lordkrohn1626

*applauds* Wow! dangit you caught us! sigh, well I guess the jig is up fellow Americans, the World has caught us in our massive conspiracy to kill 3,000+ of our own citizens! yup, you're the man, the 9/11 event, (oh by the way it was 4 planes, not 3 Mr. fact gatherer) the Holocaust never happened, the world is truly flat, the Bible is without errors, the Great Flood actually happened, and we never landed on the moon. If you truly believe all that, I'd love to sell you the Eiffel Tower.

They aren't all just "religious sickos." To make the war seem just by dehumanizing the enemy into "sickos" is tempting, but such rationalizations won't actually bring about justice. LK-true, and I wasn't implying the 1.3+ billion Muslims in the world are sickos, just the select few who are fanatical to the degree that they think killing themselves or their children to cast out the disbelievers/"occupiers" is a viable option, brainwashing at it's finest, lifelong religious rhetoric showing it's true power. First of all, most Iraqis don't fall into the group of people who do consider martyrdom to be an ideal to strive for. LK- True, I see them everyday, they smile and shake our hands and thank us for being here, that doesnt sell tv shows though... However, in the groups of Iraqis that do think so, it must be understood where that feeling is coming from (even if, upon analyzing it, we still find it personally revolting, as I do). They think of themselves as being in the midst of a defensive war. Other people came and wreaked havoc and destroyed their way of life (even the same majority who are glad that Saddam is gone, often say they would take him back if it meant they could be rid of their current American oppressors!) LK-yup, that is very disconcerting that they think they would be better off livng the life they had before, where as long as they didnt say anyhting against the governments daily cleansing and assaults on their women and children...they had a sorta stable life, or at least one they were used to living..sad how humans can become comfortable with that kind of travesty. and now they are trying to restore some order to their lives, through the means of temporary disorder to achieve a greater end. As in all war (not that this justifies it, but at least makes it understandable - an important distinction), atrocities occur for the "greater good". LK- I have stood over the bodies of dismembered children in the streets who came out smiling and crying before they blewup....nothing makes that okay. I'm not saying they're valiant; I'm saying they're human. I'm saying that the US army going in and "getting the terrorists" from each of the different groups - Sunni, shiite, kurds - won't actually change anything or improve the situation, because as we kill more people and the situation gets more "dire," more "terrorists" will rise up to take their place, LK-excellent point, and i agree, so what's the answer?..because terrorists are not all that significantly different from the general population (and this is true of terrorists in many various cultures, i.e. in Palestine or in Ireland just as much, according to research done in social psychology and in sociology). If we want to actually make a difference in Iraq, we need to reexamine what we're doign and take a totally different strategy LK-true, the problem is you can not diplomatically work with zealots who view the fact that we try to talk to them as a sign of weakness, and use our rules against us, they only understand one thing, death. LK-answered throughout, and nice to talk with an intelligent person who quantifies his statements.

LK- I chose to answer your insightful points within your thread for ease of reading by our fellow faithful tipiters, I even bolded it for simplicity :)

He has one it's in all his pics... #-o ooopsy, good catch, I am in the Navy and using my ship's sattelite connection for web browsing...can you say slooooooooow? hehe, I get the text to pop up, but the pix take forever. :uhh:

good luck, it shouldnt be too hard. It is my highest non combat stat, which I find humorous as I detest stringing. I never chased levs on fletching, or wc for that matter, they just came along for the ride as I was trainng magic to 94. I cut trees, fletched and made my own nats. Only thing I bought was strings and essence. If you buy the materials, it is a very fast stat to train from what I hear...especially when buying mage logs and fletching/alching them. I rather do the work so I get all the other stats along the way.

yup, good plan, willows is the way to go for levs, get yourself a dragon hatchet. Ihavent played in 6 months, but if i remember right i was getting a load of wilows in draynor village in about 1 minute. gratz and keep going EDIT: I removed my remark, it was late at night, and I thought it was someone posting their first time as a remark against the Original poster when they said "sure". silly me only saw the "1" post count and didnt realize it was the same person as the original poster :wall: #-o to much coffee, not enough sleep :XD: :uhh:

awesome. Think I will stay at my nubby 125, the thought of another 7 million prayer exp to get that last combat level nauseates me. I buried up to lev 68, ectoed to lev 85, then PCed :oops: the last 5 levs to get 125. great job, can't wait to get back stateside so I can get back to working on all of my slacking stats.

