Satenza

Pft, Liverpool still suck. Anway, glad your life is getting back on track :

The Office Christmas Special? :P

Unfortunatley it was the latter.

Haggard already spoke on Gay issues, he said he is having counsiling or something to help him.

Maybe it's a symbol of what Tom Cruise will do to you in this life. :)

Shape of duck foot on my lower left leg. Murdered by a duck, beat that.

Hey this is a fun game!

I have a birth mark in the shape of a duck foot on my lower left leg. Was i murdered by a duck?

But the whole point is that America was not founded on Christian ideals. That points towards it not being. "Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion," There is much debate as to whether that means America must support Christianity but allow other practices, or whether American law should be completley seperate from religion including christianity.

Why were they sounding anti-christian in the quotes i presented? Your guess is as good as mine. They probably saw the values in christian ideals, but in practice knew of it's dangers. They were, on the majority deists, as in they beleived in a God but were not sure of it's specific qualities. Sources Infomation An essay An article Another essay Legal Infomation EDIT: An interesting Page On Quotes From The Founding Fathers

Congress is known to have edited many things in order to pander to the people of the country. That doesn't mean that the founders, themselves were Christians.

It that even possible.

Exams soon then 3 months holiday. Going away with friends for a week. The usual college is over activities :D I just need money now :lol:

+1. :Seriously I hope that but I don't know what the hell to believe in (I'm not catholic by the way). Believe whatever you think best. I personally don't try to change people. (I'm Christian [baptist] btw.) And to Satenza : God didn't kill himself. God's son (Jesus/Christ) let himself be killed so that we would no longer have to sacrifice animals in order to be repented for our sins. Or at least, that's what I was taught. : And yes, I do pray to God to be forgiven of my sins every night. Some Christian Protestant groups think it to be unnecessary, but I do it anyway. Sorry, not killed himself like Jesus did. Killed himself in essance, he is nothing more than a paradox.

I don't even know why we are having this conversation. You already admitted to liking starting arguments and that kind of stuff for fun. I don't know why you flame and i don't really care either. Take it somewhere else because i could not be less interested in you.

To bad theres already been flames there MPC. Looks like someone took your job :cry:

Lets put it like this then, the christian God is infinitley passionate. On earth to beleive in the christian God requires circular logic (i beleive in the Christian God because of the bible, I beleive in the bible because of God). Circular logic is illogical. Therefore any beleif in a specific God requires that person to hold a illogical belief. I don't think a compassionate God would send someone to hell for not believing in illogical assumptions. Thats not very compassionate.

Don't worry Goddess, one day he may learn to seperate personal attacks from debate. Until then, we can probably just ignore him.

I don't know. All i do know is that if the Christian God exists then I am going to heaven. He killed himself on this earth, and has become under observation nothing other than a paradoxical mess. So if he does exist, he did a damn good job of covering his specific existance up. Therefore, since his infinite compassion is an attribute of his, it would not, in any sense be compassionate to send people to an eternity in hell when they have done nothing but use the tools that he himself provided as ways of establishing truth from fiction. From which he failed his own test.

I think he was already accused of that before. Since your a mod, you can see IP's and tell if they are the same people :P

Kant is Locke.

I disagree, what about the guy who said he was getting beaten up by his 2 year old brother.

Lay off the insults, as said this is a happy thread. Probably Locke, assassin, astralinre are the people i like to debate with. And, of course Carlin. I probably forgot a few. Edit: And If i had a God, that God would be Cruiser.

And lets be honest giving constructive critisism was what led to me being fired in the first place. It was hardly a healthy atmosphere to present it in, so even if i didn't do it as much as I maybe have could it wasn't my job, and when it was i got nothing but aggrevation from it.