SirIzenhime

[/hide] *waits for Shady to troll with more opinions which he calls facts.* >.> Thus why I put it biiiiig letters that it was all opinion. A bit off topic, but I hope that you all can try to at least respect each other on their opinion of the matter, rather than insisting that each other are wrong. You can agree to disagree, but don't go saying "OMG YOUR OPINION IS INVALID." :| You do realize that's exactly what shady has been doing this whole thread.....right?

Zspear is FAR more usefull then the SS is, and ever will be. The SS is honestly an overrated item, even before rapier came out. The real efficient players used a Whip on controlled before the rapier. It was only ever good at Waterfiends, and the difference between Spear and SS there is like..a few minutes saved per hour, if even that. It honestly surprises me that the Z spear isn't worth more then the SS.

don't forget the KQ :P

[hide] [/hide] *waits for Shady to troll with more opinions which he calls facts.*

That's been said multiple times throughout this thread :unsure:

Comparing two fantasy MMORPG"s is not comparing apples to oranges. One is just poorly designed and the other isn't. Now it's 100% clear to me. You're just trolling... You continue to mix up Opinions with fact Please...for the sake of your time, and ours, get off Runescape related forums.

on your way through, collect every charm and coin drop, loot every chest you find. Also loot any weapon/armour pieces tier 5+, including arrows At the end, alch all the charms and armour/weapons, sell the arrows you won't use. That's basically it. DO NOT sell armour/weapons to the smuggler, you can alch items for X2 of what he buys them for, so it's better to alch them.

Yay, now my dung buddy just needs 90+ crafting :shades:

2 Mithrils and 3 Adamants. Its just a rope-balance away from the rest of the mine. (South East Corner) Can easily mine rocks in the main dungeon then walk over to the guy and note your ores. Yeah not generally worth it and would they even respawn before you mined them all? :mellow: aren;t there like...12 other adamant rocks in that dungeon? It seems like a very logical place to mine addy now with the guy that notes them.

the way he worded it made it seem like he got it first to me. If it's his second weapon, then yea that makes perfect sense, because now he's got the best of both ends for melee weapons.

I already understand that, I just want to know how it performs on the 3 variation of Forgotten warriors.

[hide] You'll get 1 WF task out of maybe 20 tasks, assuming you'd use the rapier on the other 19 tasks, the rapier saves you 57 minutes according to you vs, the 10 minutes the maul saves. The Rapier is FAR better for slayer then maul. It's honestly not even worth mentioning the maul for slayer :unsure: That may be true that maul is specifically not good for slayer, but when you end up with the extra tokens you might as well get it seeing as how 200k tokens will be possible in a few hours with warped floors. [/hide] Yes, it's good to get as a second weapon, but the fact he got the maul first only to serve the purpose of speeding up Waterfiend tasks......

that's actually the kind of answer I wanted :thumbup: It was interesting (in a good way, and probably one of the few times you didn't say "kids" in an annoying way :P)