well the only reason I am on them as I have been for last 6 months, is because I am deployed, and can not download the game on government computers. Will return home in under 3 months, so will be on RS again then as life permits. Doubt you will see much of me after that on the forums...which I am sure will get lots of applause hehe. Only reason I ever used the forums, was a few ingame friends kept asking me to post on the rate this/achievements forum on how I made combat 100 in 3 months, and 123 in 12 months, so I did. *before you bother to flame me, this was dec04-dec05, thus pre-PC* now like i said im here out of sheer boredom, and this is only RS related site I can download and use.

you are correct, it is very complicated and very hard to deal with, which for some reason all of our bleeding heart media types, and clamoring liberal democrats who scream "retreat!" don't understand. Retreat isn't an option, it would be a death sentence to millions. civil war it might be, but you get classified as a terrorist when you pull up with your family next to some US soldiers, walk away with your wife and leave your kids inside as if it is just a brief shopping stop, then detonate the car in order to kill a few of us. That is not heroic, that is just beyond sick. Now they have a video playing 24/7 over here on all the popular channels where a 4yo girl is singing about wanting to be the next "martyr", and blow herself up, like her mother did.....sick. Don't make them out to be valiant, they are just religious sickos who will kill their own kids in name of their cause.

Well well, I spend a few days assisting some highly deserving bone bags to their predestined meeting with Allah, and look at what crawled out of the weeds to make an uninformed remark about the US military. You should spend some of your computer time researching a subject before you open your pie hole and shove your own foot into it knee deep, like you just did. Since you wanted to classify me as a "dense and ignorant hillbilly" I feel the need to educate you. Now as much as I hate to expound upon my minor achievements, and of course I could be some 55yo fat guy living in a single wide in the middle of God's country, making all this up....but really...why bother...to impresss you? ROFL. :XD: - Bachelor's Degree from University of North Florida in Criminal Justice with a 4.0 GPA (that means straight A's for you dense types) - Registered member of MENSA since 1998 (must have tested and verified IQ over 130) - Senior Chief Petty Officer in the US navy who specializes in blowing crap up...that's watered down enough, anythng more is classified...but either way, trust me, you don't get selected to my rank if you are "dense and ignorant". I could go on and articulate to great length on how wrong you are, but why bother.....the average military member is higher educated and smarter then the average citizen..it is called proactive screening and testing of applicants. Can't say much about the Army, they do have the lowest entry requirements, though still higher then you might think. it seems the only "dense and ignorant" person here is you, or at least that's the perception you so proudly display, with that brilliant reply you made. Now we are not allowed to post personal pix, but here is one of the leadership team, I am one of the in shape caucasian types. Since I didn't say who I am, I havent violated any rules. The khaki colored pants identifies us as senior enlisted or officer, the red jersey as a member of the ordnance team. sorry its a bit big.

Name - Eric Age - 38 Country - USA City/Town - Florida - stationed out of Virginia - deployed to Iraq ATM Sports played/followed - Music Taste - Old rock, house, club, Soul, R&B, depends on mood Some favourite bands - AC/DC, Metallica, DJ Baby Anne, Def Leppard Instruments played - none Belief Inclination - Believe in God, militant anti-religion Hobbies/Other Interests - weight lifting, fitness, competitive shooter Ideal Travel Location - love the Carribean Future Aspirations/Career Aspirations - I am currently being considered for a promotion to Commisioned officer; rank of Chief Warrant Officer grade 2.

0.o Iraq is a nitemare as you call it because we are fighting an "invisible" enemy, we got to check under every robe to see if it is a bad guy or good guy, check every house to find the insurgents....feel free to suit up and join the party, see if you can do better, or you can continue to peck away at your keyboard like a real hero, while ridiculing what real men are doing. Iran would be rather refreshing actually, it is a standard war plan, blow up factories, cut off supply lines, eradicate the enemy in their cute little uniforms.....all done in time for 4th of july. Of course they are going to "confess". This is standard BS the enemy does, even back in vietnam, catch the soldiers, force them to "confess" to "war crimes" then hold a phony court hearing, execute at dawn...or release like in 2004, before the UN decides you aren't playing nice and calls the "world police" (USA) to come drop some toys on your heads. They foolishly think political damage is done, even though the free thinking countries recognize it is BS, the idiot regimes can use it to support their agenda within their countries, or regional support networks. *hands over a light bulb, installs and turns it on* Voila! *pats pockets for crayons....* nope, fresh out, guess this will have to suffice.

