Mainly because it is crap. How many other games are you expected to click click click and swivel the camera around and believe it's "fun"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you saying you didn't have fun while playing the game?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously not. He had enough fun to sign up on a fansite's forums.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop getting the past and present tense mixed up. You guys are using arguments in the past tense to counter what runesmithie feels now = you lose. People's views change. Maybe runesmithie ONCE found it funny and exhilarating to click-click-swivel-click-swivel-click, however, that feeling has long passed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What are you expecting? Do you think the keyboard should be used too, or do you think they should make a special game controller for the computer just to play it with?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its a freaking internet game, you play it on the computer, of course the controls arn't going to be as great as something you play on a regular consol, if you want your game to have good controlls, then I would suggest you sell your computer and get one of the new consols.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two words for ya; Play WoW (that could be considered to be 4 words, but WoW is an accepted acronym, and you know what I'm on about anyhow). That, too, is a freaking internet game, played on the comp. And it has freaking great controls. So why should we all sell our comps and get consoles?

Bah. Console/Computer fanboys confuse me. All you're doing it missing out on the good games on one or the other. Don't be a tool. :P

Sorry Korla, I meant the post to be in the past tense.

 

 

 

What are you expecting? Do you think the keyboard should be used too, or do you think they should make a special game controller for the computer just to play it with?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its a freaking internet game, you play it on the computer, of course the controls arn't going to be as great as something you play on a regular consol, if you want your game to have good controlls, then I would suggest you sell your computer and get one of the new consols.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two words for ya; Play WoW (that could be considered to be 4 words, but WoW is an accepted acronym, and you know what I'm on about anyhow). That, too, is a freaking internet game, played on the comp. And it has freaking great controls. So why should we all sell our comps and get consoles?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fine then, go play WoW, whatever you do, get off of here and stop your whining, RS may not be as good as other games, but if any of you have actually TRIED to make a game, you would know its much more complex than it looks and that it would take years of work to make a game half as good as even RS1.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My statement still stands that RS is a perfectly decent game, stop insulting it constantly just because it doesn't fit your high standards of what a game should be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure if a mmo ever comes out thats better than WoW you'll all start complaining about WoW too, just because it isn't the best.

I'd really like to see the people who constantly undermine Runescape make a game that even comes close to it, why the hell are you guys on here if you hate the game so much?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give me around 6-7 years and I will be making something better than it. (after i'm out of college / have a job in the game industry).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, crimson, I know from the past you really have no knowledge whatsoever about MMOs outside of runescape. So please don't try and argue about them. Runescape is the laughing stock of the MMO world.

Stop getting the past and present tense mixed up. You guys are using arguments in the past tense to counter what runesmithie feels now = you lose. People's views change. Maybe runesmithie ONCE found it funny and exhilarating to click-click-swivel-click-swivel-click, however, that feeling has long passed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How the hell does it matter? If it was fun for him BEFORE, it means it CAN be fun. I used to play CS a lot, and now I can just say it's a moronic lame point and shoot, fully of security hole game with horrible graphics and unintuitive gameplay. Does that mean that what I said is true?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not to mention that you play a text-based game based on RS.. wow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, find me a free MMORPG that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

has as much servers as RS

 

 

 

isn't constrained to just one server

 

 

 

has a team behind it that constantly updates it for bugs and such

 

 

 

can be played on a browser on any OS

 

 

 

requires low computer specs

You can already make your own version.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:shame:

 

I'd really like to see the people who constantly undermine Runescape make a game that even comes close to it, why the hell are you guys on here if you hate the game so much?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give me around 6-7 years and I will be making something better than it. (after i'm out of college / have a job in the game industry).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, crimson, I know from the past you really have no knowledge whatsoever about MMOs outside of runescape. So please don't try and argue about them. Runescape is the laughing stock of the MMO world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then you'd better get started, I would like to see you prove me wrong, I would like to see you even get a job in the gaming industry, are you even in college yet? Don't go promising things you don't know you can do, getting a job in a high class gaming business would take you being better than everyone else, and with you spending all your time here whining, it doesn't look like your off to a good start.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've played Survival Project, Guild Wars, Maple Story, Pristontale, Ragnorok, something called Dogs of the Seas(You want to talk about the laughing stock of Mmos check this game out, its horrible), probably a few more(A few years back I went searching for Mmos, so I've played quite a few)I'm soon to be trying LOTR Online when the beta opens up at the end of the month, so I know nothing about Mmos outside of RS?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me guess, your one of those people who have only played games that everyone says are good and never even thought to look at anything else, am I right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And your idea of the rest of the Mmo world seems to only include WoW and maybe one or 2 more games, WoW maybe at the top of the Mmo list, and it may be a great game, but it certanly isn't the only other Mmo.