[hide] LOL. You're seriously calling WoW a grindfest compared to Runescape? Once you hit level 80 (takes about a month) WoW is pure gameplay. Raiding, Battlegrounds, Arena, etc. There's no grinding involved at all. The foundation of Runescape is xp and grinding. You can't even do quests until you reach a pre-requisite grinding amount. And crap PvP? Ya, Runescape's click-and-wait while inventory managing is so much better than WoW's reflex and rotation-based skill. Oh wait, you're a 12 year old. RS kids really shouldn't talk about other MMO's. The fact that you even brought up Silk Road is hilarious as well. (Protip: Silk Road is as much of an MMO as Maple Story and all the other awful f2p games) are you [bleep] kidding me? yes WoW is a grindfest compared to runescape. If i didn't believe it (or if i didn't have multiple level 80 friends from rl) i wouldn't have said so. What is there to do until you reach level 80... hmmm you could go find a necklace for someone (typical blizzard quest)... you could train one of your TWO skills... or you could maybe... GRIND. In runescape there are involved quests, distractions and diversions, a plethora of skills and minigames. yes in runescape you have to meet requirements for a quest. that's why the quest cape is so sought after and level 10's don't go running around with hand cannons, crystal bows, and barrows gloves. it adds a character building dynamic that other games have yet to implement . I'm not alone with praising runescape's PVP. i still cannot fathom the fact that you are actually bashing someone saying why he plays runescape over another game ON A RUNESCAPE FORUM. you're not even being discreet about it. Calling me a 12 year old? I can't even begin to believe your rudeness over a simple opinion. RS "kids". oh yes. i must be one of those because its known that runescape players tend to frequent runescape forums (and god forbid- defend their game?1?!?!). I'm not sure what silk road your "pro"fessional self has claimed to have played, but the one i played as early as '07 and the one i returned to in '09 was an epic, involved, and basically gave the same simple-minded quests as world of warcraft. my friends who played WoW actually said they thought silkroad had BETTER graphics. the theif/merch/hunter pvp system was also extremely unique and could be started (and enjoyed) as early as level 20 (forget spending "a month" for level 80 in other games) LOL. Typical Runescape kid that doesn't know what end-game content is. Once you reach 80, the actual game begins. This means raiding, heroics, battlegrounds, and arena. Pre-80 is where the quest grinding is. Your friends are either fake, or they don't know how to play the game they have subscribed to. Try again moron. Cool story, bro. You're definitely right. Your text > my picture. See, most of you morons play one game and defend it to death. Ive played several different MMO's (10 day free trial doesn't count as playing an MMO btw), including Runescape (since 2003). So before you try to argue your points, make sure you realize that you're just a Runescape fanboy, while i'm just someone that likes good games. And no, Runescape is not a good game, because it's based on clicking and grinding, while WoW is based on real-time combat. There are several downsides to WoW, but arguing that Runescape is a better game because it offers inane non-combat activities like clicking on trees, clicking on ferrets, right clicking on bandits, etc proves what an ignoramus you really are. I'll enjoy the eventual fanboy defense mechanisms. [/hide] Just out of curiosity, why do you hang around RS and related forums if you don't like the game? :unsure: Oh, and be careful with displaying opinions as facts.

You'll get 1 WF task out of maybe 20 tasks, assuming you'd use the rapier on the other 19 tasks, the rapier saves you 57 minutes according to you vs, the 10 minutes the maul saves. The Rapier is FAR better for slayer then maul. It's honestly not even worth mentioning the maul for slayer :unsure:

That's because most RS players are kids and to say otherwise is to disagree with a fact. But to address EVERYONE as being a kid is just following a Stereotype. While it may be true for a large percentage of people, you shouldn't call everyone it. It'd be like walking up to a Black person IRL, whom you've never met before, and handing them a bucket of chicken. (idk, it's late, and I couldn't think of any real legit examples :P)

Does anyone else get as annoyed as I do with how much he uses this word? :unsure: Kids usually don't like being called kids. ;) there's just something about how much you use it that annoys me though, I'm not a kid, nor do I act like one. But you tend you ALWAYS use it when talking about people that play Runescape. It's almost as if you view every RS player as a 'Kid". Whether or not you intend to direct it at everyone, it just always feels like you are when I read your posts.

I looked in AOW for a TD guide, and it seems to be some rather out of date guide :unsure: I don't have much experience with TDs, but what I do know is I have the stats to do them. I have a chaotic Maul and Rapier, which would work better? I don't have void, but I have veracs, bandos, karil and armadyl armor. Do I just keep turmoil on the whole time? When do I use Soul Split for healing? What sort of inventory should I take to get the most of an hour?

That's pretty much exactly what I said, so I don't see the need to insinuate that the way I phrased it wasn't 'intelligent'. I don't think he directed that at you, I think he was just answering the post. :unsure:

I wasn't aiming for floor selection, I find plenty of Forgotten's in the Occult floors :P But have any full tests been done on the Fogotten warriors? They're the only forgotten type in Damonhiem that vary within certain tiers. So the defense of them is largely Dependant on what they're wearing when you fight them. I'd find it slightly surprising to hear that a Rapier couldn't hit well on a primal warrior only wearing platelegs. For those wearing PLatebodies, you'd be insane to not use a good crush style, but for those wearing chains, wouldn't the weapon choice be more broad, and for those only wearing legs, that should cater to the faster weapons with higher DPS, since they don't have much defense, shouldn't it?

Just noticed this a few pages back....whoever said Range is good on gravecreeper....try magic.

the comments about dieing in the LRC are kind of irrelevant if you go to world 84

more people can make them, so more people want them. :thumbup:

Warriors wearing chains or only legs, wouldn't you be better with a rapier? Since they have lower stab/low defence respectively. Rangers and mages are both generally weak to stab/slash, so the rapier performs well on those. The only forgotten class I can see the rapier being bad against are the Forgotten Warriors wearing platebodies.

Waterfiends....yea, that's all I got.