That's because all in-game currency you have to buy with real money. And EVERYTHING in that game is player-made, it is a very unique game. It's quite complicated to build objects and stuff. It is quite fun though. Anyway, players sell "objects" they make to other players and they charge SecondLife Currency, which is just as good as Real Money :). Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^
February 6, 200719 yr Author Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity?like I said, its a start :)
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr There's always those personal sites for selling cash :( O well Ebay was the biggest farmer place. Quit RuneScape :)
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-s ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^
February 6, 200719 yr At first I thought you were talking about Farming, as in the Farming with watercans as a symbol. I don't imagine people selling ranarr seeds for 20 bucks each on ebay. Ppots for my english test pl0x :lol: I always thought Ebay was small for farming. But I dont have much experience with it, so I wont say anymore. Jagex should talk to PayPal about farming transactions. Theyre business partners already. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top
February 6, 200719 yr Author Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-sWhat I dont understand is why Jagex doesn't shut them down, they aren't hard to find or else they would not make good business, its as simple as a Jagex staff member googling it or clicking one of the ads. I heard Jagex had some lawyers, Just sue there wagons to last tuesday :twisted:
February 6, 200719 yr (Picture with link to goldselling site removed. Laikrob.) Saw this right after i posted, thought it would be relavent that google ads promote ALOT of the sites. And from what i remember, JaGeX can't do anything except ban the accounts that hord the gold, which is difficult. ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^
February 6, 200719 yr There are quite a few other "popular" sites that people use for buying and selling Runescape items and accounts, but I'm glad to see Jagex is making some success in cracking down.
February 6, 200719 yr There are quite a few other "popular" sites that people use for buying and selling Runescape items and accounts, but I'm glad to see Jagex is making some success in cracking down. Actually, its Ebay who is cracking down on people in general who buy/sell accounts, gold, and items over it, whether its rs, or wow, or whatever you play. ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-sWhat I dont understand is why Jagex doesn't shut them down, they aren't hard to find or else they would not make good business, its as simple as a Jagex staff member googling it or clicking one of the ads. I heard Jagex had some lawyers, Just sue there wagons to last tuesday :twisted: I am sorry to say that is not possible. I have visited these sites before, I have investigated myself. Two main reasons. 1. In the Terms of Service for these websites (which you HAVE to agree too) it clearly states NO ONE affiliated with Jagex may enter/create an account on the site, it is infringing on the Internet Privacy Act or something. So Jagex would be doing something Illigal. 2. Some sites ban all IP address's from Britian! Since Jagex is stationed in Britian, they cannot even access the sites and ban the accounts being sold. Those are the two main reasons. Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr Can they get rid of the "jokes" with free Rs accounts though? Yeah all those kinds of "loopholes" were illegal too its still account sharing, and bannable on runescape. although you can sell a joke and say the first person to buy this joke for $50 get 10,000,000 rs gp free
February 6, 200719 yr Can they get rid of the "jokes" with free Rs accounts though? Yeah all those kinds of "loopholes" were illegal too its still account sharing, and bannable on runescape. although you can sell a joke and say the first person to buy this joke for $50 get 10,000,000 rs gp free That's exactly what they do. Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-sWhat I dont understand is why Jagex doesn't shut them down, they aren't hard to find or else they would not make good business, its as simple as a Jagex staff member googling it or clicking one of the ads. I heard Jagex had some lawyers, Just sue there wagons to last tuesday :twisted: I am sorry to say that is not possible. I have visited these sites before, I have investigated myself. Two main reasons. 1. In the Terms of Service for these websites (which you HAVE to agree too) it clearly states NO ONE affiliated with Jagex may enter/create an account on the site, it is infringing on the Internet Privacy Act or something. So Jagex would be doing something Illigal. 2. Some sites ban all IP address's from Britian! Since Jagex is stationed in Britian, they cannot even access the sites and ban the accounts being sold. Those are the two main reasons. Yes but what they are doing with selling the gold is also illegal. They are selling Jagex's property (the gold). Jagex clearly states that all the items in the game our theirs and therefore those sites are profiting fomr things they dont own. Off Topic:wow this quote is getting long :XD:
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-sWhat I dont understand is why Jagex doesn't shut them down, they aren't hard to find or else they would not make good business, its as simple as a Jagex staff member googling it or clicking one of the ads. I heard Jagex had some lawyers, Just sue there wagons to last tuesday :twisted: I am sorry to say that is not possible. I have visited these sites before, I have investigated myself. Two main reasons. 1. In the Terms of Service for these websites (which you HAVE to agree too) it clearly states NO ONE affiliated with Jagex may enter/create an account on the site, it is infringing on the Internet Privacy Act or something. So Jagex would be doing something Illigal. 2. Some sites ban all IP address's from Britian! Since Jagex is stationed in Britian, they cannot even access the sites and ban the accounts being sold. Those are the two main reasons. Yes but what they are doing with selling the gold is also illegal. They are selling Jagex's property (the gold). Jagex clearly states that all the items in the game our theirs and therefore those sites are profiting fomr things they dont own. Off Topic:wow this quote is getting long :XD: Yes it is... however that whole thing with the internet privacey act is completely bull @#$% Its like saying to the us gov... hey this is my property you can't come and seize the weapons i am illigally selling over here... trust me jagex will take those guys to town... :twisted: New sigzor^^