Maybe Nadril and I should team up and make our own games :-k

Then you'd better get started, I would like to see you prove me wrong, I would like to see you even get a job in the gaming industry, are you even in college yet? Don't go promising things you don't know you can do, getting a job in a high class gaming business would take you being better than everyone else, and with you spending all your time here whining, it doesn't look like your off to a good start.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've played Survival Project, Guild Wars, Maple Story, Pristontale, Ragnorok, something called Dogs of the Seas(You want to talk about the laughing stock of Mmos check this game out, its horrible), probably a few more(A few years back I went searching for Mmos, so I've played quite a few)I'm soon to be trying LOTR Online when the beta opens up at the end of the month, so I know nothing about Mmos outside of RS?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me guess, your one of those people who have only played games that everyone says are good and never even thought to look at anything else, am I right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And your idea of the rest of the Mmo world seems to only include WoW and maybe one or 2 more games, WoW maybe at the top of the Mmo list, and it may be a great game, but it certanly isn't the only other Mmo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've played (or at least have tried):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ultima Online, Everquest II, WoW, EvE Online, Ryzom, Lineage II, Guild Wars (not really an mmo but whatever), Silkroad Online, City of villans, Anarchy Online, runescape and probaly some other random Korean MMOs I have tried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason I play WoW (which I'm starting to get bored with) is there really is nothing else better out right now. Waiting for Age of Conan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also I went to college for a semester last year but due to a few things I took a semester off. I am going to be going to college this fall however and going towards a graphic design degree in which I will be using in the game design world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another thing I feel I should add: do you have any idea what I spend my time doing? Most of the time I am on these forums I am doing something else, be it at work or whatever. And you don't need to be "better than everyone else" to get a job in the game industry, you just need to be good and present yourself well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My point is if you had had the time to play some decent MMO's you would see what a laughing stock runescape is. And, from the look of your list, you really haven't even played a good MMO yet with the exception of maybe Ragnorok (did you play retail or a private server?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe Nadril and I should team up and make our own games

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We should ;D.

 

Then you'd better get started, I would like to see you prove me wrong, I would like to see you even get a job in the gaming industry, are you even in college yet? Don't go promising things you don't know you can do, getting a job in a high class gaming business would take you being better than everyone else, and with you spending all your time here whining, it doesn't look like your off to a good start.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've played Survival Project, Guild Wars, Maple Story, Pristontale, Ragnorok, something called Dogs of the Seas(You want to talk about the laughing stock of Mmos check this game out, its horrible), probably a few more(A few years back I went searching for Mmos, so I've played quite a few)I'm soon to be trying LOTR Online when the beta opens up at the end of the month, so I know nothing about Mmos outside of RS?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me guess, your one of those people who have only played games that everyone says are good and never even thought to look at anything else, am I right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And your idea of the rest of the Mmo world seems to only include WoW and maybe one or 2 more games, WoW maybe at the top of the Mmo list, and it may be a great game, but it certanly isn't the only other Mmo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've played (or at least have tried):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ultima Online, Everquest II, WoW, EvE Online, Ryzom, Lineage II, Guild Wars (not really an mmo but whatever), Silkroad Online, City of villans, Anarchy Online, runescape and probaly some other random Korean MMOs I have tried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason I play WoW (which I'm starting to get bored with) is there really is nothing else better out right now. Waiting for Age of Conan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also I went to college for a semester last year but due to a few things I took a semester off. I am going to be going to college this fall however and going towards a graphic design degree in which I will be using in the game design world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another thing I feel I should add: do you have any idea what I spend my time doing? Most of the time I am on these forums I am doing something else, be it at work or whatever. And you don't need to be "better than everyone else" to get a job in the game industry, you just need to be good and present yourself well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My point is if you had had the time to play some decent MMO's you would see what a laughing stock runescape is. And, from the look of your list, you really haven't even played a good MMO yet with the exception of maybe Ragnorok (did you play retail or a private server?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe Nadril and I should team up and make our own games

