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At 120 Dung I would assume a Hood, a Hexhunter, a Sag Body, Primal Legs, and Primal 2H would be a pretty ideal setup, assuming the 5th bind. Would give the legs some use.

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When you drink extremes with the new wilderness, they will simply act like their super versions. If you drink then enter, your stats will be reduced to super level. It' not been confirmed that drinking them in the wild will even work, it's only been confirmed that your boost will drop to super level when entering. Though Mod Scorpion said he would run the idea of drinking them = supers by the Dev team

Don't use things you're not ready to risk on death. Save for maybe a good friend dying with it, I don't care who you are, if you just saw a sucker die with a partyhat, I know you're not blessing it.

An Overload costs more than a DDS, similarly, most of the extremes, if given a tradeable value based on their cost to make, could possibly make up a large portion of risked wealth. I don't see how one can compare risked costs when such a thing is true.

Even if we gave *proven* exp rates for anything, you would just go about your usual business and refute them without even bothering to test yourself. This guy is funny.

Forgot to note I used Eagle Eye, not Rigour

Done that with range, was pulling 194/hr. Full details about it are in xpx's Frost guide in Archive of Wisdom board

So I did a second trip with Range, and I think I nailed it this time. Eagle Eye was used. I did my own version of a setup, which is here [spoiler=Inv + Gear (29 PPots + Tele in Yak)] I kept things simple yet easy to follow by just redrinking my ExRange everytime I redrank my Super Antifire. Bringing an extra ExRange or two may boost overall kills by 2 - 4 more/hr, but it's so much easier to just dose both at once and not need to focus too badly. Summoning potions are still very vital when ranging, With this setup, the summoning potions lasted me for the entire first yak, and a few minutes of the second. From that point on I put bones in my yak as I withdrew prayer potions [spoiler=60 minutes in] [spoiler=100 minutes in] That is after 100 minutes, give or take some seconds. I had supplies to last an additional 10 minutes without cutting anything efficiency wise. It took me 4 minutes to load my yak and get to frosts, and I allowed 2 minutes to spare when I tabbed out. Since Yaks last 58 minutes each, this means you can stay about 110 minutes if you can load up fast. [spoiler=Final Trip Loot] Various details about supplies used, attention paid to, etc., are stated in the chatbox in the above pic. Average kills per hour was ~194.2 TO SUMMARIZE; Assuming Void deflector + ACP and CCBow with Archer (i), I could assume a rough 200 frosts/hr. Using Overloads, which I honestly don't recommend, or bringing 2 - 3 extra ExRange's could bump it to 203 an hour, with full attention, Rigour, and maxed everything, level and gear wise. For my next trip I would probably omit 1 - 2 Prayer Potions in favor of Summoning Potions to bank a few extra items to just slightly increase profit/trip.

I'm not looking for credit, I'm just trying to inform. Some people here seem to think I got out of my way to try and make s*** up. Not the case. OT I guess what would be a good 5th bind, assuming there were 5? More defense?

Who wut were veng qfc? To my knowledge it's not been posted anywhere. I have my resources though lol. I had to piece a few missing bits together myself to come up with a plausible conclusion but I am almost certain next month features a dung quest with an additional bind as a reward, with 65 dung needed. ... You have some super secret information source that you're too cool to tell the rest of us about? Yeah, I'm calling troll. Because I've trolled about every other bit of information I've ever spoken about, correct? Or wait, I could have sworn it was me who told everyone about Free Trade etc almost a week beforehand, and if I also recall right, you and a solid 30 others berated me for it, you specifically calling me gullible. I have access to High Level forums, Player Moderator forums, audio logs from RuneFest, and countless other stupid things. Just because I'm not at liberty to discuss which Jmods and Maxed players with connections have loose lips doesn't mean the things I say are trolls. You're entitled to your own opinion, fine, but if the update does come out, maybe you should learn to keep it to yourself as well.

