I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR. Nice flame bait :thumbup: 1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes: 2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz) Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore. You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame: As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though. so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :) and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........ but hey, thanks for proving my point. and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub: Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump. Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll. When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn. And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved. also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :) I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :) At least we dont spam on w141 :thumbup: