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Junk won't be useless, technically... Let's just say those stuck with junk when free trade comes may want to considering gaining some ranks in Mobilizing armies... Or... a lot of ranks.

It wouldn't matter if the price caps were removed from the GE. The recommended price might be under but the market would still be able to function at a much more fluid rate. This is because the GE medium price would no need to match the street price for people to buy and sell at street price. I meant for such activities as Coinshare boss killing. If an item is worth 50 million, but the "medium" price is 35 million. I don't imagine gaps of that amount would be too common at all, but if something like that were to happen, would the players just have to cut it as a 15 million gold loss? Because I'm sure a lot of players would prefer to just coinshare as opposed to getting the drop, selling it, and then splitting it amongst themselves.

I would hope, but is there a way to update prices frequently enough to match the often times fickle prices from free trade? It wasn't uncommon to see a rare item go up as much as 5 - 10 million or more in a single day, then drop back down less than a day later. How often would the GE have to update to be able to maintain a close relation to the current price on an item that is very volatile, and would something like that even be feasible?

Nah man, we just have two smartasses here trying to imply I was saying anything about pumpkins, when in truth I was just sharing a picture of a player with a significant amount of them. I'm not the one spewing memes as retaliation.

...Cool story, bro? I'm not sure what my quote and your picture have in common besides both involving pumpkins. I never quoted you or mentioned you anywhere, I was just sharing the picture You some kind of genius?

Pumpkin is rarer I thought.. That's 71.4 billion gold, trade price, in pumpkins alone And there are a fair amount of players like this. that picture proves neither your point nor refutes his. You're implying I was trying to make a point, or refute his. Perhaps stop to think I was merely contributing a picture.

If every skill gave hidden combat bonuses that would be true. Such as firemaking giving you the ability to light weapons on fire for added damage - would be a combat bonus. Smithing making your armor - isnt. However smithing adding armor plating or spikes to your armor (for added defense or offense, respectively is) Also, another reason herblore shouldn't add to your combat is because it would give people combat levels they may not have wanted. It's not fair to suddenly increase people's combat after the fact; dungeoneering and summoning were both released with the knowledge that it would add to your combat. Dungeoneering does not add combat levels, technically. Which is my beef with the fact that Chaotics are allowed, yet Extremes are not. I think at least SOME of the new pots should be allowed, others not (IE Spec restores)

Pumpkin is rarer I thought.. That's 71.4 billion gold, trade price, in pumpkins alone And there are a fair amount of players like this.

In other news... The Chaos Elemental has taken up residence in a new multi-combat cave in deep wilderness. Untradeable potions such as extremes and overloads will be permitted inside the cave, and as a result, player-vs-player combat is disabled while inside. All boosted stats will be reset to your original level when leaving the cave. Not that I want that, but it's as simple as that.

Therell still be buy limits, better be. You know some rich troll will buy fire runes for 500ea.... and hell try to buy like.... a s***load Tie up the offers

While I can appreciate your enthusiam, all the currently existing threads discuss everything mentioned here. You'd be better off discussing them in those. However, for the sake of contributing... Makes me wonder if they'll add a looting option to clan wars.

Kid's got jokes I don't even think someone like you could begin to fathom the concept of an easy PK with contrast to today's and yesteryear's wild. I PKed maybe TWICE in the old wild. And I got beat down. I never made a dime. Our current form of PKing has come out. Back when it was 26king and you could killing the same guy over and over, and you could just throw on protect item to no longer be risking. I made probably close to 100 million gp from this current PVP system. 100 million I would have never made with the old system. And I bet you more than anything, a lot of the tricks were from people just like me; people who couldn't actually PK for s***, but were smart enough to do tricks and make money we didn't deserve. I'm not ashamed to say I exploited the system, considering it was almost encouraged to do so, and considering it was stated to not be against the rules. THAT'S EASY PKING. And with that being said, I look forward to PKing once again requiring you to be a PKer. People may have killed someone for a glory in the old wild, but hey, back then, when you killed someone with a glory, you got a glory. Now you get a VLS and Ancient statuette. At ~20m, that's the most expensive glory I have ever seen looted.

Even if every single "yes" voter, voted on EIGHT different accounts each, if they could only vote ONE TIME, PERIOD, the amount of yes's would still be higher than the amount of no's. So enough of that excuse please.

It's not that one will replace the other, it's that now we will have both. Jagex have not shown us that they can deal with the bots now, how could they possibly deal with more bots when this update goes through? Judging by what they said they just had a breakthrough in the last month or so with bot technology. I understand people not wanting to read what they say though considering they're too busy worrying about how terrible runescape is going to become. Or it would be based on knowing that Jagex's word in the past has been far from reliable in terms of bots? If you doubt Jagex's word, how can you believe them when you say they have been successful in any previous curbing of bot activity? Sounds like selective hearing to me. WITHOUT A DOUBT there will be more bots in game after this. The problem is there will always be bots, and if the total sum of bots + new bots isn't high enough to affect the icnreased levels of contentment from the update, then it's a good update. I can take a few more bots if it means I can help my friends out or actually get that Bandos loot.

Actually you should go to Rimmington yews in a f2p world and count the bots. DEFINITELY MORE THAN IN 2007. I went to Rimmington yews (which happens to be my favourite Yew cutting spot) in a f2p world and counted none. ...you have an obvious bot (is obvious) in your flippin signature. Don't tell me you don't see bots.

holy crap, this is the exact reason it was great when some of the pking types left the game. stupid and annoying trolls once again run rampant. I don't understand why people have the ability to spot a troll, yet they feed him anyway. If you are truly annoyed by trolls then stop giving them so much to feed off of by whining all day. Your tears only whet their apetite. I don't think it's a troll. I think it's just a (With respect to Necromagus) "not too smart person". The difference between a troll and a "not too smart person", is that a troll is typically an educated person, who tried to get a rise out of you by throwing logical fallacies at you, or just by trying to make you angry in general. I literally think that guy is just a "not too smart person". OT - I personally think nothing should be relocated, but perhaps just tweaked. Maybe a "safe route" to Corp, etc.

How foolish could you possibly be? As far as I am concerned, if you have multiple accounts you play on, you have a right to vote on each one, because this update will affect each one. Like Will said, for those who don't support the update, they are more than welcome to vote no multiple times. If there was any rule saying it was one vote per person, in lieu of account, maybe your argument would hold some form of validity. Fortunately for all the reasonable people, it does not. That being said, I have voted three times.

If there's going to be a dung requirement, it's probably going to be 70, to tie in with all the other boss requirements in the dungeon. Keep in mind, any brand new players to the game will eventually get to Godwars and this Boss will have been there "the entire time" to them. There's no guarantee this boss will be *phenomenally* harder than the other 4. There's hope, but there's no guarantee. But yeah, 70 dung if at all is probable.

Yes but that's unrealistic thinking In regards to removal of the GE and surviving before it, yeah, obviously we all lived without the GE (well a lot of us), but in the same regard, it made things far more convenient. I could survive without it again, but my god, I would throw a FIT if I have to go back to spending a half hour to sell slayer loot from the day in lieu of doing it passively while I continue slaying. It won't get removed though.

Staking is going to be f***** due to accounts with hacked crazy stats due to being reset for purposefully botting. Going to see some interesting staker builds if they utilize stat resets

i recall the rares market being extremely volatile at some times in w2 falador. I was trying to buy a santa for 23m when most were selling for 23.5. so i left for 20 mins. i came back people were buying santas for 26m and no one was selling. People catch on that if they just choose not to sell their items, people *will* have to offer more. They see the offers around them and follow suit. Now maybe this won't happen due to the lack of a mass of people, when using the GE, but Im worried for those who cant just throw money at an item because theyre rich. a lot of offers used to be made by looking at similar offers around them in falador park. that aspect might be missing when free trade is reinstated. im gonna feel bad for players who are uncertain of an items rough price and keep in an offer that has no shot in hell of being completed.

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I don't even Maybe a move back to off topic would be ideal