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Pro castlewars isn't fun. As soon as you start playing with the express aim to win all the time it loses it's edge. The best time to play is with a few trusted friends and the ability to improvise and have a laugh while still trying to win, but not taking it too seriously. The worst thing you can do is get involved in the top clans.

I'd say go for it. Bandos can be replaced in almost all cases but at your levels, a dragonfire shield can be very important in many places.

Yeah they will be invited into the game if the teams are imbalanced.

Yeah it will only let somebody in if the team is uneven for that team.

should lure it to aubury's shack/ge :thumbup: Runescape needs more things like that such as more random randoms that can kill.

Moved to H&A There are numerous pictures of Jagex around the internet, including videos on youtube, you just have to look.

Jagex Messages are for your eyes only and should not at any point be posted here.

Two people. Although I'd suggest not playing just for the tickets but instead playing on a mre full world (Not the official worlds though and just getting them slowly but having fun while doing it)

But would still, be utterly pointless to want. Thus, your example is one of the worst I have ever heard on this forum. So, I ask, what are the pro's of adding extremes?

I wasn't aware that the Mahjarrat quest chain was challenging. I did it in a week of casual playing. It also doesn't matter if you have or don't have it, it is the potential to have it that is shown in your combat level. You may be at 128 combat, but you don't have x strength level, you just have the potential to have it.

Why am i being punished for raising my herblore level As it they have not bee allowed in PVP anyway (The two days honestly do not count) There is no punishment. If you trained those levels, you would have known you could not use them in PVP. Nothing is changing, that is what people are arguing for. The wilderness needs fixing, not being made worse. Wrong analogy....taking extremes out of pvp is like driving across the country 10 time. Then picking one bug off the front bumper of the car and saying its clean. Sorry but that example just doesn't work. First off, the 'bug' which I guess you relate to extremes was never there in the first place, so it would be as if you are adding an extra dead bug to the front of your car after arriving. Which would, of course, as adding extremes is, utterly pointless and without reason. If you want to use an example like that, at least do one that works.

I'm sorry to say this but you seem rather like the stereotypical Pker that most people try to get rid of. If a part of the game is broken, the solution is not to make it worse. The solution is also not just to go to a different part of the game.

Pulling out random statistics? You could prove them right by changing your poll to something which reflects it. Or you could prove yourself wrong. 'I pk, have extremes and don't want them' 'I pk, don't have extremes and don't want them' 'I pk, have extremes and do want them' 'I Pk, don't have extremes and do want them' People who don't pk or use the wilderness shouldn't vote because well, it won't have an effect on them whichever way and probably don't know the effect they would have.

So unlucky, both of you.

I would definitely say wait a week. Next week there will be a huge scramble in the wilderness with many new returning players Pking so it would be a good time to come back.

I've merged these two topics. You may think what you have to say is more important than anybody else's view but it isn't, so don't make new topics for things that are already here.

How is it irrelevant? To get armour which can protect you from 30m D claws (which are not the only OP offensive weapon, e.g D bow, AGS, K sword) you need to spend upwards of 600m. That means getting defence is harder than offence, making offence massively overpowered. Adding extremes would do that even more. It would be un-needed.

Did you read what I said? There may be other things than PVP in the wilderness, but PVP has to take priority. If it didn't, we wouldn't be getting the wilderness back in the first place. So a 30m item compared to an item which costs 600m+ is comparable is it? As it has been said, the offence of 30m is much easier to come by than 600m. And that is only one of the very few which can compare to the killing power of many of the OP weapons which are even easier to attain.

The problem is that it's much harder to force the price up with free trade. Prices can eb and flow much more freely, hourly. It will be a strange time indeed. One thing I'm wondering, will the main trade hub stay at the G.e or do you expect people to migrate back to falador?

Is it? As I already pointed out, optimal defense matches optimal offense pretty well. The only reason it's imbalanced is that optimal defense is harder to achieve right now. This could change. In fact, I'm sure it will change, if only because no one is really hunting Nex right now. And of course you have to consider that even if Extremes make it worse, there are benefits. Like I mentioned earlier, I've hunted Chaos Elemental many times with my new potions. It's a boss, and my primary reason for earning Extreme Potions was to use them against bosses. In my case, I like Herblore as a skill, but I know many people who detest it, yet sunk 100M+ into it so they could be more effective against bosses. Now you're telling them, without much of a warning, that one of the bosses is about to become more rewarding, yet you can not use the potions you spend 100M to access against it? When it's part of the reason they sunk that 100M in the first place? Chaos Elemental isn't the only thing in the Wilderness, either. There are plenty of great spots for Slayer that carried the risk of Revenants, and now PKers. But now you're adding additional penalties to using those spots? Why use them then? Why do they even exist? I'm sorry to say, but PVP is the main point of the wilderness. There may well be very good things in the wilderness not related to PVP, but the main point of it is to have some PVP addition. There are also many places outside of the wilderness you can use your extremes, you are by no means being forced to never use them. The chaos elemental is such a limited boss (in that it is rarely killed) that PVP has to take priority over it. I'm sorry to say, but max defence is never going to be balanced with max offence in PVP simply because the risk is made much higher. With Offence, you can use one item, but for defence you need multiple. Because of this, people end up going for offence over defence.

Because (forgive me if I'm wrong) but aren't extremes already disallowed from PVP? Special attacks have always been allowed. Adding extremes would only make things worse, it has no benefit.

It's so unpredictable I actually think it's pointless even trying. There are too many new factors to work into it. For example, How many people are waiting it out? How many people will suddenly flood the market? How many phats are there waiting to be sold? We could have the crash continuing into the 200m range where Phats were a few years back, or they could rebound back up higher than their Current G.E Prices, it's just way too hard to predict. All I hope is that the gap between them is around 50-100m per phat :shades:

It basically comes down to the fact that PVP is currently terribly unbalanced in terms of skill vs luck, DPS vs LP. Do we really want to make it worse? Just because it is already bad doesn't mean it should be made worse.

Could the poll be changed to either 'I have extremes, Pk and don't want them' and ' I have don't have extremes, PK and do want them'? I feel that most pkers who can use them still don't want to use them, where in it seems like those who don't normally pk but have access to them do want them. Wether or not they should be allowed in the wilderness should primarily be up to those who would be using it.

I think you mean your point, not the point. Most of the people want extremes for pvp combat. It's a valid point, but as MH-ing in the wilderness isn't particularly popular, i can't see this being a problem. Oww, i can see the intelligence in your post. Making the wilderness a complete ****shoot of 1 item spec restore guys is clearly what we need. Clearly, all the stupid skillers that think they can pk and having extremes will make them divine in the wilderness. Wake up, extremes wouldn't give an advantage to anyone, but would be a disadvantage to alot of people. Ofc they will be a disadvantage.....someone with 98str is at and disadvantage when fighting someone with 99str. If you are wearing armor and get killed by a one itemer using extremes you deserve to die. C'mon people wake up. Extremes are not overpowering anymore. The people that will be the most dangerous are the more skilled players. You don't get what xpx means. As much as I normally seem to disagree with him, he is right on this one. If Extremes are allowed, those people you want to PK who have all these great items to loot will have them too making yours pointless. The people at a disadvantage will be the lower level people in lower level gear constantly being overpowered by the rich. It will lead to pking being only accessible to those with massive banks and being very discouraging for any newer player. And not overpowering? What has been added to stop them from being so? They allow you to 2 hit many people as it currently stands. If it takes a lot of skill to do that, what is an unskilled player doing? Attacking himself? The more powerful the weapons people have, the less skill it takes to PK. Go back to everybody having dragon weapons and rune armour, fights took skill.