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We should ;D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly as I thought, Ultima, Everquest, WoW, pretty much every one of those game are massively praised by the gaming community, of course they are good games, but what puts them apart from Runescape other than graphics? Quickspell tabs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But my point is, you've only really played the games with good ratings, never even thinking to try anything different, so who are you to talk about the MMO world?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You spend you time at work on here? That basically proves you have nothing better to do than spend it whining on these forums.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you even thought to try building up a portfolio of animations and games to better your chances? Or to even try animation and game design out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, you do have to be better than everyone else that applies at a high class video game company, they arn't looking for presentation and how much of a boy scout you can be, they are looking for actual talent, if it was between you and 1 other guy, the other guy coming in in a t shirt and shorts, yet has a very good portfolio, and all you really do is come in with a business suit and say "Give me a chance, I'm sure I can be very good at it." who do you think they will hire?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are thousands of people going through gaming colleges hoping to get a job in a big time company, yet in comparison, there are very few companys, and all companies big or small have limited budgets, thus not many of these people are going to get jobs, they pick out the best out of them all and hire them, the majority of them will never have a chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They want actual talent, do you have actual talent? Do you have the drive to even achieve this talent, or do you just want to get a job in the gaming industry because it looks fun? There is a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whats the definition of a good MMO to you? Something on a top ten list or something thats actually good? I find Guild Wars, Pristontale, and Survival Project to be very good games, the others arn't great, but they arn't bad(Except for Dogs of the seas and a few of the others I haven't named off)(Yes, I play Ragnorok on a private server, Rebirth server to be precise).

I love how he assumes he knows what Nadril is thinking. Also, for someone who spends a lot of time talking about whining and wasting your time etc, it looks as though your doing a lot of it right now. :-w

Whats the definition of a good MMO to you? Something on a top ten list or something thats actually good? I find Guild Wars, Pristontale, and Survival Project to be very good games, the others arn't great, but they arn't bad(Except for Dogs of the seas and a few of the others I haven't named off)(Yes, I play Ragnorok on a private server, Rebirth server to be precise).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was going to mention PristonTale during all this and since you're brought it up anyways - might as well follow on. Personally I find it almost balanced; except for the obvious lack of PVP (unless that was added since I stopped played) and VERY SLOW leveling once you get around the 8x mark or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The party system is relatively good; except for the fact you can leech party exp even when on the other side of the map (unless that too has ben changed). Skills are practical to your class and the item variaty is extensive yet select - the big plus to it are the stats which can vary greatly between drops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It still has a bit to go before it's a great MMORPG; but meh. It's on the way, needs more quests as the only real quest is for ... one of the civs and hunting wolfs and such for level ups or whatever of class rank. I can't remember exactly.

Exactly as I thought, Ultima, Everquest, WoW, pretty much every one of those game are massively praised by the gaming community, of course they are good games, but what puts them apart from Runescape other than graphics? Quickspell tabs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See, this is what I'm talking about how you don't know. The combat in *any* MMO I have played is infinantly more complex than runescape is. Runescapes combat consits of click on a mob and watch yourself auto attack. Every once and a while you can maybe use a special weapon ability. Runescapes combat is also easily trained while you don't even look at the game, I mean, come on!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Out of that list Anarchy Online/Lineage II/Ryzom/Silkroad and EvE were never *criticly aclaimed* games that were praised by the masses. Ultima Online is praised by the PvP community but back when it came out it was overshadowed by Everquest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, I have played some 'popular' MMO's, but they got that way for a reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These games bring so much more to the 'table' so to speak than runescape does. Anything from a much better and enhanced combat system such as tons of skills to use. In WoW usualy all my characters have 3-4 12 slot hotbars filled with varrious skills. The gameworlds are also *larger* than runescapes and the PvP in some of the games is more meaningful (or actualy fun because you die more than once a full moon).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You spend you time at work on here? That basically proves you have nothing better to do than spend it whining on these forums.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, you have no idea what I do but I can easily multi task.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you even thought to try building up a portfolio of animations and games to better your chances? Or to even try animation and game design out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think me working on art all the time is for? Also you don't need to be an animator, I'm probaly going to go into the 3D design portion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, you do have to be better than everyone else that applies at a high class video game company, they arn't looking for presentation and how much of a boy scout you can be, they are looking for actual talent, if it was between you and 1 other guy, the other guy coming in in a t shirt and shorts, yet has a very good portfolio, and all you really do is come in with a business suit and say "Give me a chance, I'm sure I can be very good at it." who do you think they will hire?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*sigh* yes, you obviously need to have tallent. However you don't need to sit in the top 1% of artists or whatever to land a job in the industry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are thousands of people going through gaming colleges hoping to get a job in a big time company, yet in comparison, there are very few companys, and all companies big or small have limited budgets, thus not many of these people are going to get jobs, they pick out the best out of them all and hire them, the majority of them will never have a chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You would be amazed how many companys there are out there. Even big time companys such as blizzard have sections on their website which say they are hiring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They want actual talent, do you have actual talent? Do you have the drive to even achieve this talent, or do you just want to get a job in the gaming industry because it looks fun? There is a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't help but take offense to this. I've been working with digital art for probaly over 4 years now (closer to 5 I think) and it has always been my goal to do game design. It isn't because t looks "fun" but its because I have always had a love for games and creating them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whats the definition of a good MMO to you? Something on a top ten list or something thats actually good? I find Guild Wars, Pristontale, and Survival Project to be very good games, the others arn't great, but they arn't bad(Except for Dogs of the seas and a few of the others I haven't named off)(Yes, I play Ragnorok on a private server, Rebirth server to be precise).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good MMO, tough thing to really single out a list of reasons. The bottom line is if it is fun I will play it. However, things I find fun include:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Open PvP system. if it doesn't have PvP than it isn't worth anything in my book (also full loot PvP is nice)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Large game world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Plenty of skills and ways to advance your character, not a cookie-cutter character design.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Interesting encounters that force you to think in combat. These can be in the form of dungeons or simple daily encounters with mobs. Something where you can sit afk and gain xp is a no go in my book.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, next time, don't put words into my mouth crimson. I never said I look for something on the top 10 list, I never have. it took me nearly 2 years to try WoW because I was playing better things and, still, I play it only because there isn't much out there right now that is good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love how he assumes he knows what Nadril is thinking. Also, for someone who spends a lot of time talking about whining and wasting your time etc, it looks as though your doing a lot of it right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed, agreed.

 

Exactly as I thought, Ultima, Everquest, WoW, pretty much every one of those game are massively praised by the gaming community, of course they are good games, but what puts them apart from Runescape other than graphics? Quickspell tabs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See, this is what I'm talking about how you don't know. The combat in *any* MMO I have played is infinantly more complex than runescape is. Runescapes combat consits of click on a mob and watch yourself auto attack. Every once and a while you can maybe use a special weapon ability. Runescapes combat is also easily trained while you don't even look at the game, I mean, come on!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Out of that list Anarchy Online/Lineage II/Ryzom/Silkroad and EvE were never *criticly aclaimed* games that were praised by the masses. Ultima Online is praised by the PvP community but back when it came out it was overshadowed by Everquest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, I have played some 'popular' MMO's, but they got that way for a reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These games bring so much more to the 'table' so to speak than runescape does. Anything from a much better and enhanced combat system such as tons of skills to use. In WoW usualy all my characters have 3-4 12 slot hotbars filled with varrious skills. The gameworlds are also *larger* than runescapes and the PvP in some of the games is more meaningful (or actualy fun because you die more than once a full moon).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You spend you time at work on here? That basically proves you have nothing better to do than spend it whining on these forums.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, you have no idea what I do but I can easily multi task.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you even thought to try building up a portfolio of animations and games to better your chances? Or to even try animation and game design out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think me working on art all the time is for? Also you don't need to be an animator, I'm probaly going to go into the 3D design portion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, you do have to be better than everyone else that applies at a high class video game company, they arn't looking for presentation and how much of a boy scout you can be, they are looking for actual talent, if it was between you and 1 other guy, the other guy coming in in a t shirt and shorts, yet has a very good portfolio, and all you really do is come in with a business suit and say "Give me a chance, I'm sure I can be very good at it." who do you think they will hire?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*sigh* yes, you obviously need to have tallent. However you don't need to sit in the top 1% of artists or whatever to land a job in the industry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are thousands of people going through gaming colleges hoping to get a job in a big time company, yet in comparison, there are very few companys, and all companies big or small have limited budgets, thus not many of these people are going to get jobs, they pick out the best out of them all and hire them, the majority of them will never have a chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You would be amazed how many companys there are out there. Even big time companys such as blizzard have sections on their website which say they are hiring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They want actual talent, do you have actual talent? Do you have the drive to even achieve this talent, or do you just want to get a job in the gaming industry because it looks fun? There is a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't help but take offense to this. I've been working with digital art for probaly over 4 years now (closer to 5 I think) and it has always been my goal to do game design. It isn't because t looks "fun" but its because I have always had a love for games and creating them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whats the definition of a good MMO to you? Something on a top ten list or something thats actually good? I find Guild Wars, Pristontale, and Survival Project to be very good games, the others arn't great, but they arn't bad(Except for Dogs of the seas and a few of the others I haven't named off)(Yes, I play Ragnorok on a private server, Rebirth server to be precise).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good MMO, tough thing to really single out a list of reasons. The bottom line is if it is fun I will play it. However, things I find fun include:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Open PvP system. if it doesn't have PvP than it isn't worth anything in my book (also full loot PvP is nice)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Large game world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Plenty of skills and ways to advance your character, not a cookie-cutter character design.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Interesting encounters that force you to think in combat. These can be in the form of dungeons or simple daily encounters with mobs. Something where you can sit afk and gain xp is a no go in my book.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, next time, don't put words into my mouth crimson. I never said I look for something on the top 10 list, I never have. it took me nearly 2 years to try WoW because I was playing better things and, still, I play it only because there isn't much out there right now that is good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love how he assumes he knows what Nadril is thinking. Also, for someone who spends a lot of time talking about whining and wasting your time etc, it looks as though your doing a lot of it right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed, agreed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Thus 1 reason why I never want to play those MMOs, I can't stand games that are all about combat and nothing else, they are way too repetitive for my taste. I am not doubting there are games better than RS, in fact there are many I prefer to RS, but RS is still a decent game, nothing to deserve the constant insults that have been flung at it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. They may not have been critically praised as you've said, but there is, or at least was, much talk about each of those games, of course I have been to many different mmo forums and I'm sure many views are very biased, but still.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Fine, I'm wrong, sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Animation is a huge part of game design, else you probably won't be able to get your characters moving. Can I see some of your work?(This is out of personal interest, not for the arguement)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. I know there are a lot of companies out there, yet only a hand full are considered great, what do you want to bet that by the time you get out of college all those jobs will be taken? I mean think about the countless number of people who are hoping to get a job in the gaming industry, they are even putting classes in high school for it because of the high interest, I personally hope to have a gaming career myself, though I try to keep in mind the reality of things thus I don't make promises I don't know I can keep.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6. It was an honest question, not something to get offended about, you see the majority of people who say they will make games greater than RS haven't the slightest clue about how to make a game, to tell you the truth, your the first one I've seen who has ever had any experience, and I commend you for it, perhaps you will someday make a greater game than RS, either way, I look forward to seeing your work in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can probably guess, I'm sick of people thinking that game design is a slack off job and you can make a great game in a weeks time, a month at most, its horribly undermining the gaming industry and unfortunatly it seems to be a very popular thought in this day in age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. Yeah, I can agree with you on your idea of a good MMO, but I'm not quite as picky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Judging from your list it seemed as though you only listened to the rest of the game community, rather than really searched for yourself, again, I was wrong, I'm sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8. I admit, I was a bit too quick to jump the gun on things, I tend to do that a lot, and I apologize.

1. Thus 1 reason why I never want to play those MMOs, I can't stand games that are all about combat and nothing else, they are way too repetitive for my taste. I am not doubting there are games better than RS, in fact there are many I prefer to RS, but RS is still a decent game, nothing to deserve the constant insults that have been flung at it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EvE Online, Ryzom and Everquest II have great crafting. All the other games I mentioned have it as well, and even WoW (which crafting isn't a big thing) is more complex then runescapes non-combat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason I didn't list stuff about tradeskills is I myself am not a big tradeskiller.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. They may not have been critically praised as you've said, but there is, or at least was, much talk about each of those games, of course I have been to many different mmo forums and I'm sure many views are very biased, but still.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Generaly good games get talked about. I've tried so many MMO's and it is hard to list everything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Animation is a huge part of game design, else you probably won't be able to get your characters moving. Can I see some of your work?(This is out of personal interest, not for the arguement)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Different people do different parts of the graphical portion. I myself could see me creating the general areas you roam around in, the ones where not much animation is going on. Also, it isn't uncommon for someone to model something only to move it to someone else to animate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And , also, I still have 4 years to learn if needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://nadril.deviantart.com although I really have no updated it much. Also, the older stuff is well... crap. However I have 4 more years to improve and I only recently have really started working on more 3d work. The classes I take will teach more about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. I know there are a lot of companies out there, yet only a hand full are considered great, what do you want to bet that by the time you get out of college all those jobs will be taken? I mean think about the countless number of people who are hoping to get a job in the gaming industry, they are even putting classes in high school for it because of the high interest, I personally hope to have a gaming career myself, though I try to keep in mind the reality of things thus I don't make promises I don't know I can keep.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure some jobs will be taken but jobs will also be lost during that time and new companies will open up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The gaming industry is booming, you are correct. With that a lot of people (more than ever) are getting into the industry and new companies are springing around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6. It was an honest question, not something to get offended about, you see the majority of people who say they will make games greater than RS haven't the slightest clue about how to make a game, to tell you the truth, your the first one I've seen who has ever had any experience, and I commend you for it, perhaps you will someday make a greater game than RS, either way, I look forward to seeing your work in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. The only reason I got offended is you really made a baseless asumption on why I wanted to do this. I've taken programing as well (C++) and I hope on expanding my skill in that as well. Even if I don't have a *programming* degree I still can learn more of it on the side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. Yeah, I can agree with you on your idea of a good MMO, but I'm not quite as picky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Judging from your list it seemed as though you only listened to the rest of the game community, rather than really searched for yourself, again, I was wrong, I'm sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah you should see me when I try and find something. I started playing anarchy online *after* all the hype had died down (the game was 5 years old when I started playing).

