BlueLancer

I'd like you to clarify on that. As far as I know and have studied biology, history, species, etc.; humans are a species living on this planet, just like snakes, elephants, deer, lions, etc... Being a vegetarian causes deaths of innocent animals. Being a male vegetarian increases your chance of dying compared to non-vegetarians due to nutritional reasons. Just because you don't buy animal meat directly butchered by a human being... How does it make you a better person? If during the harvesting of wheat (so that YOU could have a special diet) animals die, you have sponsored it. There are so few "real" vegetarians that don't touch a single thing which has been alive I doubt I've ever even spoken to a "real" one. Even the British Vegetarian Society allows membership to people who consume chicken. Beef is meat.. Chicken is a vegetable then I guess? That's a ridiculous point. Nobody is calling Hitler "less bad" than Stalin because he caused "only" 6 million deaths compared to Stalin who directly caused the deaths of over 20 million people. I don't see why a person who "only" contributed to killing 5 animals for his meal is any more better than a person who contributed to killing 10 animals. They are both "guilty" for gathering their meal to survive. I agree with that. Killing animals as a sport isn't necessary for humans to survive. That's a different moral issue you have to take up with hunters though. Some people really don't do it for the food. I, though, don't kill anything unless I intend to eat it. I don't fish much, when I do, I eat everything I catch or share it with my friends. But really, what difference does it make to the fish if it's eaten or not? It's dead, it's not going to care if it's left there to rot or if it gets made into a nice salmon pie. How isn't killing mosquitoes and insects animal abuse? They need your blood to survive. They're not attacking you, just like people who shear wool off sheep to survive the winter colds aren't 'attacking' sheep. Does the sheep kill you because you're using his resources without permission? What am I improving towards? How is a vegetarian superior to a person like me who eats meat? Both types of person sponsor the killing of animals to stay alive. I'm not judging a vegetarian, and they can't judge me (especially if they eat animal meats such as chicken or fish).

That's what I thought as well, since I've also been to a hunting trip when I was a kid. I don't recall any of the adults "enjoying" the killing of a wild animal, the 'fun' part was chasing, spotting and actually finding a target. Sometimes, they'd also spot a very young animal and let it run along, they only targeted fully grown ones.

Sorry for everyone who lost a few posts, but I removed every idiotic remark made by Wallettheif and your comments to him. Expect to see him banned soon...

I never knew there where so may Chinese people on tip.it... I thought that the nice little government over there wouldn't even allow RuneScape. Nah, China is becoming pretty much like USA when it comes to freedom of speech and media. Not just that, but a lot of people here live in the US and have learned Chinese from their mother/father as a kid. The only stuff they censor is political events and negative opinions, but if you don't get involved with politics, you can do anything online a western person could do. North Korea on the other hand... Don't expect to even meet a North Korean internet user in the coming few decades :lol:

Actually, that's a myth. Only some 42% of shoplifters are female. However, the value of the items stolen by the 42% of women exceeds that of the stolen goods by the 58% of men. So women aren't exactly saints.. :)

Couldn't agree more with that.. I was just defending the principle of hunting (especially when done for food). I don't see what's particularly so "enjoyable" about killing another creature for your own entertainment, but if you're fine with it, I wont judge you.

I'm not sure what it has to do with astrology, but dreaming about materializing thoughts has been often contrasted in human psychology with the desire to remain in a child-like state, prefering blissful ignorance over a harsher reality. I, or anyone else here, aren't here to mock you for your beliefs or make fun of them. But really thinking that thoughts can materialize if you wish/beileve in it, is unrealistic. Thoughts can not alter reality. You could sit in a dark room for 70 years wishing for a spark of light to appear with all your energy; Nothing would happen. That can, at best, happen in a fantasy movie. Even religions take advantage of the fact people noticed they can't just pray for a God to make a change for them. Nothing happens by pure thought or wishful thinking.

As Jagex has said since about 2002, they do NOT read player made petitions. :lol: (Before that the community was so small/the game wasn't even commercialized, they did read them) The rant forum isn't intended to make Jagex members realize how awful of a job they're doing. It's there so you can blow off steam without being banned by spamming on other boards. Yes, it's possible a a Jagex employee would read a well-written rant, but don't count on it. That's not why the forum is here.

Well... I wonder what will China or any other country do with their factories and "economic growth" once they don't even have an inhabitable planet to spend their wealth on? :lol: China is one of the worst polluters and emitters of greenhouse gases... They might even have to postpone the olympics because Beijing is so polluted you can't see further than about 20 meters ahead of yourself in some places. But yeah, I guess it's worth it. After all, the 10% economic growth makes up for all those people who die because the air is so filthy.

^ Use that thread for introducing yourself. :) http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=583381

Never attack the person behind the post, if you oppose his/her ideas, post it. But an argument towards another person's personality, gender, age, nationality etc. is the dumbest thing to do in a debate. (Unless it's clear the person is just troll-baiting or being an all-around moron by spamming all the time, making irrelevant posts, insulting others constantly etc)

Quite interesting the BBC did an article on Jagex :) BTW: Is it just me, or do the graphics in those screenshots have much better graphics than the real RuneScape? I don't recall being able to play at that resolution, with monsters having that clear textures. :lol:

A lot of auto-bots were probably unsophisticated, using maybe 3 frames of an animation to detect a tree, then cut away at it for ages. Changing the sprite size screws up auto-cutters big time. :) Not only will they (those pesky cheaters) need to recode their entire programs, people still clicking randomly near a tree but just going up and down will be so easy to detect by Jagex as using an old bot.

