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I think this is a really good idea.

read above Yeah I see that now, I guess I just don't understand you guys. Is what you're doing for the greater good? Or is it just to leave this place with a scorched earth policy?

I'm not trying to say "Well, then leave" because frankly I don't think anyone should and I would hate to see anyone go, but I don't understand what point you're trying to prove by staying if you're already adamantly set on leaving?

There's been a lot of trying to cooperate. They brick walled and then banned a few of the people seeking compromise. That's not something they could have expected not to blow up at them. I don't pretend to know anything about people being banned or any of the PRIVATE conversations that went on regarding that, but I know damn well it's not that simple and I think you do too. I've had copypastes of pretty much everything said, so I daresay I understand the situation better than you. Needless to say, the admins were ridiculously uncooperative. It takes two to tango and I doubt you or any others in question are innocent just as much as I doubt the admins and moderators made unbiased decisions. Regardless, we've gotta put all that garbage behind us and move forward as community or this place will never be the same.

There's been a lot of trying to cooperate. They brick walled and then banned a few of the people seeking compromise. That's not something they could have expected not to blow up at them. I don't pretend to know anything about people being banned or any of the PRIVATE conversations that went on regarding that, but I know damn well it's not that simple and I think you do too.

Like I said in the Efficiency Troll thread, I don't think TIF is a police state or totalitarian nor do I think that the Mods or Admins are infallible. I really can't believe the community is dividing on this issue. People are taking sides and it's turning into Us and Them which will do nothing but cause bad things for this site and the people that enjoy it here, myself included. Both sides are bickering like god damn children. Grow up and act like adults.

There was no drift, I can assure you. While using transitions like "Another reason x affects y is..." may help readers who have trouble comprehending the main argument and remembering that argument as they read the article (maybe that includes you?), those same transitions make the writer sound like a high-schooler and are extremely cliche. Croce wrote the article in an essay style rather than the editorial format we're used to seeing. Maybe that's why some people are having such a hard time following it. Edit: I don't know where you're getting this from, because it's not true. Racheya is the only panel member that could come anywhere near being "pro-Jagex", but I think she's more optimistic than she is pro-Jagex. I know I've openly opposed Jagex before, most recently with the absolutely horrid Smithing update. The writers write what they want to--there is definitely not a pro-Jagex consensus among the panel members. Usually, the Jagex-bashing is done in General Discussion and, like I said earlier in this thread, we try not to recapitulate topics that have already been exhausted. There is a time and place for all kinds of discussion, but I don't think it would be a good decision for the Times to turn into a negative Jagex-bashing monster week after week.

I think H&A should be a place for all opinions to be expressed; where the OP chooses which method fits him or her best. I don't know why people see the need to force their method on someone else. H&A shouldn't be for extended debate--offer your opinion and leave it at that.

I don't think it's so much what you're saying but how you're saying it (the figurative "you", of course). As long as both sides keep it civil and respect the other side's views, there shouldn't be a problem. If the administration censors the efficiency crowd because they're efficient, they're making a huge mistake, but I highly doubt it will be like you are implying.

I couldn't help it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9IvhV3aAs

That girl is kind of...scary looking to me. And Macaulay Culkin was always a freakish ghoul, he was just a kid so it was okay.

I don't think Sam's V is thaaaat bad. That guy has cleavage.

That's pretty awesome, but they got the pronunciation of Uranus wrong.

The new hiscores layout is really bad. I liked how the old list could be viewed without scrolling. It was compact and worked great. I don't see the need to change it, not everything needs to look "streamlined".

Nice Botox.

People read the Times articles for an author's perspective and interpretation of a topic and they can come to the forums to read the community's general perspective. I don't think it's the writers' responsibility to formulate and articulate what the community collectively believes. Articles are supposed to be opinionated (to an extent) and they are supposed to dredge discussion, not recapitulate what has already been said for the past week in General Discussion

I disagree with that completely. Keep in mind we're also *trying* not to re-hash what has been said over and over and over again in General Discussion topics--typically where the extremely negative criticisms of Jagex occur.

That is a mighty deep V, Sam.

Link Here's a link to the FBI's Vault: Vault This is pretty interesting, they've got stuff in there on just about anything...even Biggie's death. Use the categories on the right hand side to browse different topics, the stuff on UFOs is under "Unexplained Phenomenon".

I used to think religion was a big deal, but it isn't really unless you make it one. The most fun I've had in a relationship was with a girl who was very much a Christian (Frank Zappa's Catholic Girls comes to mind...only kidding) and one of the most stressful ones was with someone who was very much similar to me in views--I don't believe in any sort of religion. I guess I'm not too picky, as long as she's attractive (pretty subjective, I know), in shape, and has a brain in her head I'll at least give her a chance.

Yeah, this guy joined the forums JUST to piss you off by creating this thread. What are you accomplishing by ripping his head off? Report the thread and move on.

Forgot about the heavy t-storms that were forecast to hit exactly when I was walking home tonight. It was an outright downpour as soon as I left my friend's house <_<

Dog Day Afternoon since I found out today that Sidney Lumet died and that he directed two of my favorite movies--12 Angry Men and Network (also directed Before the Devil Knows You're Dead which I would have never guessed was him)--I thought I would check this one out. It was awesome and I have much more respect for Al Pacino as an actor, his role was brilliant.

My friend won her and me tickets to A Perfect Circle's sold out show in St. Paul earlier today. Small venue and everything, sweeeeet :thumbsup:

It's been four years since I've done a math problem and I got 2. And I'm [bleep]ing proud of it.