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Meredith, I'm tempted to add "lots of bots" to your nice spreadsheet - but I won't. :P But yeah, the bots and the adbots everywhere is probably the most noticeable thing you'll find.

It is us, the most loyal players, who have spread the game over the years to where it has gotten today. Jagex need to be realize that we are the best PR/marketing strategy for the game - it will never be the gimmicks they're throwing out these days. I personally have gotten 10+ people to sign up for RS and 5+ members. I won't do it anymore. And it certainly is bad PR when a new player logs in for the first time to Lumb, and have 10 ad bots selling gold, and every chicken camped by bots throughout F2P, and 25% of bots named 'llll1ll1iilllil'. I see 1 good way out - becoming a console game - this has worked out save other MMOs - the console version will prob run on its own bot-free servers and the RS name will get at least some people to sign up. Honestly, I don't see much hope for the PC version when it has gotten to this point today. The writer of the 2nd article, arceus is a bit over optimistic. Integrity/morals have never really existed in RS - and it will never solve our huge bot problem. Only a good ol' fashion crime and punishment system will scare some sense into people.

I fixed that for ya. Yes, we all know that the 'game is going downhill' in terms of community, updates, and overall player feelings towards it*, but you didn't offer any proof of that. All you have given proof of is the fact that less and less people are searching for RS on places like Google. I could show you player volume numbers for the last few years (it's in a thread from a monthish back) that shows this game is stronger than ever. Neither of these is definite proof of the true state of the entire game, only aspects of it. If you want that proof, you're going to have to break into Jagex HQ and steal their records because they don't give out detailed analysis of 'state of play' though I'm sure they do have them. *all three of these are debatable depending on playing style and personal preference. I just 'averaged' the general feelings I get from TIF and in-game. I agree with your point - but as you pointed out yourself - there is no better alternative. Alexa rankings is the still gold standard for internet traffic. And to be fair to the other games, they have game clients too that bypass the front page - but at least some people will always visit the front page for news.

I'm sorry to offer you advice this late but hope it'll help. For classes that have really required readings (there is a big diff between required and REALLY required reading), esp those pesky humanities/english classes, library/photocopy the books. Buy used/older edition on AMAZON/half.com as a last resort if you really need a copy. And for most books, you honestly don't. You will find that most profs will give you good enough notes/ppts that you can study off those and books are totally unnecessary. After you're done with the class, DON'T sell it back to the bookstores for pennies - keep it if possible and sell it the next time the class rolls around. And if you can't...dump it on amazon for less - but it will always be more than what the bookstore pays for buyback. I have literally went through the last 2 years of college paying <$300 total in books after reselling.

ROLFMAOOOOOOOOOOO best reply I've seen in a while :D And this thread is just becoming more win than I could have imagined.

Personal opinion and public location....not a great combination :huh: To me, the fact that it was on Youtube makes a huge difference. It's like getting into a fight with someone 2 blocks away from a high school and they suspend you for it. If it's not on their site, it's none of their business. It's different from a fight on the street, since it actually is putting Jagex in a bad light. Of course Jagex deserves the criticism, but they can remove Pmod status for no reason other than I-don't-like-you, since it's their game and they make the rules. So basically, Jagex is (has become) a narcissistic company that hates free speech.

I <3 you too. As much as you'all hate me for this - realize that these are real numbers. The facts. The game is DEFINITELY in decline compared to ther games. But how much of the decline is due to competition/bots/repetitive game mechanics/whatever is up for your interpretation. The point here, don't kill the messenger - get Jagex to fix the damn game if you don't want to see the game die.

This is not true - I can think of/have played sub MMO with $3/month before.

Part 3 in sad graphs to look at series From Alexa our decline is their rise? and blizzard.. nobody likes RSOF... This actually trended?.. For a look at past graphs http://forum.tip.it/topic/289186-two-chilling-graphs-to-look-at/page__p__4755846__hl__graphs__fromsearch__1#entry4755846 http://forum.tip.it/topic/291011-more-sad-graphs-to-look-at/page__p__4793363__hl__graphs__fromsearch__1#entry4793363

I got an iPad2 through school - it is an okay PDF reader with the right app - but overall the machine is hella dissappointing for a $600 machine. You literally cannot download a file without jailbreaking the damn thing (which now it is). Without JB, you're stuck with the limited book options of the crap from Apple's CrapStore - which quite frankly sucks compared to the kindle library. 1 good thing though, the Kindle apps works perfectly on the iPad. So basically you have a kindle if you decide to go for the iPad.

It is a tank - I remember reading about it in 1 of the interviews - I wonder if that got moved to their new mansion.

So..what is Jagex doing with all this extra money they're getting from bots/unbanning cheaters/ornate katana/I pk'ed your mom Tshirt/referra bonus xp/membership loyalty program etc.? Apparently a larger (26K sqft), shinier, mansion. Take a tour below. http://www.stellardawncentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18180 Credit to Pliigi at Stellardawncentral.

It's not even a symbolic victory when the site is still fully active. (and the old address still redirects) this particular gold site supports probably the largest free bot too - [jagexruleviolation].org. With this fight, the gold site is probably getting more traffic. In fact, they're giving away gold as 'celebration' of their new domain -.-

NO. If only real archaeology is as exciting as uncharted/tomb raider.

lol pking for charity :)

Have same exact issue - also fixed by compatibility mode. Minor inconvenience.

Fen Research has apparently celebrated its 1 year anniversary. And yet...all we have is a crap facebook page and a even crappier website. Andrew has been hiring a few coders here and there. I wonder what is he making?

If RSC ever becomes popular again, it would be even more susceptible to bots - Jagex haven't updated the CAPTCHAS of sleeping bags in years and I'm sure they're all cracked by now. This is not to mention that the graphics are incredibly outdated - any crap kiddy MMO these days can rival RSC.

The only reason I ever come back these days is to check on bots - and mostly these trips are depressing. Why most players come back is simple, they have already invested way too much time in THIS game to get into another epic MMO - even though others might be better, more epic, and have much better graphics. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. QUIT NOW! RS is a drug. (to be fair...prob. true for most games out there...)

bumping my compliments - it's really unbelievable that they still have not brought back the rants forum to RSOF. More articulate ranting aside, I just want to say now that Jagex has become an narcissitic [wagon] company who just refuse to even hear criticism. Anyone who toes against their party line is demodded and labeled trolls.

Productivity also include other non-RS activities..you know.

Facebook, craigslist, ebay. You name it, you can find RS gold and account everywhere you look now. The Old Jagex used to at least shut the ebay and criaglist ones down but apparently the new management won't bother with that anymore. With all the jiblix hubbub you would have thought they would've at least cleaned out the ad bots at GE - but NOOO, their advanced macro dectection system isn't even capable of finding ppl type the same thing at superhuman rates over and over again...

... you sound like you have too much time on your hands. Go do something productive.

idk if it's me maturing or what, but I have finally come to see RS as the terrible addiction that everyone else told me for so long. It used to be just a game - until it consumes you. I want to rally up the peeps who have the courage to say the Q word. Even if it's just for now.