Yoko Kurama

I cannot find it, can someone help with that?

Usually rollbacks happen to people who have audience with J-Mods. Most of the time, the perps get away with it.

Where? And since when has this been out?

If the melee power armor doesn't degrade to nothing, it'll wreak havoc on the economy. That and it would completely defeat the purpose of EOC EoC is already ruined. With bosses that most of the intended target audience can't do, billions of GP needed for things like T90 Mage, while T90 is super cheap, and very little for players to be able to do to obtain money for T90 stuff -- it's not much left to ruin. If they can fix this CS, then perhaps there will be some hope left as we will all be able to do things like Vorago then. I think everyone greatly overestimates the value of T90 mage. If you can make the armor itself, it costs about 80m for a set. And 60 hours of combat is a long while. Sure, it's not viable for slayer/training, but it's very likely you'll make more than 80m during that 60 hours if you use it for bossing. And Vorago really isn't nearly as hard as people make it out be. Meeting the gear requirements is difficult, as you need either full Virtus, Torva+Drygores, or Pernix/Ascension Bow to do it. But actually killing him is not all that difficult, once you get the strategy down. And with seismics entering GE price and the future changes to CS, many more people are going to be doing Vorago in the near future. It's not a matter of T90 mage being the best. That's beside the point. The point is that EoC was supposed to balance the three combat styles and make them equally available. This is one of the reasons why rune requirements (pre-EoC you needed bloods for most spells) were done to make spells cheap. The point about Vorago is not that he is hard. I don't mind that. The problem is that with the way the loot mechanics are currently in place, most people can't do Vorago. We don't all have 7-9 friends that are on RS at the same time as we are willing to do Vorago. That means we need to do forum teams. But we can't do forum teams because the CS price is completely unreflective of the market value. That means we need to do LS or FFA+S. Good luck trying to get forum strangers to hand you the splits. You could try to get your own LS Wand, but with teams consisting of several people (and forum teams are usually masses), that would take forever as well (you have to compete against dozens of people). That's the problem. As I said earlier, if they fix the CS then it's all good, if not, it will suck as it does now.

FFS why is the stupid pop-up for Rebuildathon still there? Did they not even one log in and try to play? Seems like such an obvious thing. And it's been two days already.

We were also owed a quest for this month (they said one quest per month for the rest of the year). So much for that. If the melee power armor doesn't degrade to nothing, it'll wreak havoc on the economy. That and it would completely defeat the purpose of EOC EoC is already ruined. With bosses that most of the intended target audience can't do, billions of GP needed for things like T90 Mage, while T90 Melee is super cheap, and very little for players to be able to do to obtain money for T90 stuff -- it's not much left to ruin. If they can fix CS, then perhaps there will be some hope left as we will all be able to do things like Vorago then.

And will probably be so ridiculously expensive, and boss (coinshare) mechanics so stupid that most high levels won't be able to obtain it again. So yeah, a one update month with the update probably being something only billionaires can do.... Won't this be nice?

The charity thing is nice, but the deflationary/money-sink thing is not. It's a waste of time. Do you know that there are actually people out there with 100B banks? At least two such people are in my clan, I believe. So, no, this money-sink won't accomplish all that much. It certainly won't deflate enough money to reduce prices (which is the goal of any money-sink). Like I said before, cosmetic rewards for things like 1B only convince wealthy people to throw away a few billion, while keeping the overwhelming amount of their money with them. It simply won't work (in another thread, someone suggested that it would). I think they should simply give up on money-sinks. Do it harshly, or don't do it at all. Tough love, and all that.

I was almost tempted to conclude that you were being flippant, but I will entertain it anyways. Getting those various stats for Ports is not free, and requires decent effort. Also, in EoC we were assured that tiers would matter, this is why, after all, dragon items were made useless. We were also assured that Ports would be the best armour in the game when it was released, and we were also promised that it would receive a set effect similar to Nex. Aside from requiring effort, it's also a high level item -- these are all more than enough reasons as to why it should be useful.

So the Rebuildathon isn't today? Will it be released later this week, or is it not happening this month?

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons. The part I was referring to was them making PoP stuff useless. I see no signs of them fixing that (even though it would be relatively easy to do). In fact, I have spoken to J-Mods about this, most of them don't even acknowledge that it's a problem. They all seem to think PoP is great, as is Tank/Power armour, and that there is nothing to fix. "Pop doesn't need the set effect we said it would get, it's already so great!", or "Don't want to make that Tank armour super broke, now do we?", "The set effects are best left to the Nex armours!" So no, I don't expect them to fix PoP by releasing T85 Pop armour or making Tank armour useful in the foreseeable future.