well, as a "soldier" in Iraq, let me explain a few things....it's not like a typical war where you have an identifiable enemy, blow up his war machine building factories, cut off his supply lines and then stomp the enemy until they wave a white flag....that's easy and we have done it time and again. This is like trying to kill a huge ant hill with a pair of tweezers. Think of it as a big ant hill with two kinds of ants in it, to the human eye, they look the exact same, and the only way to know who they are, is to pick one up at a time with a pair of tweezers, close examine it, squish it if it is the "bad" ant and let it go if it is the good ant. These "bad" ants are so immersed into the ant hill, that the good ants don't even know who they are, or refuse to point them out if they do know. Now the EASY solution would be to saturate the ant hill with gasoline and insecticide and light it on fire (bomb in real life), but that isn't a great option to the "good" ants, and would be viewed unfavorably by the rest of the ant populations. So we are back to option one, grab a pair of tweezers, and pick up one at a time. We can't go to the taliban HQ building, and kick in the doors and slap them around, there isn't one....we have to go house to house, search for weapons or evidence of insurgency, arrest, detain, question, feed etc the "bad" guys, who of course proclaim they are mistreated, and were simply skipping home from sunday school when we grabbed them. The other option is you have to wait until you are fired upon, in order to identify who the bad guy is, and usually before you can fire back, he scurries into a mosque, where we know they have underground tunnels that lead out into a far away home because we have found them...and we can not enter, or fire upon the sacred building :roll: welcome to our nightmare, meanwhile every left wing piece of crap points to the videos streaming in daily and loudly proclaims how the war is lost and we need to pack up and go home (who cares that pulling out will give hundreds of thousands an instant death sentence from the insurgents), at the same time all the latte sipping suit wearing idiot media narrators sit back and pontificate upon how the war should be fought. Let us do our job, however we got here, we are here now, stop tying our hands behind our backs and let us whoop some butt and get it over with.

im a muslim...and i dont like it when people say that muslims in general are all like the taliban or like al-qaeda, which is not true...you probably didn't mean it that way, but say muslim fundamentalists when i think about it...it makes sense, if America had invaded Japan w/o dropping the atom bomb then it would have led to more casualties anyway...also, w\o that 'test' the Soviets or the US might not have known the extent of the damage and it might have led to a world war 3 with nukes, rather than a cold war okay a couple of things.... 1) I expect you are intelligent enough to understand that I didn't intend to imply ALL muslims are radicals, because they are not. 1.3+ billion muslims in the world, and a very small fraction are radical terrorists. 2) The statement I made that you quoted is fact. You don't see any christians, buddhists, mormons, atheists etc strapping bombs on their chest and running out into the street, you don't see us driving up in a car with our kids, leaving them in a car with a trunk full of explosives, running away and blowing it up for Allah's glory. ...sick thing is rather then stoning the parents, they make them out to be "heroes" of the cause....always seems to be muslims (radical) who think blowing themselves up is the answer....as religious zealots (and every religion has it's sickos....but again, they dont blow themselves up, or their children) they always seem to be one type...muslim based. Every major terrorist attack against america has been done by muslim terrorists.....things that make you go hmmmm i am intelligent enough to understand that : , just it makes me feel better for you to say fundamentalists Knew you were from debating with you in the past, fair enough :) :thumbsup:

im a muslim...and i dont like it when people say that muslims in general are all like the taliban or like al-qaeda, which is not true...you probably didn't mean it that way, but say muslim fundamentalists when i think about it...it makes sense, if America had invaded Japan w/o dropping the atom bomb then it would have led to more casualties anyway...also, w\o that 'test' the Soviets or the US might not have known the extent of the damage and it might have led to a world war 3 with nukes, rather than a cold war okay a couple of things.... 1) I expect you are intelligent enough to understand that I didn't intend to imply ALL muslims are radicals, because they are not. 1.3+ billion muslims in the world, and a very small fraction are radical terrorists. 2) The statement I made that you quoted is fact. You don't see any christians, buddhists, mormons, atheists etc strapping bombs on their chest and running out into the street, you don't see us driving up in a car with our kids, leaving them in a car with a trunk full of explosives, running away and blowing it up for Allah's glory. ...sick thing is rather then stoning the parents, they make them out to be "heroes" of the cause....always seems to be muslims (radical) who think blowing themselves up is the answer....as religious zealots (and every religion has it's sickos....but again, they dont blow themselves up, or their children) they always seem to be one type...muslim based. Every major terrorist attack against america has been done by muslim terrorists.....things that make you go hmmmm i am intelligent enough to understand that : , just it makes me feel better for you to say fundamentalists Knew you were from debating with you in the past, fair enough :) :thumbsup:

im a muslim...and i dont like it when people say that muslims in general are all like the taliban or like al-qaeda, which is not true...you probably didn't mean it that way, but say muslim fundamentalists when i think about it...it makes sense, if America had invaded Japan w/o dropping the atom bomb then it would have led to more casualties anyway...also, w\o that 'test' the Soviets or the US might not have known the extent of the damage and it might have led to a world war 3 with nukes, rather than a cold war okay a couple of things.... 1) I expect you are intelligent enough to understand that I didn't intend to imply ALL muslims are radicals, because they are not. 1.3+ billion muslims in the world, and a very small fraction are radical terrorists. 2) The statement I made that you quoted is fact. You don't see any christians, buddhists, mormons, atheists etc strapping bombs on their chest and running out into the street, you don't see us driving up in a car with our kids, leaving them in a car with a trunk full of explosives, running away and blowing it up for Allah's glory. ...sick thing is rather then stoning the parents, they make them out to be "heroes" of the cause....always seems to be muslims (radical) who think blowing themselves up is the answer....as religious zealots (and every religion has it's sickos....but again, they dont blow themselves up, or their children) they always seem to be one type...muslim based. Every major terrorist attack against america has been done by muslim terrorists.....things that make you go hmmmm

I agree about gloating about it being uncool and immature....but in no way would it have been better to invade...that would have been a long and bloody battle...remember they would fight to the death literally, and had no qualms commiting suicide to kill a few of us..this was before killing yourself to take out one or two enemies became so popular with the muslims *rolls eyes* A complete invasion of Japan would have been long, tedious, expensive and lots of lives lost on both sides.....call me crazy but if i got to choose between losing thousands of my own men, and a long bloody battle, versus drop two bombs and call it a day...im going with option two. Sympathy at the time wasn't very prevalent after they bombed Pearl Harbor on a sunday. It was a tragic and horrifying time for the Japanese citizens, and I feel for all the men, women and children burned to death. Lesson learned? Don't ####ing bomb America. Now all that being said, what country in the entire world would have REBUILT the country and reestablished their industries? Most of the time when a country loses to another in war, they are no longer a country, they get absorbed...didn't happen. Japan didn't become our 53rd state. Now 65 years later, they own Disney and half of America..... bless them for they are smart.

Well said and good on ya, it takes a real man to realize when he has overspoken himself, I have done it and learned from it, as I am sure many have. The sad ones are the ones you can prove wrong until the end of time and they stubbornly refuse to open up their minds and realize they were wrong, or at least concede a point or two. I come across a bit harshly because I feel very strongly about issues I have researched and learned about, or experienced...that and I don't sugar coat anything I say :uhh: We can sit here all day and theorize what would or would not happen if drugs were legalized...we would never truly know until it happens, but I am not holding my breath...but then again, stranger things have happened, like "medical" marijuana stores popping up in droves in california..who would have thought, of course they are getting raided on a daily basis for filling out bogus prescriptions....I give them about a year or so and they will be permanently shutdown...but then again...this is America, and anything can happen, especially with the bleeding heart liberals having the controlling percentage of the Senate and Congress...time will tell I guess..... I do know that alcohol abuse leads to liver and kidney problems...over a LONG period of time, drugs on the other hand are horribly addictive, and can cause a fatal reaction on the first does...or maybe it might take a few years....we have pictures at my sheriff's office that show the same 10 people over 4-5 years of arrest pictures...and they looked like they aged 30 years....common factor? drug abuse. drugs also lead people to do ANYTHING to get them, ad once they lose their job (inevitable) they resort to stealing, then it goes from there......

nothing makes someone do things like drugs...especially heroin and crack...they will do ANYTHING....for a high, regulated or not, they can't hold a job, thus must do crime to get the money for the next rush....