Who wut were veng qfc? To my knowledge it's not been posted anywhere. I have my resources though lol. I had to piece a few missing bits together myself to come up with a plausible conclusion but I am almost certain next month features a dung quest with an additional bind as a reward, with 65 dung needed.

I did a round of range yesterday, and my first trip ranging, which had a few errors, still pulled me a bit over 180 in an hour. But you DEFFO do need summon pots still. I was juggling 8 bones on the ground at one point, with 6 in my mostly full of ppots Yak

Supposedly sometime next month, and I'm fairly certain next week, Jagex is adding a master quest that's going to allow a fifth bind at 65 dung, making some gear more viable to hold onto.

It's as simple as adding up the three no options. And I don't seem to understand why you think your opinion on the matter is the end-all one of the topic. "/thread" makes you look like an idiot.

I think it's at the point where you guys are arguing the same point over and over again. I don't think either of your stances will change. OT though I asked Mod Scorpion if he could throw those coding the final update the idea to make Extremes drinkable in wilderness, but they only boost you to Super levels. I CBA buying supers every time I want to PK, when I have thousands of extremes banked. He said it was a pretty good idea and had legging. I also asked the chances of allowing Overloads in the Wilderness, but making it so they only boost melees to 118's and Magic and Range to whatever their respective max boosts currently allowed are. He never got back to me. I wouldn't mind if Extremes and Overloads behaved as normal in the High Risk Wilderness worlds.

Ill be interested in how it copes with me selling a santa to my friend to 1gp then he sells back for 1gp, i then repeat. probably it is only influenced by trades through the ge

We don't need fair, we need balanced. Fox news'd

Was it necessary to make another thread instead of posting in numerous other ones with people with similar opinions.

Glad you're catching on. Also you're not bowing low enough, chop chop

Ohoho, I remember a few weeks ago when you said that the wildy might be coming back. You and your silly theories. What's funny is I have yet to be wrong, so maybe people should wise up and start listening. I have access to a lot of information about this stupid company and it's happenings. I was supporting you, you silly goofball. I know lol I was just saying either way. OT though, wondering what sort of changes will be made, since they said it won't be exactly the same as before.

Ohoho, I remember a few weeks ago when you said that the wildy might be coming back. You and your silly theories. What's funny is I have yet to be wrong, so maybe people should wise up and start listening. I have access to a lot of information about this stupid company and it's happenings.

I didn't read most of the replies, but uh, apparently the price will only update based on trades done in the GE, so if players plan to follow the suggested price closely, and if only GE trades affect suggested price, items will still be somewhat "stuck"

I'm calling BS, why would jagex let the maxed players know anything they don't tell the rest? Especially since it will get out eventually Uh, because Jagex tells Maxed players lots of things that they don't tell the rest. Nothing that gives them in-game advantages, unless you consider being told what names will be dropped and roughly when to be an advantage, amongst other little tidbits. I browse High Level Forums a lot. Besides, Jagex is known to have favorites. This is nothing new.

I don't think divine has done much rising if any- the vast majority of this has been partyhat values dropping, and thus divine having a stronger trading value in comparison. As for white vs. divine, it depends on how long term you're talking. If you were going to buy something and walk away for a year, my choice would certainly be a white. However, in the short term divine is almost certainly the better option, especially if you're an active monster hunter who can actually put the divine to use as well as keeping it as an investment. I'm keeping a divine because I like it and it's a lot less risky than partyhats at this point. Also, if in a few months white is like 200m over a divine, big deal- I've already made like 80m in drops with the divine since I bailed on a red for it a few weeks ago. That's the problem with partyhats- they're PURELY investments and beyond that are worthless, so you've tied up 500m+ in something you can't use. It wouldn't be tying up any money I currently possess as I would be getting a white for free when trade hits from a friend to replace the one that was taken from me years ago. My dilemma is more of a moral one than an investment one. Do I want to trade off a gift from a friend and get a shield, or keep the hat and be no worse off than before... Divine would arguably make me far more money, but the whole friendship bulls***. It's something I have to ponder.