But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Jagex land is sustained by pure delusion. This is something that every player knows that tank armour is useless, they have been told that for a whole year. They obviously don't play their own game, as the old saying goes. When faced with player testimony after testimony and hard evidence, they simply refuse to listen to any of it as if they were some petulant child. Tank armour only has 10% more LP. Which is absolutely nothing for most bosses, where their hits are so high that one hit will fix the difference between tank and non-tank armour up. Same with the hits, tank armour takes about as much damage as non-tank armour (it's all down to luck, the hits), so that's nothing reassuring either. It gives you no defensive or lifepoint boost that is tangible over Power armour and only reduced damage. Total nonsense. They didn't have the sense to give it significant more LP, or damage soaking, nope, they just pretend as if nothing is wrong and everything is perfect. Before anyone tries to churn out some petty personal attack, I will premptively state that I have the Nex Gears AND PoP, so this isn't me whining because I am too poor to afford the Power gear. The point is I shouldn't have to buy the Power gear, that's not what we were told when they were marketing PoP to us. They said it would be the best armour; and now far from that, it's like the 3rd or 4th best armour, in the game. And of course, they promised buffs, but they didn't implement any of them, and then nerfed it after we had all spent our time getting PoP. The Power/Tank armour distinction sucks, and if Jagex would take a minute and look at the real world, not their delusions, they would realize it in 30 secs just like every single player in the game has.

One year down the road almost, and thanks to their utter nerfing and flagrant lying, most teams would prefer you have Bandos than Tetsu. That about sums it up as far as EoC balancing tiers goes, or their consistent lies about how PoP would still be useful.

I have suggested that for a long time, as well as the discrepency between weapons and availability, but it seems o fall on deaf ears. So much for EoC actually balancing the tiers: where some weapons/armours are obtainable, while the others are ridiculously overpriced. Especially when good armour/weapons are actually a necessity for most boss hunting moneymaking. Still Virtus isn't that bad, I have a full V set (armour + wand + book) for a long time. It goes up and down, it seems.

Prestige was a stupid idea, and I am happy it got canned.

I find it amusing that there were statistics by 'combat' bands, as if the combat level isn't a totally meaningless and pointless signifier that tells you nothing about a person's combat skills/ability/time spent. A joke, nothing more.

I am not really digging the whole skull-on-shield thing. It would be disturbing if those are the heads of the Barrows Brothers. And the middle one certainly needs a redo, looks like a broken shield, not 'the best shield in the game'... The other two shields, although skulls is not where I would have gone with the theme, do look nice.

They should try to make newer items somewhat matchable, aesthetically, with other items of their tier. Aesthetics is important, people!

Few days later, no announcement and no fix. Good to know their technical team is on it, and of course their customer support is top notch as well....

That would be a perfect way to implement this. I would think a repairing fee of 10-15M (at 99 Smithing) would be quite appropriate.

Your last statement is rather strange. What is a Joe supposed to do? Hunt for 84 scales (a rare drop) each time he needs a set of Sirenic armour? You think that's actually a practical way of doing it? Spend what is probably going to take weeks (if not months) assembling an armour that will degrade into nothing after however many hours? Come on, now, you don't actually believe that this is 'accessible', do you? I am finding it hard to believe. I suppose he could balance it out, hunt for some through slayer, and pay for the rest with his drop money -- but even that is a slow thing to do considering how low slayer drops are now. If the price drops to something much less, than you would certainly have a point. I think the price will drop, of course, but that it will stay rather high. I should hope I am wrong. Also, since only certain slayer monsters drop the scales (rather than most ), this certainly won't be as commonly obtained as people think unless they use points to force certain tasks. As for whether items should settle in immediately, I don't think it needs to bottom out, but it should certainly be a lot more affordable on day one than 250-400M for an armour that crumbles to nothing. Since it crumbles, and there is very high demand for it (because people need to replace their sets), it will always have a reasonably high price; I think they should have set the bar lower. I am not suggesting this for every drop of this sort, just this particular instance.

your last statement is simply false. if there is a demand for the item, it will be met by ppl wanting to cash in. Varago excepted here because of Street price, GE price incongruities. No. All I said was that over time, the freshness of the update will wane off and all the people who jumped on the camping bandwagon -- some of them will leave and go back to other things. What this means is there will a reduction in the supply, keeping prices up. I fail to see how it is false. Its price should be more than tradeable ports, but about the same price-range. Or statius hammers, for instance. It degrades into nothing after all. Setting up a drop rate that will, likely result in a 100M price at the very least at a time when a lot of the high-level money making methods are declining is not a sensible or good thing to do.

I also find that highly annoying. Isn't it enough that we had to wait a long while ago "there are going to be level 90 armours in the future", then we were reminded "in a few months", then a BTS comes out "it will be this month", and then, "just wait a few more months for it to drop in price"? Sounds like a lot of waiting to me. All sounds very silly. They could have just made it less rare on release... Based on its rarity, the prices may stay quite high (which is what Jagex explicitly designed degrading armours for, by the way). Right now, there are a lot of campers trying to get some of the profit. Soon, though, they will leave. The number of people actively hunting for it will drop, while the number of people wanting sets or looking to replace their old degrading sets will, presumably, stay steady.

It is a very bad price if it is a set that is going to degrade into nothing after a while, which Sirenic is. If it was like PoP or Drygores or Nex armours (repairable), than 250M would be a lot more acceptable.