Grimy_Bunyip

Oi Zaaps, u need to follow the nomenclature on your keyer log or the spreadsheet will read things wrong ;o Shadow Forger = Forger for example. The details are on the nomenclature page. Losing Games also has the same problem atm. If you're feeling lazy just share access to [email protected]

maybe we'll publish them when we get more keyers, with fuller logs on them :P as of right now there's not much to see.

I mean it's possible for a keyer to cross a line. But i don't think you've provided enough evidence to prove that he did yet.

Why didn't you just drag the gate to it anyways. Why didn't you suicide on boss.

Are you already wearing completionists cape? And that's what it requires to trim it? what the differance between trimmed and normal? We'll have to check in with Castle Wars when he does get it :P O good lord...

ud better glitch urself a placeholder b4 jagex fixes it.

I would definitely say jimi takes the blame/honor. It's more correct to just give it to the starting keyer in basically all situations. A notes field should be there to note that you took over keying. ^^ starting keyer

Varrock plate is a bigger boost in experience. Than the new set? Still people that don't mine alot might want to get it? Besides, it's the hype of a new update that creates the initial demand when the update is launched. They might go high for a couple of hours after update release and then go back.. varrock plate is on the order of +10% ores/xp. neither dpick nor this pathetic 2.5% gold armor set beat that. Dpick might come close tho.

1 mil wager on the completionist cape requiring you to transform into and or make use of a chicken to acquire it. any takers?

be careful with how you spell the name of the bosses, The coding won't recognize it if you don't type their names in a certain fashion. The nomenclature's on one of the tabs for reference. Gulega, Tokash with no ' for example.

I'm really curious to know what the stats are. Ardougne cape abilities are pretty much confirmed. I'd say fire cape and soul wars cape are fair game. What does that leave? Ava's alerter (+5 ranged, ammo retrieval) God Magic Capes (+10 magic, bonus to god spells) Maybe these two, because they're poosssibly required to get the completionist cape? Spottier Cape? Would be interesting. Spirit Cloak? Would be pretty OP, and it's not like you NEED to buy a spirit cloak for completionist. And the rest of cape slot items are pretty much just random stuff like HAM cloaks and what not.

Cele staff is good for learning how to survive without armor. But I prefer platebody for keying. But I keyed without armor before I picked up a platebody. It's good practice to take the hard route early on. But at the end of the day, what percentage of your floors do you actually key? if it's not more than 50%, definitely stick with cele cat. I key 95% of my floors Then either pick up a platebody right away, or key a few floors with cele cat until you're good at surviving without platebody armor, then get it.

Cele staff is good for learning how to survive without armor. But I prefer platebody for keying. But I keyed without armor before I picked up a platebody. It's good practice to take the hard route early on. But at the end of the day, what percentage of your floors do you actually key? if it's not more than 50%, definitely stick with cele cat. the bind guidelines are: Platebody if a player keys at least 75% of the time. As for cele cat, just be aware that it's bad to have TOO MANY cele cats on the same team. More than one, and you start competing over fire rune drops, which is bad. but this is practically never the case.

I just added a bunch of doodads to the spreadsheet! You'll probably need to make a fresh copy of my current spreadsheet, so the new doodads are working too. Once again, you'll know you're done when I have the link to your spreadsheet, and your data is up and running on the following page: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AldEhLOK6ejJdGZDZFMzZm9qRm9rZkU5YWNrMGNDR1E&output=html

Preferably yes, but the spreadsheet is coded to filter out floors you do not key. So at the end of the day, it actually doesn't matter. You don't NEED to fill out all the columns. all I'm really looking for is deaths/level mod/bonus rooms/floor time but the more you fill out, the better. I'd prefer you only include floors done with at least yourself and one other DGSer

If anybody is having trouble with downloading and setting up the spreadsheet, just share the spreadsheet with me so look at the top right share -> Add People -> [email protected] -> Can Edit and then give me the link. I'll fix it up for you.

