Meh, if other sites can get it done, and clearly not losing money(since draynor.net has been around for years), then why can't tipit? Anyway, there was no way that you could compete to draynor imho, but if they're not coming back, it's worth reconsidering :/ Draynor has only been around since around October of last year. :P I'm jsut hoping Clooth will sort it out soon, it's happened before when Draynor goes days with being offline, but that was only ever 4 days max. :| Edit: Well according to a staff member Clooth has put Draynor for sale. :/