Lol I don't care about rippers, they can do w/e the hell they want, I mostly ignore them completely, if you ignore something it will normally go away, unless it's like a wall or something.. Anyway, I'm removing my Southpark sig seeing asthough you idiots keep crying about it.. I wouldn't say tracing was ripping, but I disaproove of it, using referance is absolutely fine, but actually tracing it doesn't really take alot of skill, I would prefer it if they just put in little dots where the main parts of the body were connected or ending then just do the other outline yourself, this way you will feel that you made it yourself, and not traced.