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20,898 construction xp 6,966 slayer xp Both 99 Fanatic level 134 Zamorak Warlock, uses Flames of Zamorak and is weak to water.

Uhhh... aren't demons weak to range now? Why does it sound like we are getting melee gear to fight monsters that use magic and are resistant to melee? They couldn't be that dumb... right? Right? It could really go either way.

That diversity meant that one stat could be picked out and capitalized on which would carry you through the game. Don't get me wrong, I loved the diversity as well but every time new armor came out it was "how much str?" or "how fast?".

The drops will always be worth less than had it not been instanced though which I believe was Vezon's point. I'm wondering though....if this boss is as hard as they say it is then judging by how empty Nex and corp have been (in the past when drops were actually worth anything) instancing might not be needed at all.

True on both points, however I prefer a fight with the game rather than a fight with players, even if the payout is lower.

Instanced team boss? Yes please. Because Torva is spiky and jet black and makes everyone want to be you.

You can not get it, get the cape legitimately or cheat. All 3 options in this situation are bad ones, however a hard choice doesn't mean that you can just shrug off the responsibility that comes with it.

It's very relevant, it's effectively an exaggerated example of what griefers and cheaters do in games. If you can't justify it in real life don't try to justify it in a game. You're comparing apples to oranges here. RL and RS may be similar in some instances, but regardless of how similar they may seem, they are not equal and therefore it is irrelevant to form arguments based on such comparisons. I'm comparing real life apples to virtual apples. Someone who will knock over your sand castle in real life vs someone who will destroy your castle in minecraft. Reality to a simulation. How is that not a completely legitimate argument?

You agreed to a contract when you signed up to play Runescape. Now, you can bot all you want, but when you click that button to run your macro, that's your hand, not Jagex's. There's a difference between Jagex giving you reasons to bot and Jagex forcing you to bot. A person giving you reasons to hurt/kill them does not mean that it becomes ok to hurt/kill them.... Of course it doesn't, where did that come from?

It's very relevant, it's effectively an exaggerated example of what griefers and cheaters do in games. If you can't justify it in real life don't try to justify it in a game. You agreed to a contract when you signed up to play Runescape. Now, you can bot all you want, but when you click that button to run your macro, that's your hand, not Jagex's. There's a difference between Jagex giving you reasons to bot and Jagex forcing you to bot.

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I'm fairly certain that when you use macros you are breaking the contract you agreed to when you signed up, so it is at least ethically wrong and possibly legally. If you think that playing Runescape is "jumping through hoops" then go play a game that is actually fun. Alright, let's try a real life example of this. A man walks into a gas station, shoots everyone and cleans out the cash register. Now according to you, this is the gas station owner's fault for not making it technically impossible for the attacker to murder everyone inside. For all of the usual people who will tell me "wow way to go off the deep end, you're comparing griefing in a game to shooting people?" you can use your imagination and scale everything down. One man is directly gaining a benefit at the expense of others, but it's not his fault because it's possible. I can't understand how anyone over the age of 10 can actually believe this to be true.

Except the one person botting 200m cooking has it within his or her power to train legitimately. Instead, I have players telling me botting is ok because the game is boring. Because they have no time to play anymore. Because Jagex released update that they don't like. Because everyone else is botting. Because it's easy to get away with. Because it doesn't affect anyone. Because the game won't last much longer. If you don't like the game, it's time to stop playing.

He never said anything about "ruining" the game, just that it affected the game and that the botting players didn't seem to care. As someone who is/was going for 200m xp in multiple skills you must realize that even a small thing like a single player botting will effect the entire game, whether it's "just botting cook" or full on gold farming. Apart from the direct act of removing resources and adding finished products, your attitude and blatant use of bots will also encourage many players to bot themselves which is far worse than just one player gaining levels illegitimately. Each player that bots 200m cooking takes over 800,000 raw rocktail out of the game.

The thing that really bothers me is the whole "stick it to Jagex" train of thought that seems to be shared by many high level bot users. If you want to bot, just bot. Don't tell me that you think you're some kind of vigilante folk hero to try to justify it to yourself though.

People actually pay money for those things?

Letting us write songs would be like letting us actually put ore into the furnace, shape the ingots by hitting it at different angles with different hammers, quench the metal, shape the rivets/plates and put the whole thing together...far above and beyond the type of game runescape is. Also that music skillcape has been floating around for...it has to be 4 years at least? I wouldn't bet on anything coming of it anytime soon. I would work sort of like any MIDI input program - you'd have a simple interface, with the y-axis being the notes - 0 would be A0, 8 would be A1, etc. The x-axis would be how far into the song the note would be, or when the note would be played. You could draw the note in yourself, and have maybe 32 bars to work with? You could then write short, simple, songs or melodies (32 bars at the tempo of the song I mentioned above, Stranded, would be like one minute and fourty-five seconds or something). It's a tad difficult to explain, but the best way thing I can say is look up how actual music-making software is designed. I use Reason 6.5, a professional music-making software, to make music, and the interface is actual somewhat simple. I have recreated many Runescape songs, and I have the MIDI files for about 500 of them. There aren't a whole lot of instruments going on in these songs - referencing Stranded again, there's the "crystal" synth, a pizzicato, two string sections, a drum, a French horn, two pads, (pads are like synths but are very wide and atmospheric), and a cymbal. These instruments are used in many of their songs, and if they put the transposed samples (or "live" samples, might work better) into the game, people could simply draw in notes, and have a song that uses the same instruments as the game's official soundtrack. I've never played Mario Paint, but I hear it has a somewhat similar interface in its music part, if that helps you visualize what it could look like. Oh, I believe it's possible don't get me wrong, but just like making smithing realistic it's a bit overkill for what the average player wants.

Is it just me or does the idea of a music skill sound really boring? Letting us write songs would be like letting us actually put ore into the furnace, shape the ingots by hitting it at different angles with different hammers, quench the metal, shape the rivets/plates and put the whole thing together...far above and beyond the type of game runescape is. Also that music skillcape has been floating around for...it has to be 4 years at least? I wouldn't bet on anything coming of it anytime soon.

Why damage part of the game just to hinder someone else?

Level 85 isn't high level...everyone knows that "high level" is actually determined by multiplying your highest skill level by how conceited you are and then dividing that by the number of players on your friend's list with a lower level in the given stat. Simple!

It's random.

I'd rather just leave mechanized things to the Dwarves, they've always been a convenient scapegoat for with this kind of stuff.

Kind of divided on the idea of engineering. It sounds like a good skill, but would bring the technology of runescape a bit too far imo. Without it we already have gunpowder weapons, anything past that would feel just a bit too modern for me.

They don't call him "Dura 'dragons' Del" for nothing. [spoiler=Tip]He will give you a shit ton of dragon tasks, so it depends if you like those.

Everything. Really, I don't even use it most places because it kills things too fast and in turn forces me to click more.