Thanks Gold, see ya in game sometime. Sometimes it feels like I am trying to explain to a group of brain washed children that the world truly is not flat....hehe :XD:

because that is where the bulk of the taliban are...why do you question things that are way above your head.....let the grownups make the big decisions, go pick out a new video game to play....I love your bright uninformed idea about withdraw and there would be no casualties....sigh...when we pulled out in 1990 due to political pressure, the baddies (to simplify) went right back into power and killed hundreds of thousands opf people who stood up to them when we showed up....we foolishly left prematurely and they died...if we pull out this time, the entire region will collapse...hundreds of thousands would be murdered in secular violence...again...without us to maintain some type of basic neutrality and control, the savages would kill, assault women, and slaughter children with wild abandon...they were doing that before we got there...and sadly will probably do it when we leave, but we have to TRY to restore some type of logical uncorrupt government who will not openly commit genocide on a daily basis.....who will maybe uplift women to an equal balance, allow them to go to school and vote etc.....but anyway, I digress...what was I thinking trying to explain reality in a little reply box to a 15 yo whose only opinion is derived from other uninformed sources. *pats on head again, wipes milk off his chin* now go play nice

*pats lil one on the head*.....my drill sergeants? rofl...I am a Senior Chief...E8....there is only one rank higher in the enlisted ranks...just for clarification. You really think we smart bomb mr and mrs mohammad, happy lil couple eating dinner.....you have got to wake up and stop snorting up the media BS....how about this scenario? that innocent lil family is really two radical insurgents who are making explosive vests to put on their own children, who they will coax out into the road to our convoys, and either blow them up via a cell phone signal, or if the kids have been brain washed enough, they will do it themselves.....and don't make that out to be brave and valiant..it is just sick....when they blow themselves up in the markets...they are killing other "innocent families" who are just shopping...we dont bomb markets, or mosques, or schools etc...the insurgents do that all by themselves....those 40,000 innocent iraqis you were foolishly referring to, were killed by other iraqis...not us. Are there casualties of war? absolutely, it isnt a video game over here. Now for the one of British casualties recently, it is a heartbreaking thing, but friendly fire deaths have happened in every war since the beginning of time....they were supposed to have a symbol (classified as to what it is) on their roof, so our jets could recognize them as freindly, they did....but command insisted that there was no friendlies in that area, the pilot asked for confirmation three times, and then command figured the insurgents had figured out another of our ways and had put the symbol on their roof to trick us, and we were given permission for "batteries release" and fired upon it, immediatedly after that the british command decided to come back with "No NO those are our units"...too late now...but of course, from all the hype the pilots were dewinged and face court martial, they will be sacrificed to the political gods. I know because I was the team leader that had to count and verify every single one of our 20MM rounds to verify how many they shot, and what lot # they were from for the investigation....had to do it three times..pain in the rear. Mistakes and miscommunications happen, it is called war. crap happens.

Yes, I am a fully certified police officer in NorthEast Florida, where I work part time as a reserve officer with the Anti-drug task force. I also have a Bachelor's Degree in Criminal Justice, with a minor in criminology. When I retire from the military, I will work full time in that capacity

