sprinter98900 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I posted this on Jordanweb's guide but it's such a long guide this wouldnt get many views http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=708158 I have a very interesting setup that will be much much more cost efficient and will allow a trip of 120-350 [my min and max in any trip using this setup] Here is what it is composed of Of course these can be replaced to mix and match but i use this because it gives me a satisfactory range defence [200+] and range attack [75+] bonuses. Ups and downs of this techqnique: Ups -more cost efficient! 20 and some odd prayer pots are quite costly, this way, including barrow repair costs will cost about 25-35k a trip -make use of those swordfish drop! in one trip recently done by me i receive a total of 9 yes NINE swordfish drops [45 total] prolonging my trip from my 150 to nearly 375 kills! -more profit! well if it costs less, you rake in more profit Downs -barrow repairs :( -shorter trips most time. sure this may be so but it does not take very long to walk from the bank to the aviansie and you will still get an adequate amount of kills -i couldn't find anymore *NOTE* the range potion and super defence can help [especially super defence] so i suggest you bring it!, but only repot when you've nearly 100% ran out because your trip should last as long as the potions *NOTE* dragon boots give no range defence so any boot with range bonus is better [i just like keeping it on me] And my stats so theres no confusion [only the needed ones] **TIP!! ** want to kill nearly 2x as fast getting 2x as much profit in the same time? Who doesnt? well you must learn to use the evergoing battle in that dungeon! the gorak shown in the picture is attacked by the level 83 and 71 aviansie [yes only those] and he can damage up to 14! that means he will speed up your killing speed Gorak before you attack Gorak after you attack The black square in the minimap is the level 71 aviansie that constantly attacks the gorak, remember if you get the last hit when its 2 npcs you still get the drop! Make use of that and attack those aviansie that are being killed by pyrefiend, vampires, icefiend, bloodveld, and gorak. This will make your trip much more profitable in the end Comments appreciated, happy aviansie slaying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragons_Might Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 FINALLY! Someone who realizes prayer pots are a waste, and In my opinion, EXTREMELY inefficient. I like your method, however, not as much as the method I came up with. I saw it this way, Aviansies always drop bones. You can 1 hit goblins, for bones. What are bones good for? BONES TO PEACHES! I dont have food banked, so the burnt lobs should be norm food. The lava staff for alcs + earth from it for bones to peaches. There are 2 imp boxes in there for long runs, but can be changed. After food runs out, you can LIVE down there on the bones. If you wanted to you could get 100k kills without banking once... EDIT: btw, aviansies drop decent numbers of nats + waters, so they can also be considered unlimited. Besides that, I like your guide :thumbsup: the trick is to balance all of these methods to get 99 and either play real life or train another skill while farming. 635th to 99 Farming 12/16/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter98900 Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 thank you for the comment and yes what you say is true, bones to peaches will allow for a near infinitely long trip, it will also work with guthans for quick healing if you prefer it that way [heal on goblins, pyrefiends, any monster being attacked (except aviansie)] People that use prayer potions for things that are otherwise... unneeded, simply add to the evergrowing price of prayer potions, aviansie slaying isn't very great for exp, it's mainly done for money, so why not do the method that requires least money? Happy Slaying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Cool... I still prefer my method though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leebrave Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Good guide for those non prayer type people My choice evry time, this doesnt cost money God Mitre-------------------------------------------+5 prayer Monk's rob top-------------------------------------+6 prayer God Stole-------------------------------------------+10 prayer Monk's robe legs or Templar knights Cuisse----+5 Barrows Gloves no bonus God Book-------------------------------------------+5 prayer God Crozier (if using magic)----------------------+6 prayer God Cloak------------------------------------------+3 prayer White Knight boots---------------------------------+1 prayer Total Prayer Bonus 41 6 prayer or super restore pots and i can easily get 140+ addy bars average 2 ranar weeds over 50k in alching. Prrayer is not inefficient if you know how to use it. Gorak Chronicles Ended, thinking of something new for next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin1357 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 with 20 p pots you can make over 1mil a trip and enough to pay for those 20 p pots and enough for more trips. i dont see how thats bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmm_yes Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ive got 2 ranged lvls (74-76), over 850 addy bars and well over 400k in alchs in the last 2 days using the prayer potions method. Used about 50 p pots, so in total mad eliek 2.5m from 2 trips. there have been no extra expenses,except for like 4k worth of fire runes, and bone bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter98900 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 you guys are saying on how prayer pots aren't costly? well my tip simply doesn't require prayer pots, that means you will have them for something like barrows/quests/high level monsters etc. i simply give you a tip in which you can make use of defence rather than prayer, you don't need to comment how prayer potions are cheap, i acknowledge that there are pros and cons, and i'm writing a guide that requires even less money for higher profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I