While that is true, we aren't talking about the rest of the world's poverty issues and I think every one of us here is aware that there are billions of people in this world that experience a type of poverty that we will never be able to relate to. We have to keep in mind the context of America. What is the cost of living? What are our cultural values? What are our societal values? What is the value of our currency? While comparing incomes and living conditions across the globe can provide some staggering results, I don't exactly think that it's fair to demonize the American poor. It is immensely difficult to go against the cultural goal of this country, and that is lavish prosperity. Like magekillr said, television sets can be purchased at ridiculously low prices; the same goes for personal computers as well. Now I don't think that a family that is going hungry but has cable television is doing the right thing, but say their cable/internet bill is around $70/mo. Those of us who are buying groceries on a regular basis know that $70/mo is not very much for, say, groceries--especially for an entire family. Like I said, not smart, but not let's not demonize these people. I'm not demonizing. But I find it hard to have pity on people who use the government for necessities while spending on luxuries. Basic appliances are not luxuries - but multiple televisions, cable, internet, gaming consoles - those are luxuries. Hell, I'm not even poor (though not exactly rich) and we don't have cable, or gaming consoles, or multiple televisions just because there is a better, more practical use for the money than that. No, no, no I wasn't saying you were demonizing. I'm just saying in general because I have a feeling that's what this thread will turn into.