Attention Ranked Keyers. I'm going to highly recommend that you all start logging all your floors. (all of them, not just the good ones) It'll be useful to have some objective idea of how our Keyers are doing, especially if we intend to grow bigger in the future. Even if you don't care about that, the google doc spreadsheet you'll be using to input your times will have a nifty data filter :D So please, ranked keyers, start a spreadsheet with the instructions below. And post here with your Spreadsheet Key. You can find the spreadsheet key between the "=" and "&" sign in your link <3. if you are too lazy to send me your spreadsheet key, just send me the entire link to your spreadsheet!. And make sure you make the spreadsheets are public by clicking the share button at the top right. Share -> Change -> Public on Web Here's a picture to help you out: Grimy's DG Times Open the link. File -> Make a Copy. (you will need a gmail account for this) Then edit your downloaded file from there. Don't forget to delete my entries. This spreadsheet is for your own key times and only your own. There are two bright green boxes! The second one, put your name in there. The first one, you can put in the name of another player, or of a boss. And the spreadsheet will output your average floor time, and # of floors with said person/boss. Screenshots are important! I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU SCREENSHOT YOUR FLOORS FOR TWO REASONS: 1- It's easier to screenshot first, then input the data into the spreadsheet later if you're doing a row. 2- Proof, should we ever come asking for it. I recommend using some sort of software to speed up the screenshot taking process though, so you can quick end faster. Some people use: Gadwin Printscreen Mu has a Python module that can save images directly from printscreen/clipboard. I personally prefer using AHK code. The script i used is listed below: (do note TIF censored the code, replace "[Caution: Executable File]" with .3x3. only with e's) [spoiler=The following is some AHK code I use to speed up the screenshot taking process] Numlock:: { SendInput {PrintScreen} Run, mspaint[Caution: Executable File], %windir%\system32\,Max sleep 200 WinSet, Top, , Untitled Send ^v sleep 200 Send ^s } return Nomenclature This spreadsheet requires exact spellings for the average floor time with X script to work. So the nomenclature for bosses is as follows: Warped: Blink Dread Gulega Kalger Gorger Hope Occult: Necro Trio Rune Flesh Thunder Grave Abans: Geo Ballak Forger Horde Bulwark Curse

have we tested if dreadnaut agro is affected by prayers like hope devourer is?

I sat in a mercenary room for 2 hours smacking them and recording how often I missed and how often I landed an accurate hit.

Not necessarily. Good turmoil flashing can make primal baxe better than a primal 2H. That's up to you, is your click rate good enough? Ultimately you want to train your clicking rate somehow. The question is which monsters. I've been collecting data. The answer may come out that too few monsters have enough defense for prom 2H to be better. But, the data's not complete. There's definitely monsters where primal 2h > primal baxe without baxe. But short of high tier forgotten warriors and brutes (which should be maged), there might not be enough monsters where prom 2h > primal baxe to be justified. Once again, need a little more data. Namely on maxed level giant bats and ghosts, and maybe a few other monsters. And regardless of what the data comes out to, you should always be exercising your APM, whether or not it's done via 2H -> CSB switching or not. Anyways, so far it's clear that a primal baxe is better DPS on a tier 11 ranger from a mercenary leader room than a prom 2H. Prom 2h is slightly better than a tier 11 mage from a mercenary leader room. (about 1.02 to 1.03x better) These 2 forgottens should be some of the highest defense units in the game short of something that you should be maging. (IE high level demons, brutes, forgotten warriors) So this is promising news for the primal battle axe. however, if the mercenary leader room summons are anything like monolith shades and ghost room ghosts, they have reduced defense. If they do have reduced defense, the prom 2h might be better on normal tier 11 rangers/mages. Furthermore bats and ghosts have fairly high melee defense. I want some data on them before i draw a final conclusion on baxe vs prom 2h.

There are good reasons to use the primal battle axe. making CSB switching easier is not one of them. If you have trouble switching from primal 2h to CSB + magic autocast + blazer ring still. I recommend you stay with 2H, to force yourself to become a quicker clicker.

that's actually a reason for you to keep 2h(you may not understand why, but it's not really important). Damnit xpx, why must you say these things in public without talking to us about it. You keep missing out on discussions we have. DGS opinions on weapons binds changed about a day before you made that post. You should probably speak to obtaurian to get an update.

You need to cannon to get the best kill rates. What you actually want to do is use the temple of light area, highlighted in axemanjack's slayer guide. The trick is to use a low population world, since it's single combat and you actually don't want the dark beasts respawning too quickly.

Perhaps dungeoneering is not suited to you then. even with better teams, a floor should take about 30 mins. You need to be able to sit down for periods that long without distraction.

Duradel has the advantage of less task variety. But this is offset by fewer good effigy dropping tasks from my understanding. and fewer slayer points per task, means you can't skip as many tasks.