tried this method when I saw you post it in the first Avansie guide (Forgot the guide's/Author's name :P ) and decided to try it out, seeing as the day before I was seeking a non prayer method to killing them, and wasn't sure if a similar setup to what you have would work. I ended up with 120 kills, BUT I occasionally attacked the lvl 131 Avansie, who really does hit many times harder. I would bet that if you stuck with level 69-87 (can't remember exact levels) you could stay there for a good 200+, simply with monks. However I also found something else, though my proof on this is far from solid. In my time there by the first 50 Avansies I had killed I noticed that my rate of addy bars to Avansies kill was FAR below 1:1 like I had seen on so many prayer method pictures. Infact, I hardly had 20 by the time I killed 50. So I decided to make a small test and start occasionally killing the lvl 131 who I would probably only kill frequently using the prayer method and I ended up getting many more addy bars, infact by 100 kills I had 60 ish addy bars, my numbers here are off by a small ammount so I won't bother calculating ratios and such, but it's something to keep in mind that the higher level Avansies probably drop more addy bars then the lower ones. However, This is still a great method for people that are broke, have no prayer boost equipment, low prayer etc. Lastly, bones to peaches is a great use here when fighting the lower levels HOWEVER it will NOT do for the level 131's, which might be good to add to your guide, along with subbing the duel ring for a life :wink: . A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Maybe bring the excalibur to boost your def.. and bones to peaches MAN IM SO DOING THIS METHOD in 5 DAYS MORE!!! Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter98900 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 I tried this method when I saw you post it in the first Avansie guide (Forgot the guide's/Author's name :P ) and decided to try it out, seeing as the day before I was seeking a non prayer method to killing them, and wasn't sure if a similar setup to what you have would work. I ended up with 120 kills, BUT I occasionally attacked the lvl 131 Avansie, who really does hit many times harder. I would bet that if you stuck with level 69-87 (can't remember exact levels) you could stay there for a good 200+, simply with monks. However I also found something else, though my proof on this is far from solid. In my time there by the first 50 Avansies I had killed I noticed that my rate of addy bars to Avansies kill was FAR below 1:1 like I had seen on so many prayer method pictures. Infact, I hardly had 20 by the time I killed 50. So I decided to make a small test and start occasionally killing the lvl 131 who I would probably only kill frequently using the prayer method and I ended up getting many more addy bars, infact by 100 kills I had 60 ish addy bars, my numbers here are off by a small ammount so I won't bother calculating ratios and such, but it's something to keep in mind that the higher level Avansies probably drop more addy bars then the lower ones. However, This is still a great method for people that are broke, have no prayer boost equipment, low prayer etc. Lastly, bones to peaches is a great use here when fighting the lower levels HOWEVER it will NOT do for the level 131's, which might be good to add to your guide, along with subbing the duel ring for a life :wink: . Thank you for trying it before commenting on it, and yes i forgot to mention one thing I only kill the 69-89 Aviansie and particularly the 71 and 83 who are attacked by the Gorak. This allowed me to get more kills with less damage being done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarch2 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I tried this guide and it really isn't that good... Jordanwebs guide is 20x better... Not to put you down but... yeah... I got about 100ish kills and around 180 bars. With Jordans guide i average 400+ kills and 450-550 bars. :? I even altered the guide and used torags. (Gave me 300+ range bonus with obby shield). Mmm... Mudkipz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemikalkadet Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 not a bad guide, but bones to peaches is really great there. i've been tanking them for a while and can stay there infinitly. this was my trip this morning.. only left cos i ran out of bolts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter98900 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 I tried this guide and it really isn't that good... Jordanwebs guide is 20x better... Not to put you down but... yeah... I got about 100ish kills and around 180 bars. With Jordans guide i average 400+ kills and 450-550 bars. :? I even altered the guide and used torags. (Gave me 300+ range bonus with obby shield). well i do say you get 100ish-300ish kill per trip depending on swordfish drops i also stated that you get a lot more with prayer potions but its more costly, this cost less [im talking about amount of cost PER kill] this makes trips faster, i like it because it gives me more chance to do clues i get, take breaks so i can do other stuff, and its profitable as well. Which method you prefer is only dependent on choice, if you prefer camping out for a very long time rather than taking some breaks, prayer potions/guthans/bones to peaches is a choice for you. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddavy2004 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 good guide, i'll use this when i get a little bit stronger becasue atm, i am a little to weak to go without prayer potions. Not to mention i don't own any barrows :XD: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 For those that don't mind spending an extra buck on some pricier ammo, I found an extremely effective setup similar to this one that'll I'll just quickly mention here. The following is what you wear: Guthan helm Armydyl pendant Guthan plate Guthan skirt Any boots, frog leather (from the dorgushan city, not mine) is alright for people with low ammounts of money to risk from dieing. ROL Zammy bracers (Glove spot) Sara cape MSB Best arrows you're willing to use out here, steel works great, haven't tried anything else. In invent, Guthan spear along with teles, alchs for rune daggers and possibly some backup food (don't clog up your invent with food though, else you'll be dropping them for rannars :wink: ). It's extremely effective, despite that you have no body or leg range armour. You'll end up with aprox +60 range attack and +276 range defence, both of which work great. When you're on low hp, heal with guthans, works best on vampires. Also, if you see a zammy mosnter attacking a sara one, attack either and they will ignore you, making healing easy, despite lack of metal boots, barrow gloves etc. For this method using the MSB to work anywhere near it's full potential you MUST have zammy bracers, or you're going to get killed by the zammy troops. The arrows being subbed for bone bolts are well worth it, they do more damage per hour on low defence then bone bolts (which aviansies have), and when you're training on mosnters that average you 3.2k or so GP per kill, I think the added cost of a steel arrow should be near impossible to even notice in your budget when you're finished selling of all your addy bars. My setup is based of this one, so decided to post here :) (To anyone who's wondering, it is very much possible to stay there forever using Guthans and not have to spend a dime on P pots. Haven't tried bones to peaches there yet, probably won't). Grats on that trip kemikalkadet, looks like you got a huge profit from all that :P A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintendomaster2024 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Your method works wonders on those who have high def/range (not even necessarily range) and that have access to bones to peaches, but it's requirements are much more difficult to obtain than Jordan's method. So, in short: high def+equipment+bones to peaches=your method Average range+prayer = Jordan's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Your method works wonders on those who have high def/range (not even necessarily range) and that have access to bones to peaches, but it's requirements are much more difficult to obtain than Jordan's method. So, in short: high def+equipment+bones to peaches=your method Average range+prayer = Jordan's No one's really pushing anyone's method onto anyone, it's their choice. I could care less if I see someone praying down there, but it's always good to have more then one way to go about something, and here we have our two, both with some extent of "sub-guides" that are just methods people have taken up to see what's best for themselves. I know that there are alot of people who can't use, can't afford or aren't willing to buy guthans, but I also know that for those who can afford the items and have gotten their defence levels up this is a great stragedy, something to definetly consider using instead, but no doubt the prayer method suits many people better then this method and all the similar ones that we've found. I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say in that post, but there you have it, it all comes down to what you can and can't do, and preferences. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teagod2004 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 wow finally someone found that lovely money making method hehe i found u dont really need def and wield guthan there.. ( However, guthan does help you last longer there..but after my calculation you actually still make money even u do pray tanking) that is the best i could do..( i am pray tanking) my equipment.. the clue is lvl 3 btw.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArgon Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 To all those prayer poter's. 20 prayer pots a run, regardless of how many bars you get... Would you want 140k in your pocket, or 140k drank when you can use bones to peaches for free... 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroclixplay Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 not everyone has bones to peaches Visage!!! 24/1/08Fire cape acheived 8:48 pm 9/10/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 not everyone has bones to peaches People usally sell b2p tabs on the forums though for like 2k each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwin_loser Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 not everyone has bones to peaches People usally sell b2p tabs on the forums though for like 2k each. But then you cant use the nats and waters that are dropped, so u cant stay there forever, and a part of your profit is gone. But bones to peaches is not more than 4/5 hours MTA. So what's the point? Im gonna try with pray becuz i got high prayer lvl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kds1398 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Screenie right before I left... I only left because the low inventory space was getting annoying: I wouldn't discount using this method along with bones to peaches instead of wasting pray pots. I went from 83 to 84 range here today... My inventory for the trip: 2 range pots, 2 super defense, 1 nat, 1 water, 3 law, 1 coin, 1 addy bar, 3 imp boxes, 16 monks, lava battlestaff... Here is a profit breakdown: Costs: barrows repair: 57,718 8645 bolts= 34,580 2 range pots = 6,000 2 super defense = 6,000 16 monks = 6,400 =========== Total Cost: 110,698 Drops: 620,521 coins 1156 addy bars x 2700 = 3,121,200 2851 Water runes x 13gp = 37,063 151 Nats x 280 = 42,280 198 Bloods x 450 = 89,100 2189 Airs x 10 = 21,890 237 Chaos x 110 = 26,070 62 Laws x 300 = 18,600 16 Ranarrs (I imp boxed 6 back to my bank) x 7000 = 112,000 1 Dwarf = 2,000 1 Loop Half = 20,000 ======== Drops Total: 4,110,724 Total profit: 4,110,724-110,698 = 4,000,026... I can tell you that I average 500 addy bars per trip using the prayer method and I have to take 22 p pots with me per trip, so the using the pray method would decrease your profits by an additional 660k which is the cost of 88 pray pots. Here is my gear, 101 range attack, 226 range def: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 good guide but i prefer jordans way soz \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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