Multiple replies in H&A

So... recently I've been seeing things like this in the Help and Advice forum all too much. What's wrong, you say? Well, take a look. "Paaaaarker" asked a reasonable question, then it was answered by "icecube". "Paaaaarker" once again posted to say that he understood the answer, and that should of been the end.

Nope.

*No offense to the following players, as I said before I see this quite often, an even did it myself some when I was new here.*

"meol" posted next, essencially just saying what "icecube" said before. And then the final straw for me, "alphakoldes" comes in and says that the above two are correct and welcomes "Paaaaarker" to members.

Why, thanks for the welcome, but it's better suited for his blog.

Get my point? Any idea on how to solve the problem?

While it can be frustrating, there isn't really a whole lot we can do (at least not that I can think of). At least they are answering a question (even if it has already been answered) and aren't just spamming.

Welcome to the world of '+1 post count raising'. If it boosts their egos...let them be, they won't stop. :wink:

Could authors be allowed to lock there own posts in H&A?

Could authors be allowed to lock there own posts in H&A?

Could authors be allowed to lock there own posts in H&A?

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=449303

Option 8 - :mrgreen: .

Although constructive criticism is always welcome, I just feel the need to defend myself. In that post I posted this:

You can't Burthorpe tasks that Duradel himself can't assign. Even if you got a Skeleton task from another master, you can't burthorpe it because Duradel himself sometimes assigns that task.

As an answer to this:

i thought you could burtharope everything that wasn't assigned by him.

Because I thought it was still unclear for him.

Although there sometimes are spammy posts, you can always report them, so I see no need in locking the threads in H&A. Also, Dragon R seems to be pretty lenient when it comes to locking threads based on author's request, so that works pretty well.

Anyway, it's much better to have too many answers than not enough.

[Edit] Also, I find that closing threads eliminates the incentive to use the Search feature, especially when the original posts are edited to "question answered, please close". In my opinion, letting them open also allows the Posters to post further questions without needing to write more threads, also allowing other people to include additional tips or advice.

I don't think it's a problem - think we're getting a little nitpicky. :) I wouldn't try to discourage people from posting answers to questions, even if it is just repeating what someone else said above. I know it was nice for me to have a couple of responses to the question as having more than one mind working on the problem usually ensures a more accurate answer.

What seems to be a more apparent problem is people asking staff to close their threads.. why? I have never understood this desire to have one's thread closed, especially if it's a tech problem. The point of having a forum is not for people to create a thread and have it never be looked at again but rather for threads, old and new, to be posted on with new commentary. There can't be any new discussions or questions raised if all the threads are locked or the original post is wiped clean and replaced with "Question answered."

I enjoy the edit ability... but at times, I wish it were disabled under situations. And I think the increased amount of users asking for staff to lock their threads needs to be cut back a little - should only happen if a thread is getting out of control, IMO.

I enjoy the edit ability... but at times, I wish it were disabled under situations. And I think the increased amount of users asking for staff to lock their threads needs to be cut back a little - should only happen if a thread is getting out of control, IMO.

Then again, how many wouldn't post if they had a failsafe if they were getting flamed?

Well even if that's a small reason, the fact is, it doesn't seem to kind to take away the privilege of 'being able to lock your own thread on request'. Just seem your taking away a forum right, even if it's an unwritten one. It's almost like taking away post count... :-#

*Just on a very small sized scale*

Not that I enjoy the right, I could care less about it, just that's how it appeals to me.

I agree with The Sith, I find that I may have a different answer for the OP, but by the time I get to the thread, it may have already been locked after only one answer. I think that having multiple answers reduces the chance of getting the rare incorrect answer to your question. Threads shouldnt be locked unless theres spam or off-topic stuff going on. You can just let the answered topic drift to the bottom of the page naturally.

I enjoy the edit ability... but at times, I wish it were disabled under situations. And I think the increased amount of users asking for staff to lock their threads needs to be cut back a little - should only happen if a thread is getting out of control, IMO.

I hate it when this happens in T&C. A thread gets answered and the OP either goes and edits the entire thing to 'fixed' or has a mod lock it (which is usually a global mod that has no part in T&C other than locking threads there). It's damn annoying when a thread gets locked after a 'fix' when there's still plenty of discussion that could go on about the problem posted. Disabling edits would be fine by me, but would be a bit extreme for some (who would then scream their head off). The best solution would be to implement changes in PhpBB that keeps a copy of the edited thread after the edit so you can see what was changed.

Hmm... why can't we just get rid of post count? It'd make life so much easier... :P

Hmm... why can't we just get rid of post count? It'd make life so much easier... :P

Do you want to try to convince Albosky to do that? :P

But seriously, if that was done the rank above your avvy would be blank. As long as the people who post are not spamming to raise their post count, meh, let them post. It doesn't hurt. If they were spamming, they'd be removed from tif. A win-win! :o :o

~Cow

I think convincing him would be quite easy. :wink:

About post count...

What's the use of it? I use it to see how much I should trust people... generally. Also help in H&A so you know who kinda know their stuff.

For H&A though, maybe we could have some sort of user rating thing? If a person answers a question in a helpful manner, the questioner could give that person a point, or something. I guess it still doesn't really solve the problem though...

In regards to post count - we've had this discussion a lot, heheh. We took a poll a while back and most people said that they would like the post count to stay, which is why it's still here.