 

 

Its kinda hard to recreate a Game as epic as Runescape...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL.

 

 

 

Yeah, I found that hilarious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mate, Runescape makes Mario Kart look epic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont know, DOuble Dash had its moments :P :lol:

@crimsonking:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope you have no notion in your head that I was criticizing runescape because I think I could do better. I have no intention of going into the games industry unless it's just a coincidental thing. I have looked into it at one point, but I decided that level of coding just wasn't for me and I'd rather pursue Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However. To take this into terms everyone can understand, you don't have to want to or be able to be a President of the United States to see flaws with George W ;)

@crimsonking:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope you have no notion in your head that I was criticizing runescape because I think I could do better. I have no intention of going into the games industry unless it's just a coincidental thing. I have looked into it at one point, but I decided that level of coding just wasn't for me and I'd rather pursue Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However. To take this into terms everyone can understand, you don't have to want to or be able to be a President of the United States to see flaws with George W ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape is a decent game, how many times do I have to say it to get it through people's thick heads?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, sure, it doesn't have the greatest controls or graphics, but, even with all the bs being thrown at it by people like the ones on this thread, it is still a well loved game with plenty to do in it, I'm sick of all these shallow gamers calling it worthless, when it obviously isn't.

@crimsonking: I hope you have no notion in your head that I was criticizing runescape because I think I could do better.

that kind of made me laugh: sure anyone can make a game that will be played by 6 million people and bring in tens of millions, yeah its so easy :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Id like to see you try.

 

@crimsonking: I hope you have no notion in your head that I was criticizing runescape because I think I could do better.

that kind of made me laugh: sure anyone can make a game that will be played by 6 million people and bring in tens of millions, yeah its so easy :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Id like to see you try.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Over exagerate much?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@crimson: Runescape *is* a shallow game. That is why I dislike it, not because of its "graphics" or even how you control it. Its a simple game.

 

@crimsonking: I hope you have no notion in your head that I was criticizing runescape because I think I could do better.

that kind of made me laugh: sure anyone can make a game that will be played by 6 million people and bring in tens of millions, yeah its so easy :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Id like to see you try.

 

 

 

Eh? I just said I have no intention of ever doing anything like that...

@crimson: Runescape *is* a shallow game. That is why I dislike it, not because of its "graphics" or even how you control it. Its a simple game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now add the pop. of F2P people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape is a FINE game. People don't want to invest $15 a month in a game they probably won't play everyday. Not everyone has time or as 'hardcore' as the other people. They're not in to be the best of the best. They're not the ones with 'gaming rigs.' They're not the ones with 10 MBps connection. RS is a GOOD alternative for them. If it still reaches the 100k users at a time, Jagex is doing a hell of a job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People ridicule it as a point,click,point game, but so what? I know people who get addicted to worse flash games - with barely any depth. What you might enjoy doesn't reflect to other people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like I said earlier, for a FREE game, it's great because you can play it on any OS, on any browser, with a crappy computer and a crappy connection. That is the target market for JAGeX - and they're obviously succesful.

And my point was there are better games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, it is fine for what it is -- a java game. The only point I was trying to make is that there are better games out there, a lot better games that are better because they have more depth, not just "prettier graphics".

And my point was there are better games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, it is fine for what it is -- a java game. The only point I was trying to make is that there are better games out there, a lot better games that are better because they have more depth, not just "prettier graphics".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never denied that, in fact I even stated it isn't the best out there, but its still a decent game.