Humans as a species don't need any of the above to survive (though, since you'd possibly dismiss it, war [based on resources] is and has been a necessity in overcrowded populations where too many people in 1 area were tapping into the resources of the region). But we need to kill animals to survive. Especially in dry continents and countries, raising livestock to kill them for food is the only way for those humans to stay alive, such as in sub-saharan countries. In countries with more vegetation, killing certain big animals (such as deer) is still a necessity to keep them from overpopulating and causing major damage to society. Why waste the food by throwing it away? I still don't understand the "you cause more damage than me" argument. If one dictator has killed 10,000 people, the another 50,000, they're just the same. Nobody's going to say the man who killed "only" 10,000 people was a 'good' or 'better' man. Except, I didn't kill that many people. I didn't kill a single person. I only contributed to killing animals who were bred to be food. Have you ever gone fishing? Have you killed flies and mosquitos that were bothering you? Or did you just let them suck your blood and go away? Nobody is perfect in this world. Despite how small, nearly *everyone* has killed some other living being. And I don't frankly see how 'size' makes a difference.

I don't quite get how it's a "bandwagon". I mean, I have brains, but I didn't jump on the "The Earth is round" 'bandwagon'. I figured upon reading enough convincing evidence it's a fact. Just because you deny it or make a conspiracy YouTube video about it doesn't make it untrue...

Yes, at age 10. I think it was a school trip as a part of Biology. I can barely remember anything, the animals didn't seem anxious or anything, but we watched some video where they prepared the farm animals for slaughter. I don't see how it's a copout, even if a vegetarian caused the deaths of 10 animals indirectly by sponsoring the farmer by buying his product, it's just the same as me eating pieces of a cow that was slaughtered. I'm not a proponent of carnivorism or vegetarianism either. I'm just human. I don't have a moral issue about eating anything. Every animal lives or feasts on another living organism, most often another, smaller animal, but in agricultural societies also plants and grains. The world would have next to no species alive if it weren't for bigger animals eating the smaller ones. And as far as biology goes, humans are just another species on the planet. We're lucky natural predators like dinosaurs/giant lizards/etc. are long dead so they can't hunt us for food. What's wrong with doing what every other animal is doing?

As the above article pointed out, it's not a myth. If you are a vegan, you contribute to the killing of innocent animals just as much as a meat eater. Why does it matter if it's intentional or not? It's this simple: If you buy wheat products, you sponsor the killing of animals. If you buy meat, you sponsor the killing of animals (though animals raised for the sole purpose of being turned into food get a much more humane death than being cut into a thousand pieces by razor blades) If all you eat is vegetables, fruits and berries grown in your backyard and you wash them personally to make sure not even a single insect is on your tomato, apple, strawberry or lettuce, then you can talk about "morals".

While I agree a test of 100 wallets isn't even nearly a big enough sample to draw conclusions like the one in the thread title, you can't say you'd be surprised if say, Harvard conducted a similar study with 10,000 wallets in the UK and ended up with pretty much the same results (men are more prone to material theft than women) Acknowledging that doesn't make men look like thieves in general either. Women steal more by shopliftingÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâù than men do, even though women only account for 42% of shoplifters. Women are just too embarrassed to be caught stealing in public... They're no better than men otherwise. :lol: ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâù Source: Professor Joshua Bamfield & Hollie Franks, Centre for Retail Research, Nottingham

Yeah.. It's not like we're really saturated with things left to talk about on off topic. :lol:

Hi :) Read this announcement regarding treasure trail clues: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=401100

Making a signature takes significant effort.. Would you just make a signature for nothing to a stranger? You can't just press a button which says "Generate random cool looking signature for a person - Click here" If you don't believe me, open up Microsoft Paint and try making a signature worth using. Later on you can use/buy Photoshop and learn skills for making sigs if you're tired of drawing strawmen. Go here to request a signature: http://forum.tip.it/viewforum.php?f=16 Note, it's up to the artists to make you a sig/avatar or not. Try having a more professional attitude and maybe one of them will make you a nice sig :)

Hi 8-) Post your video here: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=710789

Deer hunting is usually done for fun,that's what the threads about no? While it's technically for "fun", it's necessary to control the deer population from overpopulating, spreading too close to human habitation, causing traffic accidents, starting to attack farm animals/destroying crops, etc. And as you can see from the page 1 pic, most people don't just waste a hugely valuable deer by killing & letting it rot in the woods. The skin and meat are worth a lot of money.

I've been twice to Japan and still learning the language (since 2000).. I can easily say they treat foreigners with genuine hospitality (though the younger folk sometimes start whispering stuff if you stay around them). There aren't many permanent foreigners living in Japan yet, but the number is growing all the time. Maybe about 10% of all shops are western in the Shinjuku district of Tokyo (which is pretty much the most commercially active place in the whole country) and the big majority, maybe 70%+ of hotels are owned by western companies. But if you don't know *any* basic japanese, or can't remember even a single Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana sign, you could be lost very soon even with a map.. :shock: Fortunately, nearly all younger Japanese people can speak English to a degree.

Deer hunting is usually not done for fun, it's done also for the food. Far more animals are killed while growing vegetables on vast corn/wheat/etc fields which are covered by two or more vehicles which have razor sharp blades for harvesting grain, corn, etc... So in that way I don't see how a moral discussion fits here anyways. Unless you live 100% by solar energy/synthetic sugar, you are just as guilty of killing/sponsoring the killing of animals by being a meat eater, vegetarian, pastafarian or whatever. It doesn't matter if you don't personally kill those animals that cross the wheat fields; Just as I don't personally kill my deer; We are both guilty. That's how life is. By buying farm products you encourage the farmer to continue what he's doing; By buying meat I encourage the hunter to do the same. The only person who can say he lives by not being a part of killing other animals/species, is one who totally grows his own food. And I don't think there are many of those on tip.it