I'd like to ask you few questions. 1) Saddam's wmp's were not found, yet there was supposed to be solid proof. At least that's what the big audience was told. What happened to your proof or to Saddam's weapons? LK-Yeah it was really hard to move those before we got there, we had physical evidence that weapons were made, just not the weapons themselves...but it doesn't take much for the dissenters to rally behind a conspiracy theory now does it? 2) Which leader, George or Saddam, has started more wars? Which one of them has ruled for a longer period of time? LK-you have got to be kidding me, how about this one...how many people has Saddam and his pyschotic sons killed...and oh by the way, their own people, how many hundreds of thousands did they ethnically cleanse? that had to be the dumbest thing you have ever said. 3) Which country has the most nukes and probably the biggest amounts of biologica weapons? LK-it is called deterrence, look it up. 4) Which country was the first one (and only!) to use nukes against another nation? LK-we did, and in the long run it saved many lives, it shut the war down right then and there...oh by the way, there was this little thing called Attack on Pearl Harbor...remember that? maybe we should have just waved some signs in protest in front of the japanese embassy. 5) How many iraqian civilians have died during the time you have been in Iraq? LK-it's called secular violence, do innocent people die when we drop our laser guided bombs? yup, war isn't a perfect science, we don't hide in mosque though and run out and blow up american, then run back and hide inside again, knowing that the evil americans won't bomb and shoot at their precious religious buildings...they hide behide women and children too..knowing we wont shoot back....we have to fight this war with our hands tied behind our back by political BS, while they behead us on video...yet a couple of our stupid red neck soldiers took some embarrassing pictures and they get put into prison by our government..they get fed special meals, and have full access to their religious beliefs in our detainment center....wonder if we get those priveleges in their camps? I'll answer that for you...no. SO shut it. If you ask opinion, I support Iraq in this war. They are fighting for their freedom, you for their resources. LK-omg you really need to get out more, hop a plane and come over here and see your precious iraqis first hand...since you support them so much, pack up your crap and come on over....we are trying to give them freedom imbecile, set up a working government, build their schools......if we were after their oil, we could just start at one end of the country, and bomb it all flat, set up some gas pumps and call it a day....but we are not, get your head out of the media fed BS and come on over and see for yourself. LK-answered your ridiculous questions

....so convenient isn't it to sit smugly behind your keyboards and clack away about the murderous hateful americans who are the scourge of the world......why don't you break the vacuum off your wagon and get out into the world before you continue your ill-informed rhetoric...form all your opinions from the media BS do you? These "wars" that we (as you falsely claim) americans love to start in foreign countries.....sigh...like we just live to die in foreign countries..oh that's right it is about money *rolls eyes*...you might be able to sit your wagon on your comfy computer chair and look the other way while genocide has killed millions in Africa, look the other way while muslim women can be assaulted by several men, and yet she is the one who gets 80 lashes (front page bahrain paper last week) because she broke the muslim law of allowing herself to be alone with a non family male, thus the assault was her fault...and how the muslim law calls for the oldest brother to kill his own sister if she gets assaulted, because now she is unclean, and the only way to restore honor within the family name, is to kill her...legally...or how about when she is 11 yo and they circumcise her with a pair of scissors (remove [bleep]oris) so that she can never feel desire or pleasure, not her place to feel either, in their views...you may be able to sit back and know that thousands of children are being brainwashed into matrydom and walk out into the road wearing a explosive vest....so they can die and have 72 virgins...*rolls eyes*.... You may be able to do so...but americans can not. You think we do not tire of being the "world police"? You think we do not tire of losing our best and brightest in foreign countries who thumb their noses at the very ones who are trying to save them?....You think we enjoy spending 500 billion on the war in Iraq? That money could have been used building schools, repairing our infrastructure, research on energy options, medical upgrades etc.....hey moron, if we were in Iraq for money, and were the evil people you like to talk about, we would just make it a glass parking lot (which would fix the problem) and set up a gas pump. One of you said we think we should be the nly ones with nuclear weapons....idiotic statement, it is called nuclear deterence...shhhh don't get into that conversation, that's only for the big boys in the world, you know why? because we are stable....korea, Iran are not stable countries, and cannot be allowed to have big boy weapons, because they will probably use them. I would love if we just packed up and went home, worldwide...build up our navy again to 600+ warships to protect us, and let the world go to crap...yup, no more billions spent flying in food to africa, russia, and other starving areas of the world because they have defunct governments rife with corruption......no more hospital ships sitting off coast of africa providing free medical and dental care to thousands...let's just pack up and go home.....no more support of our allies, lets pack up and leave, let them be taken over again by their enemies, who sit back and wait for us to pull out...see how many millions suffer then....how about that? nah, it's much easier to sip a cup of coffee and go on about the evils of americans.....to soak up all that rhetoric poured out by the liberal media groups...yup.....think about if we just pull out...worldwide...think about in 5 years how the world's geography would change.......don't go running to Britan, our stoic allies that I have much respect for, or the Aussies, they can't fight the world baddies without us, feel free to try. we'll just sit back and build a wall between mexico and us, and canada and us and enjoy our bounty...that's what you want right? think, learn, speak