 

 

 

Which forums are not included in my post count? Why not? (AKA Why isn't my post count increasing?!)

 

 

 

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This is because many of the posts in these forums are one line, or even one word, and do not constitute "worthy" posts.

Perhaps Help and Advice be added to this list??

Perhaps Help and Advice be added to this list??

Bad idea, because help and advice requires some incentive for posting.

In regards to post count - we've had this discussion a lot, heheh. We took a poll a while back and most people said that they would like the post count to stay, which is why it's still here.

 

 

 

Which forums are not included in my post count? Why not? (AKA Why isn't my post count increasing?!)

 

 

 

The following forums do not count towards your post count:

 

• 
   
   
   
  [*:2k6mmu6z]The market forums (Fletching/Construction/Hunter, Armour/Clothing/Weapons, Herblore/Farming, Smithing/Crafting, RuneCrafting/Prayer, Cooking, Bank Sales/Discontinued Items/Misc. and RSC Marketplace.)
   
   
   
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This is because many of the posts in these forums are one line, or even one word, and do not constitute "worthy" posts.

 

 

 

Perhaps Help and Advice be added to this list??

The reason H&A is not on that list it because of what it says at the bottom, "posts in these forums are one line, or even one word, and do not constitute "worthy" posts." Posts in H&A are considered worthy posts, for obvious reasons.

I don't know what other people think about H&A (especially the ones I'm trying to target) but I used to always look at H&A as a way to get some easy post count. I rarely, if at all, did "+1" posts, I just answered questions to the best of my knowledge. Of course, that was before others noticed H&A as, I'm assuming, a easy way to get some post count. I stopped visiting H&A for a while because all the questions were getting answered so quickly... but others stayed, and I'm assuming some of these are the ones that are doing these "+1" kind of posts.

Lot of assuming and guessing in there... :ohnoes:

In regards to post count - we've had this discussion a lot, heheh. We took a poll a while back and most people said that they would like the post count to stay, which is why it's still here.

Yeah, I remember that... One can still wish, can't they? :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which forums are not included in my post count? Why not? (AKA Why isn't my post count increasing?!)

 

 

 

The following forums do not count towards your post count:

 

• 
   
   
   
  [*:5lx9jz7j]The market forums (Fletching/Construction/Hunter, Armour/Clothing/Weapons, Herblore/Farming, Smithing/Crafting, RuneCrafting/Prayer, Cooking, Bank Sales/Discontinued Items/Misc. and RSC Marketplace.)
   
   
   
  [*:5lx9jz7j]RuneScape Clan Recruitment Centre
   
   
   
  [*:5lx9jz7j]Clan Archives
   
   
   
  [*:5lx9jz7j]Player vs Player
   
   
   
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  [*:5lx9jz7j]Rate This! (Achievements and Goals too!)
   
   
   
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This is because many of the posts in these forums are one line, or even one word, and do not constitute "worthy" posts.

 

 

 

Perhaps Help and Advice be added to this list??

 

The reason H&A is not on that list it because of what it says at the bottom, "posts in these forums are one line, or even one word, and do not constitute "worthy" posts." Posts in H&A are considered worthy posts, for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

I don't know what other people think about H&A (especially the ones I'm trying to target) but I used to always look at H&A as a way to get some easy post count. I rarely, if at all, did "+1" posts, I just answered questions to the best of my knowledge. Of course, that was before others noticed H&A as, I'm assuming, a easy way to get some post count. I stopped visiting H&A for a while because all the questions were getting answered so quickly... but others stayed, and I'm assuming some of these are the ones that are doing these "+1" kind of posts.

 

 

 

Lot of assuming and guessing in there... :ohnoes:

+1 :anxious:

(Lol, 200 posts :-w )

*Scolds*

See what I mean? :lol:

lol at 2 posts above. :lol:

No don't remove the post count from Help and Advise, I think if you did that sadly there would be less activity.

Hmm... why can't we just get rid of post count? It'd make life so much easier... :P

 

 

 

Do you want to try to convince Albosky to do that? :P

 

 

 

But seriously, if that was done the rank above your avvy would be blank. As long as the people who post are not spamming to raise their post count, meh, let them post. It doesn't hurt. If they were spamming, they'd be removed from tif. A win-win! :o :o

 

 

 

~Cow

Albosky was actually all for removing it but didn't because of the mass of idiots that would scream their brains out over a number when that huge 20 page thread started.

Just felt that needed a bit of correcting, since you thought Albosky would need convincing.

I never understood the whole point behind a post count rank. I find it interesting to see how many posts I have made already, but really I am in favour of a removal of the rank under the forum name, together with the number.

Put the number of posts in your forum profile only, as information.

But yeah, as Albosky said in the topic Cruiser pointed out, lots of people will be really really shocked if that happens. (I'd like to hear 1 good reason why)

The main issue with post count seems to be "Quality over Quanity..." Is there some way to reward a good post rather than the post just being there?

Hey look, I posted in that thread.

I've been seeing this a lot too. I personally report my thread and request a lock when my question is answered to stop further postings on it. I suppose that's all we can do.

If you see a thread with many of the same answer, you could just report it and put "answered" as your reason. I've done that a few times and some friendly neighborhood mods helped locked them :D.