February 6, 200719 yr Jagex can never put an end to it completely, However, they can thin out its numbers by getting it banned on all the main auction and selling sites. As well as assembling a team to track down sites and removing them. Doesn't stop them :/. Here, check out a common scam. (They sell a joke, and it *"magically"* comes with gold, items, account information.) (Link removed. Laikrob.)Joke as in a "haha funny" joke? if so, the person does no own the rights to the joke and therefore cannot sell it. This shouldn't be allowed either. However, if someone payed for rights to the joke...then I guess thats fine...But that might cost more then the account your selling :-s What if they made the joke up themselves? Then it probly sucked XD Anyway, if i was to ever buy gold, why not from the hundreds on the various ads that populate other forums such as runescapecommunity? Because, believe it or not, people don't know about it. Also, they are wayy overpriced. Naw, i rarely hear about people buying it off of ebay, its more along the lines of buying from ad sites (which i do report for XD) And wakka, as it is a start on sites that dabble in everything, its not going to stop the hundreds of sites that deal only with MMORPG gold and even only RS gold. As these sites do not have anything else to deal with, they can't do what ebay did, or they would be out of business :-k And how do you know its expensive :-sWhat I dont understand is why Jagex doesn't shut them down, they aren't hard to find or else they would not make good business, its as simple as a Jagex staff member googling it or clicking one of the ads. I heard Jagex had some lawyers, Just sue there wagons to last tuesday :twisted: I am sorry to say that is not possible. I have visited these sites before, I have investigated myself. Two main reasons. 1. In the Terms of Service for these websites (which you HAVE to agree too) it clearly states NO ONE affiliated with Jagex may enter/create an account on the site, it is infringing on the Internet Privacy Act or something. So Jagex would be doing something Illigal. 2. Some sites ban all IP address's from Britian! Since Jagex is stationed in Britian, they cannot even access the sites and ban the accounts being sold. Those are the two main reasons. Yes but what they are doing with selling the gold is also illegal. They are selling Jagex's property (the gold). Jagex clearly states that all the items in the game our theirs and therefore those sites are profiting fomr things they dont own. Off Topic:wow this quote is getting long :XD: Yes, but that is the "game" rules. The terms of service state that it is violating the Internet Privacy Act, or something along those lines. These are government rules. And I am afraid the government's rules over-power the Jagex in-game rules. Training my pure!
February 6, 200719 yr Honestly, selling the joke and giving a gift is completely illegal; although the technicality (counter-argument being bartering in runescape has to be mutual on both sides to be legal. Giving a gift of 10 million gp seems to have the consent of both parties, when the circumstance is RS GP sales.) seems to have loopholes for legitimacy, one must remember their political science and ethical philosophy and understand intent is the foremost thing that matters in legality and morality. I've got to be honest; the thought of churning out a duel arena persona and making millions to sell for rl money is compelling. Times are tough; I can't believe the amount of economic inequality and despair that reside even in the good old US. Minimum wage doesn't cut it for that college education we're supposed to be stratified to. But anyways, I'm taught and believe real life is much more important than any ethical issues of a video game. Then again, my data file is theirs and is not mine. And so, illicit action (rl sales), which is defined/determined by Jagex, intertwines with real life economics. It is definitely a black market with the same economic attributes that drugs have. It is money not accounted for. The difference between the two black markets is rl trading is not acculturated to be wrong in any contemporary culture's eyes... There are so many seemingly pious arguments for all sides of the issue. There are just too many contradictions we are currently being subject to, and the answers, let alone many questions, have not even been discussed within any scholarly context and is not in the books. I find this all so fascinating and find the sociological perspective of it all even deeper than I ever thought it could be. And well, this is where I come up with the premise that those damn electrons create tangible worlds as real as our own; this has to be true if we cannot find a common accepted value between the two, the more time goes on, the more we innovate these amazing electronic social networks and realities, the more prevalent that idea becomes locked in my head. In other words, perceptions keep on a changing, even if ya currently think ya got the right one 8-) Sorry for the rambling, longest post in years ftw
February 6, 200719 yr The NZ trading site, TradeMe, also banned sales of RS items awhile ago. It was being overlooked by Jagex for awhile.
February 6, 200719 yr Must.... kill... next person... to.... continue... the quote........ chain. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
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