That's actually wrong. If you fight in dangerous mode in CWA, food can be looted. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... ing_to_war Read more here. So again, I really don't see the hangup with CWA :s Well, a few things. 1) Returning. It's infinitely faster in a cwa fight, regardless of safe or not. If you can return too fast, it makes pkris boring. 2) Loot. It isn't just about food. You want the other clan to suffer when you are beating them, and they suffer by losing rune. At the same time, it benefits no one to lose rune when it can't be looted. 3) Thrill. Pvp worlds are thrilling. As much as we say we despise crashing, it is an integral part of the pvp experience and I think that many like the possibility that anything can happen. 4) Tradition. Old schoolers remember the wars of the old wilderness, and pvp comes fairly close.